posted October 14, 2012 05:49 PM            

Wow, someone INVESTED a million in Bain Capital...in 1977 and you have the nerve to call that a political contribution katatonic?

Hahahahaha

Yeah, I saw that katatonic but I didn't think even you would attempt to twist that into a political connection...in the present or a political contribution...in the present.

Oh and John Hanley IS THE FORMER CEO OF MONSANTO..FROM 1977, NOT THE CURRENT CEO OF MONSANTO IN THE PRESENT.

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posted October 14, 2012 06:39 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
we3ll jwhop, i'm not surprised that you continue to make this thread about romney. it is about monsanto. someone mentioned him, someone asked a question, and YOU are running it into the ground.

care to get back on topic or just do your same old treadmill till the end of time?

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posted October 14, 2012 07:01 PM            

for those who missed it, FAIRAQUA brought romney into it. YOU asked if it was true. i posted a piece of info ... but i don't care if romney has HISTORY with them or not.

he will more likely throw the FDA out with the bathwater and then we will have NO federal food standards. poor as the FDA is, it COULD serve a very useful function and SOMETIMES DOES!

but i am not surprised that you take jwhop's view that i am making trouble. like him, you seem to think that anyone you like is incapable of making mistakes, and anyone you don't like is incapable of being right sometimes. and vice versa, anyone who agrees with you about one thing MUST be a great person...

posted October 14, 2012 07:23 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
with all due respect, ami, i started this thread about monsanto, not about romney. the only person making trouble here is jwhop who insists on trying to make it look like i give a rat's arse whether romney has connections to monsanto or not.

for those who missed it, FAIRAQUA brought romney into it. YOU asked if it was true. i posted a piece of info ... but i don't care if romney has HISTORY with them or not.

he will more likely throw the FDA out with the bathwater and then we will have NO federal food standards. poor as the FDA is, it COULD serve a very useful function and SOMETIMES DOES!

but i am not surprised that you take jwhop's view that i am making trouble. like him, you seem to think that anyone you like is incapable of making mistakes, and anyone you don't like is incapable of being right sometimes. and vice versa, anyone who agrees with you about one thing MUST be a great person...

too bad life is not so cut and dried.... and too bad - we almost had a conversation there; until jwhop decided to come in here making it about his same old schtick

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posted October 14, 2012 10:36 PM            

You'll find that in the 5th post on this thread..your post by the way. Perhaps you didn't bother to read it.

It was not a contribution to Romney. It was an investment in Bain Capital and it happened in 1977. I make that to be 35 years ago.

Which is the reason I said The Nation magazine should change their name to The Sewer. They stink.

Ami, chances are that anyone with a mutual fund which holds shares in large cap companies owns shares of Monsanto. Same with employee pension funds. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Romney's blind trust manager doesn't have Romney invested in Monsanto shares as well.

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posted October 15, 2012 11:45 AM            

Unless you bought those shares in an "Initial Public Offering", "IPO" of stock.

Otherwise, you are simply trading shares back and forth between other investors of shares already in the market place which Monsanto doesn't own or control.

It's not as though those outstanding shares of Monsanto are somehow "consumed"...as in consumer products..like clothes or household products and Monsanto gets to produce more as replacements to sell into the market place.

posted October 15, 2012 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Sorry Guys

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Why are you sorry Fairaqua? You didn't do anything wrong. We fight all the time in here

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posted October 15, 2012 02:41 PM            

HOWEVER the people are building up steam to put them in their place. prop 37 in california will probably pass regardless of all the monsanto/dupont money being put into scare tactics against it.

on the other hand, when the vermont legislature tried to regulate GMOS monsanto actually sued them, or threatened to, my memory is a little vague but if anyone has more on that story, please fill in while i look it up...

posted October 15, 2012 04:30 PM            

Any other construction on that subject is Socialist claptrap.

Which is the reason government has no business whatsoever investing money in private enterprise in the private sector. Such intervention distorts the marketplace in attempts to pick winners and make others losers...the O'Bomber Socialist model.

posted October 15, 2012 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
The reason to invest money...and the only reason to invest money is to make a profit.

Any other construction on that subject is Socialist claptrap.

Which is the reason government has no business whatsoever investing money in private enterprise in the private sector. Such intervention distorts the marketplace in attempts to pick winners and make others losers...the O'Bomber Socialist model.

Stay the hell out.

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posted October 16, 2012 01:30 PM            

if your investment is leading to the end of life-supporting food, your profit is devoid of value.

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posted October 17, 2012 01:44 PM            

if nature intended these genes and so forth to be mixed, the seeds would be viable.

and if monsanto thought people would buy the stuff if they knew what was in it they wouldn't be spending so much time and money ensuring people don't know what they are eating.

fortunately cancer is something our bodies take care of most of the time. but the incidences rising along with the flow of gmos into the food chain do seem to correlate.

years ago, half jokingly, i adopted the motto "mutate or die". it seems less and less funny as time goes by, but the chance that enough of us will learn to thrive on these things is also very real.

posted October 17, 2012 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
not only does it affect our bodies directly, but the entire food chain. the bugs that feast on synthetic foods die with poison in their system, to later affect the birds and other animals that eat THEM, and on and on and on.

if nature intended these genes and so forth to be mixed, the seeds would be viable.

and if monsanto thought people would buy the stuff if they knew what was in it they wouldn't be spending so much time and money ensuring people don't know what they are eating.

fortunately cancer is something our bodies take care of most of the time. but the incidences rising along with the flow of gmos into the food chain do seem to correlate.

years ago, half jokingly, i adopted the motto "mutate or die". it seems less and less funny as time goes by, but the chance that enough of us will learn to thrive on these things is also very real.

which in NO WAY EXCUSES the stealth practices of these companies, and i repeat, monsanto are NOT the only ones.

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posted October 17, 2012 03:38 PM            

The object of investing is to make a return on investment...PROFIT, commensurate with the risk to the capital invested.

No wonder leftists always eff economies up when they get control. My god, what idiot would invest a dime if they didn't expect to make a profit on the transaction.

We're not talking about charitable giving here. We're talking about INVESTING.

Oh wait, O'Bomber invested BILLIONS in so called green energy as a payoff for his campaign contributors and they went bankrupt. So O'Bomber invested taxpayer money...not his own money...with no intent for taxpayers to profit but he paid off for his campaign contributors like a slot machine.

Oh, and another O'Bomber Socialist investment scheme just went belly up on Monday after O'Bomber paid off like a slot machine to yet another of his campaign contributors. Yep, A123 filed for bankruptcy. Big Surprise.

Socialist econ 101. We've had enough Socialist bullshiiit.

posted October 18, 2012 09:24 AM            

Go back and read about WHO brought it up to begin with. It was NOT Kat. She was simply posting an ANSWER to the question posed by fairaqua. And if you may have read elsewhere, fairaqua is a Romney supporter.

JEESH.

*End Rant*

posted October 18, 2012 09:50 AM            

Something else ghani, spreading false information about investing and the reason for investing is just as bad.

So yeah, I comment on what's posted and I intend to continue...and I don't give a rat's ass who started the thread, it's the comment content on the thread which deserves comment...and got it.

posted October 18, 2012 01:29 PM            

not interested in romney on this thread, or obama per se.

as far as investing govt money, it has ALWAYS been done. in fact we give money to many businesses that turn around and claim TAX REFUNDS despite their billions in profits. and sometimes, to create something in the future, one has to take a hit.

personally i would not have invested in nazi business, nor - like granpa koch - would i have taken my biz to stalin to help the USSR compete with my own country FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY.

MONSANTO HAS BEEN RECEIVING GOVT AID AND ASSISTANCE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS.
THIS IS NOT A PARTY POLITICAL DISCUSSION EXCEPT THAT IT POINTS OUT THAT MONSANTO HAS A CARTE BLANCHE FROM THE US - WHOEVER IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE/CONGRESS - TO DO AS IT LIKES WITH OUR FOOD SUPPLY.

i would have thought you would object to this corporate welfare at LEAST as much as you object to helping people survive when the rug is pulled out from under them!

posted October 18, 2012 02:25 PM            

Maybe..for once...you should try reading the articles you post here, before posting them.

It was you katatonic who posted the article accusing Romney of receiving a 1 million dollar contribution from Monsanto. That article also suggested it should be "INVESTIGATED".

YOU took this thread political katatonic and don't even try to deny it. I don't care what you say your intent was. In my opinion, you saw an opportunity to tar Mitt Romney and you jumped on it..intentionally.