posted October 18, 2012 07:19 PM            

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And there's no justification for O'Bomber running a White House that's a hostile workplace for women in his administration. None whatsoever...and especially after all the crowing the Marxist clown has done and is doing about how wonderful he is for women.

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He's not. I illustrated that in my last post. This willful ignorance towards reality is disconcerting to say the least.

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You'd know that if you didn't have your head so far up your butt you can't see daylight.

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posted October 18, 2012 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You are SUCH A SHEEP, AG.

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a sheep is someone who is blinded by the farce of the 2 party system we call a democracy. you keep using this term erroneously

posted October 18, 2012 08:33 PM            

That is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard.

To me, only a sheep would jump on that bandwagon.

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posted October 18, 2012 11:27 PM            

But, the US is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy and that republican form of government is guaranteed to the states by the US Constitution.

Acoustic, you have an unbroken string of losing debates. Your consistency is uncanny.

Of course anyone wanting to find out if O'Bomber..or anyone else pays women more or less than what they pay men would use "Average Salaries". Averaging is a great technique for comparing women and men's salaries across a broad range of jobs.

Now if you're trying to make the point that O'Bomber pays men more because he hires mem for the high paying plum jobs and holds women down by hiring women for the lower paying drudge work jobs, then acoustic you go right ahead. But that's an even worse problem for O'Bomber, if true.

What is true is that O'Bomber pays women less than men and has a pattern of doing so.

Let's go right to the sources who know what it's like for women to work for O'Bomber; shall we?

Anita Dunn, O'Bomber's former White House Communications Director: The White House is the legal definition of a HOSTILE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT FOR WOMEN

Christine Romer, Head of O'Bomber's Council of Economic Advisers: I FELT LIKE A PIECE OF MEAT

So acoustic, you lose again. Maybe one day you'll learn to pick your battles more carefully.

Ummm, on the issue of "binders", you usual suspects don't know it because you don't get out much but MOST Americans are laughing at O'Bomber and his brain dead crew for even trying to make a political issue out of this.
But desperate people do crazy things and O'Bomber is trying to revive the "war on women" narrative because even women are deserting him in droves.

In fact, a recent poll found women likely voters are about equally divided between Romney and O'Bomber. That's a hell of a drop in support among women for O'Bomber.

"The USA TODAY findings are consistent with a nationwide Pew Research Center Poll taken after the first presidential debate and released last week. Obama's 18-point lead among women in mid-September evaporated in Pew's October survey, showing him tied 47%-47% with Romney among female likely voters."

And in the swing states, women likely voters will probably decide the election for Romney.

In the swing states, the power of women
A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of the Swing States shows Mitt Romney with a lead among likely voters as he strengthens his standing with women in the nation's top battlegrounds.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states-poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/

posted October 19, 2012 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
You can mistakenly call the US system of government a democracy if you wish mercuranian.

But, the US is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy and that republican form of government is guaranteed to the states by the US Constitution.

Acoustic, you have an unbroken string of losing debates. Your consistency is uncanny.

Of course anyone wanting to find out if O'Bomber..or anyone else pays women more or less than what they pay men would use "Average Salaries". Averaging is a great technique for comparing women and men's salaries across a broad range of jobs.

Now if you're trying to make the point that O'Bomber pays men more because he hires mem for the high paying plum jobs and holds women down by hiring women for the lower paying drudge work jobs, then acoustic you go right ahead. But that's an even worse problem for O'Bomber, if true.

What is true is that O'Bomber pays women less than men and has a pattern of doing so.

Let's go right to the sources who know what it's like for women to work for O'Bomber; shall we?

Anita Dunn, O'Bomber's former White House Communications Director: The White House is the legal definition of a [b]HOSTILE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT FOR WOMEN

Christine Romer, Head of O'Bomber's Council of Economic Advisers: I FELT LIKE A PIECE OF MEAT

So acoustic, you lose again. Maybe one day you'll learn to pick your battles more carefully.

Ummm, on the issue of "binders", you usual suspects don't know it because you don't get out much but MOST Americans are laughing at O'Bomber and his brain dead crew for even trying to make a political issue out of this.
But desperate people do crazy things and O'Bomber is trying to revive the "war on women" narrative because even women are deserting him in droves.

In fact, a recent poll found women likely voters are about equally divided between Romney and O'Bomber. That's a hell of a drop in support among women for O'Bomber.

"The USA TODAY findings are consistent with a nationwide Pew Research Center Poll taken after the first presidential debate and released last week. Obama's 18-point lead among women in mid-September evaporated in Pew's October survey, showing him tied 47%-47% with Romney among female likely voters."

And in the swing states, women likely voters will probably decide the election for Romney.

In the swing states, the power of women
A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of the Swing States shows Mitt Romney with a lead among likely voters as he strengthens his standing with women in the nation's top battlegrounds.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/15/swing-states -poll-women-voters-romney-obama/1634791/

Which all leads to the fact that O'Bomber's manufactured lies about Romney's war on women didn't work. And trying to reignite it with bullshiiit like "binders" is simply laughable.[/B]

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Great info. AG, the STUDENT should learn when the TEACHER teaches

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posted October 19, 2012 10:44 AM            

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Originally posted by mercuranian:
the republican party is followed by 1/2 of "the crowd"

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Not really. One has to make a choice between worse and worser. O'Bomber is worser times a million, billion, godzillion

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posted October 19, 2012 11:18 AM            

Jwhop, there literally is no way for you to win a debate on gender pay in the White House. I've already explained it to you in the most logical way possible:

Three Men:
Department head makes $80k/year
Manager makes $60k/year
Underling makes $40k/year

Four Women:
Manager makes (same as above) 60k/year
Underling makes (same as above) $40k/year
Underling makes (same as above) $40k/year
Underling makes (same as above) $40k/year

The men make a total of $180k combined. The women also make a total of $180k combined. However, because the men's total is only divided amongst three men the median salary for the males is $60k/year. Meanwhile, the women's $180k is divided by four women, giving a mean salary of $45k/year.

More women making exactly the same pay as their male counterparts, and yet their "mean annual salary" is less. This remains true if you drop the male department head down to management-level pay, too. Simply by virtue of there being less men. (So, no, Jwhop, it's not contingent upon there being more men in higher paying offices. Nice try at spinning. )

Reposting out-of-context quotes from White House staffers doesn't work either. I've already refuted that one in this very thread. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/frict ion-over-womens-role-in-obama-white-house-was-intense/2011/09/19/gIQA9OUygK_story.html

posted October 19, 2012 02:34 PM            

it's only over when it's over. if i were obama i would be personally relieved if romney won. that 6th house sun (as opposed to romney's 10th house boss complex) says it all about different goals.

posted October 19, 2012 03:11 PM            

In fact, where did any of your numbers come from acoustic. Who says, acoustic. What's your source for those numbers acoustic? Hmmm?

Anita Dunn and Christine Romer said what they said. I don't give a rat's ass that the Washington Post...or you...are trying to cover O'Bomber's ass for running a "Hostile Workplace Environment for Women" in the White House.

But what's this? MSNBC, the failing cable news network trying to carry the water for O'Bomber's failing presidency and failing campaign pays women up to 14 times less than men doing the same job. Hahaha, and this is the same news network...in name only..which is trying to revive O'Bomber's failed "war on women" narrative too.

Talk about hypocrisy! But that's leftists for you. Can't trust a thing they say. Nothing!

MSNBC Host 'Lucky' to Get Paid Half as Much as Her Male Co-Host
12:10 PM, Oct 19, 2012
DANIEL HALPER

This morning, as MSNBC's Morning Joe came to an end, co-host Mika Brzezinski had some praise for colleagues and the company she works for. "We've been talking a lot this week about women and equal pay and all these issues," she said. "I have to say, in all seriousness, I'm very lucky to be working with you [co-host Joe Scarborough] and for a company [MSNBC] who has actually dealt with this problem transparently."

Which basically amounts to Brzezinski saying that she is "lucky" to get paid half as much as Joe Scarborough.

After all, according to the Daily Beast (whose editor, Tina Brown, is a frequent guest on the show), Scarborough makes a cool $4 million per year, while Brzezinski's salary is half as much, coming in at $2 million per year.

Brzezinski's colleague Andrea Mitchell made this point on air yesterday--that pay disparity exists at MSNBC. Politico reports:

During an interview Thursday, Mitt Romney senior adviser Barbara Comstock told Andrea Mitchell that “we know here at MSNBC the guys get paid more" — and the MSNBC host replied, “We certainly do.”

For Brzezinski's part, it's more than a bit odd that she would play down the problems at MSNBC now.

After all, her public dispute with MSNBC about pay equity has been well known. In fact, she's made it herself on her own show.

"We make less than our male counterparts," said Brzezinski last year. "I found out on this show that I made a lot less than Joe. 14 times less."

And while he was coming from primetime and he was worth a lot more, he's also the creator of the show, I was certainly not 14 times less worth than him. And it was my fault ultimately that I was in that position because I accepted a deal that wasn't right for me. And I didn't have the perception and confidence in myself to communicate that effectively. It took four tries with MSNBC president Phil Griffin who is, you know, a tough manager but doing the right thing for his company to get it right for myself.

Brzezinski says she almost left MSNBC over the pay disparity problem. And she wrote a book about overcoming gender discrimination in the workplace (though, again, she still reportedly makes half as much as her male counterpart).

But in an election year, perhaps playing down pay disparity at a liberal institution by extension makes liberal politicians look better. And Brzezinski's preference for Obama is beyond well established.

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Anita Dunn and Christine Romer said what they said. I don't give a rat's ass that the Washington Post...or you...are trying to cover O'Bomber's ass for running a "Hostile Workplace Environment for Women" in the White House.

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posted October 19, 2012 05:29 PM            

He tried making a point (which sounde like comeplete b.s.) by stressing that he wanted women... Does that mean he's gender profiling? He said himself that those men were qualified but instead, he opted for finding women... The question was about equal pay, not about hiring as women as opposed to men.

posted October 19, 2012 05:33 PM            

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With regard to "binders," I can't help but notice just how upset the Conservatives here seem to be about it. I can't help but notice how much they're attempting to minimize it. It's almost as if Mitt Romney said, "Lock box," or something.

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It is Stooopid. That is why we are minimizing it

I have binders for my Astro info. What does that make me?

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posted October 19, 2012 08:16 PM            

Randall
Jwhop
AG
Doomlord
Node-y
Ian

ETC

OOPS, I hate men

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posted October 19, 2012 08:42 PM            

it was a STOOPID REMARK THAT IS WHY IT HAS CAUSED SUCH HILARITY. get over it.

it wouldn't have been so STOOPID without the rest of his ridiculously condescending rant. how you can latch on to jwhop's half of some comments that said exactly the opposite of what he's pushing i don't know.

posted October 19, 2012 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
their NAMES are in your binders. they are not.

it was a STOOPID REMARK THAT IS WHY IT HAS CAUSED SUCH HILARITY. get over it.

it wouldn't have been so STOOPID without the rest of his ridiculously condescending rant. how you can latch on to jwhop's half of some comments that said exactly the opposite of what he's pushing i don't know.

perhaps you made up your mind that sexism is a fantasy and you don't want to hear anything that might alter that decision, like most of your positions as expressed here?

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HA That made no sense. I will put you in the binder with Node-y.

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posted October 19, 2012 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
i wouldn't fit in your binder. nuff said

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Do you have weight issues

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posted October 19, 2012 09:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you have weight issues

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Lets let the personal issue drop please.

posted October 19, 2012 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Lets let the personal issue drop please.

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I am joking around, Juni, as everyone does. Thank you very much!

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