posted October 18, 2012 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Honestly, no. I can reply to anyone I please.
Why don;t you take your own advice?

Just because you don;t like to be correct is not my problem. Sorry.

Honestly, I don;t think you need to talk down to people, as if you know so much about politics, and everyone disagreeing with you are poor lost sheep.

Maybe just maybe they are far more informed and educated.

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Oh, but SO smart, you are! I mean, GENIUS!!!! I can't wait to hear about all of the illegal immigrants and how they all just flocked to sign up for your farmer's waiting list to work for oh, less than $3.00 an hour. What you're suggesting is different from what's happening now, how? Because it'd be regulated? Where you'd come up with your genius idea? Cornell? No, wait... It must've been harvard! You went to harvard business school, didn't you!?

Your plan for seasonal immigrant workers is inane (to put it lightly). If anyone were to take it seriously, not only would our money just drain away to the southern part of the north american continent, but it'd probably require a great deal of our southwestern population to work at your mexican version of the berlin wall doing close to absolutely NOTHING!!!!! It's spending on par with what the military is to the economy and will not bring in a profit- even if you charged all of the illegals application fees, their peso is worth not even a dime of what we know in this country and wouldn't even begin to pay for the wall you're planning to erect!

I'd love to hear all about how they will be here for an entire season and manage to live on American soil and keep up with the cost of living on a wage that isn't even chump change to those in poverty. Are you familiar with the term "ghetto"?

None of those will resolve to living a life of crime, Nope!

Maybe once you wipe off the "fungus" that's attached to some part and rotting your brain, i'd love to hear your perspective once you show to me or anyone else that sarah palin and john mccain in office would've been the better qualified candidates... Please, by all means... Exercise some of your "smart" and show us all how you'd be the best person to run the country, even or if not, be an advisor to the president, himself.

If you believe i'm talking down to you, maybe it's because you're internally insecure about not being qualified to even have ANY discussion with me.

And i'm being nice when i say that because there are a million more different ways that i'd gladly tell you how many times over you're a smart & competetent individual.

posted October 18, 2012 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
everybody PLEASE keep it civil!

we dont need global unity 3.0 here

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Moon and Mars are transiting Sagittarius.

I just never thought i'd see the day.

Someone finally conjured up the thought of legalizing a form of slavery but only that the slaves wouldn't be owned this time around... That model is far too old fashioned. These slaves.. Why, these slaves are modern!

They'd be leased!

I always did feel that the human trafficking sector was what was keeping our economy behind...

An untapped resource, i always said!

I was just talking to a friend of mine about this the other day and i said exactly this:

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Gah, you know what this country needs? Some good, old-fashioned child labour! That what it is...

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It's the only thing that will give this economy the kick that it needs!

That oughta get the ball rolling..

Those immigrants, you know? Ya gotta get em while they're young! While they're fresh and still open to learn... Start em off with some good work ethic! REALLY maximize our profit based on their output potential.

Maybe i'm just too much of a humanitarian or a philathropist, even. Leave it to me to always think about the little people.

Well, anyway, i'm off... I bought all of these clothes that were made in bangladesh (and we all know their workmanship is good but it is no Italy!) and if i wait too long to wash a few items, i'll never see the end of it.

posted October 18, 2012 07:14 PM            

1. Slavery:

- Do you think that by having people live in the shadows helps prevent crime and slavery?

- Do you think that they aren;t being treated as slaves in the current situation?

- Do you think that people who follow the law and have to be forced to pay for something or someone who is above that same law is a form of slavery? I suppose you don;t think that the citizens and the people working hard and honestly in their lives *deserve* any of what they earned. They should give it up to people, who break laws because well that;s the American thing to do? Help others but not your own family. Yup

2. If you feel so strongly about their rights why don;t you work to support them? Go to Mexico or where you like and donate your time and resources. Who are you to tell anyone they should give up their resources for people who are not even LEGALLY here?

3. People work hard and earn their lifestyle.

- It should not be a handout.

4. My parents came from a third world country and have worked every single day of their lives and still work so hard. They have never broken the laws here nor do they ever intend to. They have respect and carry this country in their hearts.

I have lived in a third world country for 5+ years and donated my time to them.

- So don;t tell me that I have no idea what it;s like to be in a third world country.

By allowing this to happen and encouraging it, *YOU* are the one for slavery. If you even registered what I said about the seasonal work program you would have realized that it was to prevent grueling circumstances and for those people to not have to endure horrid situations imposed on them by the farm owners. But....that would require someone to read and comprehend. Sorry I guess the transits aren;t working well for you today. Maybe you should try rereading it tom.

posted October 18, 2012 07:20 PM            

If he said the things that you're saying, right this very second... they would've all gotten over their differences; they'd have all gotten together and lynched him anyway.

posted October 18, 2012 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
You know what i was just thinking about, Dreaming111? Martin Luther King... If he were to have spoken the words that you have written here today that day when he gave his infamous speech on Capitol Hill, i think that ALL people; black, white, christian, muslim, or even the mixtured.. I think they all would've come together and held hands and i believe that they would've all overlooked the fact that dr.king was black.. They would've intently listened to him replace his I Have a Dream speech with the thoughts running through your head right this second.. And after he was finished, i don't think that his skin color would've been of any importance.

If he said the things that you're saying, right this very second... they would've all gotten over their differences; they'd have all gotten together and lynched him, anyway.

Get a new screen name.

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As for Dr. King, we *are* created equal and everyone has the right to make choices. When did anyine say that we aren;t create equal? yet if you make silly choices, then it is your right..no your duty to deal with the mess you made. End of story.

If you even read what I wrote I said that if there were honest, educated Mexicans then they would be an asset to our society. This was never about race. But again you can;t grasp the obvious and have nothing to argue about. I think it;s because you want so badly to argue with me you will make almost anything up just to have a moment to spare. lol. Why don;t you tell everyone that I just came over and kicked your dog? Or that I posted signs on your door? I mean, I honestly think that you would love to make up more nonsense. Why not get creative about it then?

I even said that the illegals and the method by which they come here and are harbored here is unfair to people in Fiji, Japan, and Somalia. How am I for one race over another? I think, that you are being one-sided in this and are unfair to other people and other races. Maybe you have relatives or are in that situation currently so that;s why you think that illegals ought to have an advantage. Uh oh the cat is out of the bag huh?

Also, I said that my parents came from a third world country, so.....this was NEVER about RACE.

Now, back to you. If you don;t understand something ask. If you, don;t get something look it up. Just if you don;t understand soemthing, don;t act like you do. You make yourself look foolish.

posted October 19, 2012 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:

- Prostitution

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Although it's definitely not something that I'd ever partake in, even if it was legal...I will honestly never understand why people make such a big deal about prostitution. People glamorize casual sex so much these days, yet prostitution is still illegal? At least they are doing it to earn some money.

You hear all of these people preaching about how people are jobless because they are "lazy" and blah blah blah, so why keep prostitution illegal? If someone wants to pay someone to sleep with them, that's their business, as long as it's between two consenting adults, the government shouldn't get to have a say on that. You gotta do what you gotta do.

posted October 19, 2012 02:27 PM            

eric francis has just posted a little precis of the two men's charts with some interesting ideas...in fact very similar to my own...note his take on the pressures on obama vs the disconnect of romney.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-francis/natal-horoscopes-obama-romney_b_1974189.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news#comments

i have always felt that obama treads very warily knowing there is a target on his forehead, so to speak.

i don't think mitt understands this dynamic, or maybe he is just like dubuya, happy to go along, wreak havoc and pick up the profits.

but despite the electoral college, the popular vote does matter. it can be monkeyed with, intimidated and suppressed, but if you don't vote, don't complain because you did NOTHING about the situation!

posted October 19, 2012 02:39 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
not sure whose chart has saturn conj moon but it isn't obama's...in any form of astrology i know of. he has moon in gemini (5th hs?) and saturn in cap(12th)...???

eric francis has just posted a little precis of the two men's charts with some interesting ideas...in fact very similar to my own...note his take on the pressures on obama vs the disconnect of romney.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-francis/natal-horosco pes-obama-romney_b_1974189.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news#comments

i have always felt that obama treads very warily knowing there is a target on his forehead, so to speak.

i don't think mitt understands this dynamic, or maybe he is just like dubuya, happy to go along, wreak havoc and pick up the profits.

but despite the electoral college, the popular vote does matter. it can be monkeyed with, intimidated and suppressed, but if you don't vote, don't complain because you did NOTHING about the situation!

and take a close look at the congressional/senate candidates and MOST OF ALL YOUR LOCAL FOLK, they make more difference than the president in most cases!

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posted October 19, 2012 03:36 PM            

Towards the end of the second debate he actually shined with what he knows when it comes to business but then threw it just the same by saying "government does not create jobs" after running on saying that he'll create those same jobs....

He's lost credibility. We've heard nothing but "jobs" for YEARS!! He would've had my vote had he had something else to run on other than what's in focus because after that gets sorted.. Then what?

He's bluffing.

None of it is genuine.

I'm not changing my mind or saying that i am regretting the decision of voting for obama; i'm saying that romney disappointed me, though... After a certain point, i believe he would've been smart to STOP being a politician, stressing certain things SO much and start being a person. People already like certain things about him an even i started off with a leaning towards him but he is trying TOO hard that i see it as SO fake and full of it.

Obama's south node in Aquarius almost guarantees that he can mingle and be normal.

He carries himself and talks as if he's got in made and because of it, i think he does.

Romney has given Obama a run for his money because Obama doesn't have the business background Romney does but i think Obama has almost made sure that if he doesn't know of it, he has someone around him who does...

He's confident and he's sure about it.

posted October 19, 2012 09:34 PM            

Romney has said none of that.

Romney is a stand up man who has devoted his life to helping others. He has been doing mission trips all over the world for 40+ years, donates millions and millions of dollars to not only his church but other charities, over paid in taxes, when he was govoner of mass. he did so without pay so his tax payers were not burdened further..

When the Olympics was on the verge of collapse due to corruption and fincial reasons he came in and turned it around!

When Romney ran for gov. he was approached by a womens group asking for help so women can have a chance at the jobs they deserved. Seeing that the female jobs were lacking he agreed to hire if he won, which he did win. Thus the binders full of women (resumes) was given to him.. Remember it was about 10 years ago, technology was not where it is today..
Obama does not have many women in office and they are payed A LOT LESS.

Romney wants to promote drilling on our lands and extend the pipes. Obama purposly pulled finances from the oil industry to put towards green energy. BILLIONS of dollars wasted on ideas that were too far ahead of their time. I am all for green energy, but we are not there yet. I'm sorry, but it would be best for a private company to find investors on their own and create and idea before the government steps in. Unfortunantly, most of Obamas green plants have gone belly up.
America just does not have the money to be throwing around like that..
...and just a little more tid bit of info...
Obamas wind farms are seeking permission to legally kill Bald Eagles. The wnd farms alone have killed over 50% of nesting eagles and over 500,000 birds alone. Oil rigs have killed about 85 (and that number is not in the thousands). Oil companies have to pay :7/3 fines for these birds.. the wind farms? Not a cent.

I would also like to know how you justify Obamas actions towards Benghazi (and please tell me y'all have SOME idea about it). The embassy was attacked back in June. They asked for protection time after time and were denied time after time, eventually the white house they just stopped responding. Chris stevens even asked for more security the night before they were attacked.. obama missed over 1/2 of the security briefings over his term.
Unacceptable.
But this is just another bump in the road, right?

My famlies livelyhood depends on a small business (the SOs family business) which in turn relies on a strong economy. This economy has been idle for years. Many comapnies like them have shut down. Fuel prices are driving people out of business if lack of demand doesn't first..

Then on top of that they have to worry about obamacare?!
Extra taxes?

Does no body see anything wrong with some of the highest unemployment rates our country has ever seen?
Does no body see anything wrong with almost HALF our country on government assistance?!
And please, please tell me what Obama's plan is to fix all this.

While he's been out hanging out with beyonce and jayz and playing over 100 games of golf, we as americans can't hardley afford weekend getaways 100 miles away!

I tried Obama's change (actually, it was forceed on me)
I'm ready for some new ideas.

posted October 19, 2012 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:

If you believe i'm talking down to you, maybe it's because you're internally insecure about not being qualified to even have ANY discussion with me.

And i'm being nice when i say that because there are a million more different ways that i'd gladly tell you how many times over you're a smart & competetent individual.

I'm gonna go now and watch my dog lick his anus. That seems to require more brain power and is more engaging than actually taking the time to have a reasonable discussion with you (with you being as smart and rational as you are).

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competetent?

posted October 19, 2012 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by C1ND3R:
I just never thought i'd see the day.

Someone finally conjured up the thought of legalizing a form of slavery but only that the slaves wouldn't be owned this time around... That model is far too old fashioned. These slaves.. Why, these slaves are modern!

They'd be leased!

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You are sounding a bit off your rocker.

When did anyone say they were shackled and forced to come here and work for any amount? When did I say 3 dollars?

If they do not like the proposal set to them then they do not need to take up the offer. End of story. There is no slavery to what I proposed. It was all conjured up in your silly little mind. It would be far better than what they would get back home so I would think they would want to take up the offer.

What do you want them to do set up a castle for them? Seriously? While we have vetrans on the streets begging for money, kids in and out of foster care, American citizens that need that extra money to get by or ramp up their resume/ education, you are sitting here saying that people, who steal ought to be pampered. Ridiculous.

What do the other countries ALL over the world do? Mexico in particular....Illegals crossing their borders are tossed in damn acid barrels by the Mexican gangs if they refuse to join gangs. Now if an illegal is caught by the Meican gov they must serve time in jail in addition to paying the gov. Talk about hypocrisy.

If our country could stop wasting time on the whole illegal business, then maybe just maybe we could reinvest our time, effort and other resources in OUR OWN people. How the heck is that such a friggin bad idea?

It baffles me how people have this twisted, perverted mindset. Actually it amuses me. Are we paying for someone like you? Maybe who knows? That would be pretty sad that we pay for people, who would rather see this nation spiral downward rather than progress upward. But whatever....not like it would make any sense to you no matter how someone spells it out for you. Maybe you would better understand basic, logical concepts with pictures.

posted October 19, 2012 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
You say you do not like Romneys plan..
Could you please enlighten me towards Obamas?
Was it not 4 years ago Obama saying that someone running a campain on scare tactics and "the small things" is a man with no ideas?
What is Big Bird? Romnesia? Binders full of women? 47%?
What is this "they're going to put y'all back in chains"? "They've got the bullets pointed at you"? "They are going to take away the medicare system"?

Romney has said none of that.

Romney is a stand up man who has devoted his life to helping others. He has been doing mission trips all over the world for 40+ years, donates millions and millions of dollars to not only his church but other charities, over paid in taxes, when he was govoner of mass. he did so without pay so his tax payers were not burdened further..

When the Olympics was on the verge of collapse due to corruption and fincial reasons he came in and turned it around!

When Romney ran for gov. he was approached by a womens group asking for help so women can have a chance at the jobs they deserved. Seeing that the female jobs were lacking he agreed to hire if he won, which he did win. Thus the binders full of women (resumes) was given to him.. Remember it was about 10 years ago, technology was not where it is today..
Obama does not have many women in office and they are payed A LOT LESS.

Romney wants to promote drilling on our lands and extend the pipes. Obama purposly pulled finances from the oil industry to put towards green energy. BILLIONS of dollars wasted on ideas that were too far ahead of their time. I am all for green energy, but we are not there yet. I'm sorry, but it would be best for a private company to find investors on their own and create and idea before the government steps in. Unfortunantly, most of Obamas green plants have gone belly up.
America just does not have the money to be throwing around like that..
...and just a little more tid bit of info...
Obamas wind farms are seeking permission to legally kill Bald Eagles. The wnd farms alone have killed over 50% of nesting eagles and over 500,000 birds alone. Oil rigs have killed about 85 (and that number is not in the thousands). Oil companies have to pay :7/3 fines for these birds.. the wind farms? Not a cent.

I would also like to know how you justify Obamas actions towards Benghazi (and please tell me y'all have SOME idea about it). The embassy was attacked back in June. They asked for protection time after time and were denied time after time, eventually the white house they just stopped responding. Chris stevens even asked for more security the night before they were attacked.. obama missed over 1/2 of the security briefings over his term.
Unacceptable.
But this is just another bump in the road, right?

My famlies livelyhood depends on a small business (the SOs family business) which in turn relies on a strong economy. This economy has been idle for years. Many comapnies like them have shut down. Fuel prices are driving people out of business if lack of demand doesn't first..

Then on top of that they have to worry about obamacare?!
Extra taxes?

Does no body see anything wrong with some of the highest unemployment rates our country has ever seen?
Does no body see anything wrong with almost HALF our country on government assistance?!
And please, please tell me what Obama's plan is to fix all this.

While he's been out hanging out with beyonce and jayz and playing over 100 games of golf, we as americans can't hardley afford weekend getaways 100 miles away!

I tried Obama's change (actually, it was forceed on me)
I'm ready for some new ideas.

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posted October 20, 2012 12:38 AM            

BRIBES

- Obama took money and support from companies. yes the top 1% he whines about and GAVE them our tax payer dollars in billions on a silver platter.

What happened to that money? Majority and I mean more than 80% of those companies flopped and are bankrupt.

*Who made the decision to invest in those particular companies?

- The people in his cabinet who had connections to those companies decided this.
- Some of those that donated to his campaign in 2008 were PAID off with this money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra

CORRUPTION: Fast and Furious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

LIBYA

- He allowed it to happen! But now he cries crocodile tears for the press and gullible public. He did not give two ***** about anyone there. He reduced the security for OUR people there. He IGNORED their requests. He tried to cover up the whole situation by painting it as some uproar over a ****** youtube video.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/09/top-security-chief-to-testify-on-libya-missteps.html

He is the commander and chief and he did not know about this? Yeah right! All of a sudden it happens on the year of his possible re-election so he hides behind a silly youtube video, as if that was even a good excuse.

Now Hillary is taking the blame...Sure sure....Poor president knew nothing he is pure as ever. Bull.

1. If he knew nothing then that is gross neligence and incompetence.

2. If it was even a the youtube video, why is he apologetic over it? Is a silly youtube video any right to kill some innocent person? I think not. So why is he bowing down to extremist sentiments?

OBAMACARE

Me:Ok so now everyone gets care. Great. I love that idea. How will we pay for it?

Obama: Oh with the money we have in our banks.

Me: What money?

Obama: The money we earn as a nation will partially be diverted to this program.

Me: But arent we in a deficit?

Obama: Yes, so we will borrow some additional money from China.

Me: But doest that mean, China will ask for the following in exchange:
A. Leniency on their currency rating.
B. More leniency on Chinese products to be flooding our country.
C. Higher interest.
D. For us to keep our mouthes shut in regard to their illegal and wrongful foreign affairs. That end up harming different parts of the world.
E. Ignoring their cyber attacks on our government

Obama: Well, I assure you my program will be lovely.

Me: I mean, I like that children til 26 can stay on their parents insurance and that everyone is cared for.

Obama: Glad you agree. Vote me in 2012!

Me: Wait no, but all thes things that you exchange for this program end up hurting us more.

A.
We have less jobs therefore less money to tax. We need more job growth and you wont be able to do that if you tax the job creators or create and atmostphere where they end up moving overseas.

B.
A person by 26 should be able to afford their own insurance. We cant baby people. we need to encourage them to be self sufficient.

C.
The people that end up paying the difference for those that wont or cant pay for their insurance are the ones that can aka ones already responsible enough to have insurance and tax payers. That means their premiums will go up.

D.
Leniency on Chinese currency rating, means that they are seen favorably by businesses. This means more are likely to move to China. That means more doors shut here and more doors open in China. Did you know that China also asks companies to chip in on their intrastructre when moving over?
This leniency on their currency means that more people will lose their jobs and will be forced to live off the governemt whereas before they were self sufficient.

E.
Lots of Chinese produts are not being looked at by the FDA. They come into our market subpar and harm our own people. Why do we need to put our people in such risk? Also they put other businesses with better and safer material out of business because they come in with a low price. Now we have more doors closing and more people out of work.

F.
We dont have enough growth to pay the Chinese back their money or interest. We will be working like their slaves....This is what slavery means.

G.
China is already stepping on everyones feet in the region and we are keeping mum.
Dont you thin we will lose our value in the international community?

H.
They are already putting spies in place in larger companies in California to steal tech info. (Google it.) They have already tried to cyber attack our government. Why are we putting our info at risk? All the money, time and effort we put behind procuring our innovation and research is being stolen within seconds. Why are we tossing our livelihood around this way? Innovation was the reason we were on top and now....we are being stripped bare. Why cant we say anything now and demand the Chinese stop?

Obama: Well I have one hell of a plan. This Obamacare will help everyone. Trust me. And then we will add the illegals to the list of people to help. And with this approach in the next four years just watch we will come out strong and on top. Everyone will be taken care of. There will be job growth. Internationally we will be stronger and number one.

I am looking out for the low and middle class. Do not worry.

Me: Um, by taking their jobs away? By making us less secure and reducing our funds?

Obama: It is those top 1 percent that are our enemies. We need to get them before they ruin this country.

Me: You know, since they earn so much, if **** hits the fan they could just move out of this country. They probably already moved their money elsewhere. Who would you tax if they did that?

Obama: No we wont let that happen that 1%...Grr Bad bad people. We will get em.

Me: But they could just move out. And the poor and middle class would have lost their jobs and now you have no one to tax.

Obama: Dont worry about that. Have faith. I have a plan. Remember I am the man for change. Vote for me 2012!!

posted October 20, 2012 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by earthypisces:
Although it's definitely not something that I'd ever partake in, even if it was legal...I will honestly never understand why people make such a big deal about prostitution. People glamorize casual sex so much these days, yet prostitution is still illegal? At least they are doing it to earn some money.

You hear all of these people preaching about how people are jobless because they are "lazy" and blah blah blah, so why keep prostitution illegal? If someone wants to pay someone to sleep with them, that's their business, as long as it's between two consenting adults, the government shouldn't get to have a say on that. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Okay, I won't go any further than that right now...my Aquarius Mercury is satisfied enough with my brief rant, lol.

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Because you dont want to encourage people to rely on their bodies and all that comes with and is associated with prositution. If you have no skills or are out of work, ask for gov assistance ot go back to school. That is a better option than signing up on craigslist.

I dont glamorize casual r/s. But I suppose you are right. People are doing it anyway.

If you are out of work and you become a prostitute and get AIDs, what is your fall back plan? Ah yes the gov to assist in paying for your expensive medication.

posted October 20, 2012 01:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
If you have no skills or are out of work, ask for gov assistance ot go back to school.

Also when these rings start people get forced into it and even kidnapped. That is why it is never encouraged.

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But you always hear people complaining about people "leaching off of the goverment", and it's not just people who aren't even trying at all that get criticized with that, it goes a lot further.

posted October 20, 2012 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
Romney is a stand up man who has devoted his life to helping others. He has been doing mission trips all over the world for 40+ years, donates millions and millions of dollars to not only his church but other charities, over paid in taxes, when he was govoner of mass. he did so without pay so his tax payers were not burdened further..

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Yep, missions he went on to avoid the draft. I'm from Massachusetts and I can tell you he did not over pay sh## for the sake of Massachusetts residents. He's called a master manipulator! I am also pretty appalled at this thread, in agreement with Pire and others. It's an interesting topic C1ND3R, but politics always brings out the worst in people. On what planet is Romney a descent human being? And Ron Paul a viable candidate for Presidency? Are you kidding me? Oh the malarkey.

posted October 20, 2012 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by fairaqua:
You say you do not like Romneys plan..
Could you please enlighten me towards Obamas?
Was it not 4 years ago Obama saying that someone running a campain on scare tactics and "the small things" is a man with no ideas?
What is Big Bird? Romnesia? Binders full of women? 47%?
What is this "they're going to put y'all back in chains"? "They've got the bullets pointed at you"? "They are going to take away the medicare system"?

Romney has said none of that.

Romney is a stand up man who has devoted his life to helping others. He has been doing mission trips all over the world for 40+ years, donates millions and millions of dollars to not only his church but other charities, over paid in taxes, when he was govoner of mass. he did so without pay so his tax payers were not burdened further..

When the Olympics was on the verge of collapse due to corruption and fincial reasons he came in and turned it around!

When Romney ran for gov. he was approached by a womens group asking for help so women can have a chance at the jobs they deserved. Seeing that the female jobs were lacking he agreed to hire if he won, which he did win. Thus the binders full of women (resumes) was given to him.. Remember it was about 10 years ago, technology was not where it is today..
Obama does not have many women in office and they are payed A LOT LESS.

Romney wants to promote drilling on our lands and extend the pipes. Obama purposly pulled finances from the oil industry to put towards green energy. BILLIONS of dollars wasted on ideas that were too far ahead of their time. I am all for green energy, but we are not there yet. I'm sorry, but it would be best for a private company to find investors on their own and create and idea before the government steps in. Unfortunantly, most of Obamas green plants have gone belly up.
America just does not have the money to be throwing around like that..
...and just a little more tid bit of info...
Obamas wind farms are seeking permission to legally kill Bald Eagles. The wnd farms alone have killed over 50% of nesting eagles and over 500,000 birds alone. Oil rigs have killed about 85 (and that number is not in the thousands). Oil companies have to pay :7/3 fines for these birds.. the wind farms? Not a cent.

I would also like to know how you justify Obamas actions towards Benghazi (and please tell me y'all have SOME idea about it). The embassy was attacked back in June. They asked for protection time after time and were denied time after time, eventually the white house they just stopped responding. Chris stevens even asked for more security the night before they were attacked.. obama missed over 1/2 of the security briefings over his term.
Unacceptable.
But this is just another bump in the road, right?

My famlies livelyhood depends on a small business (the SOs family business) which in turn relies on a strong economy. This economy has been idle for years. Many comapnies like them have shut down. Fuel prices are driving people out of business if lack of demand doesn't first..

Then on top of that they have to worry about obamacare?!
Extra taxes?

Does no body see anything wrong with some of the highest unemployment rates our country has ever seen?
Does no body see anything wrong with almost HALF our country on government assistance?!
And please, please tell me what Obama's plan is to fix all this.

While he's been out hanging out with beyonce and jayz and playing over 100 games of golf, we as americans can't hardley afford weekend getaways 100 miles away!

I tried Obama's change (actually, it was forceed on me)
I'm ready for some new ideas.

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I almost stopped reading once you said "y'all" and "chains"... But, i read on. Your message seems less hostile than maybe another few.

The reason i decided to vote for Obama is because of the transits. I believe romney knows what he's talking about when it comes to making money. He has s-aturn in his third and that's pretty set for business.

What he has that i do not like and i've seen FARRRR too much of, is that mercury square uranus and his mars in pisces.. I know a few mercury in pisces.... I also had the experience of knowing a few mercury/uranus individuals and not a single one of those EVER kept their word.

Keeping one's word, builds belief in the self.. Belief in self, makes for a stronger self esteem... A healthy self esteem breeds confidence and inner security...

A man that does not keep his word, has nothing!

If you actually believe even half of what romney says and you believe he'll follow-up on it, you've got another thing coming. Mercury in Pisces says anything to get the other person what they want to hear.

As for obama, he's actually kept his word. Even if the man is inexperienced, he has hillary and basically, ex president bill clinton working alongside him so he's surrounded by people who are more than qualified and experienced.

Would i prefer having a team of people who know what they're doing in charge or would i prefer a president and a vp with mercury squaring uranus running things? The latter will never keep their word nor will they be consistent. That does not result in strong or steady leadership and if they can't lead, nothing will get done. It's really as simple as it could be put......

As far as romney goes; i have no say as to how obama handled the 4 americans issue but find it slightly amusing that after reading your post, i'm under the impression that you see absolutely nothing wrong or immoral about a man trying to show out the commander in chief....... It doesn't matter, imo, what his personal beliefs or yours are but romney is not president.

He stepped on toes in an attempt to ridicule our current president. Does any of that look good in the grand scheme of things? It's disrespectful, childish and immoral... I'm pretty sure something like that could be considered treason.

The binders full of women remarks i do not find it amusing and i don't see the humor. He admitted to gender profiling; he had an entire stack of qualifications but optednout for seeking women? He said himself that the men were qualified.. Am i supposed to be moved? That a man has yet again filled his cabinet (or office) with "qualified" babes?

Are you familiar with the term filibuster? Because the majority of congress belong to the republican party and if they do not pass what obama puts into motion=nothing being done.... And see, i get that. It's the main reason why i first started off with a leaning towards romney but after two debates, i'm convinced that he's bluffing, a tool, and will say anything to move forward. Not only that, i found him more than disreapectful on many accounts when he begun to interrupt not one, but BOTH of the moderators in the debate.... Obama did some of it, as well but he has no history of acting like a child in the way romney did.

You'd send romney overseas to engage with political leaders and have him talk to them the same way?

He'd go and tell china a few things and cut them off before they get a chance to reply. The man is a loose cannon and will not win any friends because of the way he is. Him not winning friends= it doesn't matter what he does with taxes or healthcare, no friends to trade with will only result in higher prices for things and if he were to say the wrong thing, possibly another war.

Read about as much as you can on his and ryans natal mercury squaring/opposing uranus... While you're doing that, look into mercury in pisces and find out how truthful or consistent either of those things are..

If romney were to get his head blown off, there is NO way that i would look forward to having paul ryan as president. I'm being logican and reasonable.

I would advise you look at things from an independent way and not from what you've been watching on tv or commentaries on youtube.

Critical thinking.

And once you also read on romney's mars in pisces, read about the looooooong transit of neptune making a conjunction to an already confused mars. He has no direction, that man... He'll say anything to get it and once in, he'll expect everyone else to do the work.

posted October 20, 2012 03:38 AM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Yep, missions he went on to avoid the draft. I'm from Massachusetts and I can tell you he did not over pay sh## for the sake of Massachusetts residents. He's called a master manipulator! I am also pretty appalled at this thread, in agreement with Pire and others. It's an interesting topic C1ND3R, but politics always brings out the worst in people. On what planet is Romney a descent human being? And Ron Paul a viable candidate for Presidency? Are you kidding me? Oh the malarkey.

I'm from Massachusetts, born and raised. Romney the robber baron didn't do sh$% here but make very vile and racist comments about common citizens and watch Red Sox games behind the dug out. He signed Romneycare against his better judgement because Massachusetts is a highly democratic state and the educational system was superior way before he came here and it will continue to be so long after he's gone thanks to the efforts of Deval Patrick our current governor and many others. Romney the spoiled snake Plutocrat needs to give up on these delusional political aspirations of his. If there were a king of the phony elite it would be Romney. Congratulations Mittens, because that's the only throne you'll ever get to sit on.

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The guy has south node in sagittarius.... I don't doubt for one second that some of what you're saying is true.

posted October 20, 2012 03:56 AM            

Mercury sqaure or opposing uranus makes a person blunt, stubborn, original in ideas, and at worse fickle.

posted October 20, 2012 04:02 AM            

*He* is the one that will say anything and not mean an ounce of it.