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Randall
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posted February 23, 2013 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meet the Internet Posting Removal Act, an Illinois Bill That'll Make Your Head Spin

By: Josh Wolford | Staff Writer

State lawmakers all across the country busy at work crafting ridiculous, head-spinning laws can take the day off. There is no way they can top this.

A new bill proposed in the Illinois State Senate looks to completely wipe out any form of anonymity on the internet by requiring that the operators of basically any website on the entire internet take down any comment that isn't attached to an IP, address, and real name-verified poster.

It's called the Internet Posting Removal Act and was introduced on February 13th by Illinois General Assembly veteran Ira I. Silverstein [D].

Here's the summary of the bill:
Creates the Internet Posting Removal Act. Provides that a web site administrator shall, upon request, remove any posted comments posted by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate. Effective 90 days after becoming law.
Not wanting to leave any bases uncovered, Silverstein includes that an "Anonymous Poster" means "any individual who posts a message on a web site including social networks, blogs, forums, message boards, or any other discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages."

Silverstein also proposes that "all web site administrators shall have a contact number or e-mail address posted for such removal requests clearly visible in any sections where comments are posted."

Beyond the obvious questions about self-verification of IP addresses (?) and home addresses (wow), the logistics of this thing are mind-boggling at best. Any comment on any site that has commenting? That would not just include sites like CNN.com, Mashable, WebProNews and others. This could be taken to mean any type of social media like Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr or large online communities like reddit and 4chan.
And what about the constitutionality angle?

The Electronic Frontier Foundation notes that "anonymous communications have an important place in our political and social discourse," and that this is an idea that's been upheld by the Supreme Court. They cite a particular decision (McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission, 1995):

Protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical minority views... Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority... It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation... at the hand of an intolerant society.
"These long-standing rights to anonymity and the protections it affords are critically important for the Internet. As the Supreme Court has recognized the Internet offers a new and powerful democratic forum in which anyone can become a "pamphleteer" or "a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox," says the EFF.

Of course, this isn't the first legislative attempt to limit anonymous speech on the internet. Back in 2012, a nearly identical bill was proposed in the New York State Assembly that would've required site admins to restrict any comments that didn't have "IP address, legal name, and home address" attached to the post.

Like many bills that limit free and anonymous speech, this NY bill was hidden behind a hot-button issue. In its case, cyberbullying.

"It's an effort to deal with the problem. I'm hopeful that this will be helpful in combating that," Sponsor Thomas O'Mara explained, "or at least get a dialog going with the industry about this concern."

But is punishing anonymity the right course of action?

When people who have no idea how the internet actually works start drafting laws, this is what happens. This isn't the first, nor the last bill of this type that will hit state legislatures. More than likely, this bill will never make it out of committee (it's been referred to assignments). But the simple knowledge that this kind of thing could even exist is enough to make me want a drink.

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juniperb
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posted February 23, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Like many bills that limit free and anonymous speech, this NY bill was hidden behind a hot-button issue. In its case, cyberbullying.

Right. Instead of cyberbullying, bullies then could just go directly to their personal residences and do harm to them and their families.

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posted February 23, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point. These lawmakers don't live in reality.

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posted February 23, 2013 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like our internet freedoms are like a relic from the past, when we had more freedom all around.

'Definitely seems like our right to anonymity is slated for extinction in the near (5-10 year) future.

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posted February 24, 2013 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Recently, Silverstein has worked to change the laws regarding identity theft to make it harder for personal information to be shared. Prior to this bill, names and passwords on the computer; cell phone records; e-mails; instant messages; and records of websites visited by an individual were not considered “personal identifying information.” This bill would include that information as private and would prohibit such personal information by brokers.

Politicians...

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posted February 25, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
personally i think the attempt to make law that pregnant women have vaginal probe ultrasounds - floated last year (or was it the year before already?) - far creepier. it didn't pass, by the way. i doubt this will materialize either. but you never know.

the urge to control each and every minute aspect of life seems irresistible to some politicians, but it is equally opposed by others.

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juniperb
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posted March 02, 2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The proposal doesn`t seem to be getting anywhere.

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posted March 02, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Good point. These lawmakers don't live in reality.



They are royalty, which was NOT what the founders wanted. of course, they sdon't have Obamacare, nor does Obama or his special friends such as a sporting goods business run by one of his friends. What a travesty the whole thing is. We need Jwhop

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