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juniperb
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posted March 03, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Somehow this move doesn`t surprise me in the least.


Amid some questioning from Congress about Egypt’s political instability and the U.S. budget crunch, some $450 million in U.S. aid to Egypt has been frozen in Congress. In addition, the International Monetary Fund has held off on loans and debt relief worth more than $4 billion.

Kerry noted that President Obama had pledged $1 billion in U.S. support for Egypt’s democratic revolution in May 2011, following the ouster of Hosni Mubarak after three decades of rule. To encourage entre­pre­neur­ship, he said Sunday that the United States was launching the Egyptian-American Enterprise Fund, with an initial installment of $60 million. That could increase to $300 million in coming years, Kerry said.

How can this be when we are in dire straights and failing fast?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/after-meeting-morsi-kerry-releases-immediate-aid-to-egypt

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posted March 03, 2013 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, Ian, and I told you what the deal was. I guess you just woke up. Sooner or later, everyone will wake up, even the low information voter.

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posted March 03, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Point 1: USA can never fail.

Point 2:
There are two forms of accounting going on in the USA.

One account prints dollars for foreign aid.
No interest, nothing. It is used to spur foreign economies, they use it to print more of their own currency, keep the dollars in their reserve bank and claim value based on this.

The other account prints dollars based on borrowing from the Federal Reserve, without any precious metal backing. This is used to keep US Citizens under the thumb of the banks as the banks claim interest upon interest based on US Government Borrowing. Americans are "brainwashed" into thinking they have to pay this debt. They do not.

High or Low Info Voter, the smart American will get off the "Grid" and treat the US Dollar like Monopoly Currency just because others are playing the game.

Do you know the most valuable possession for an American? It is the US Passport in a friendly country that has a huge difference in US dollar to Local Currency.

In the coming decade, many smart Americans will borrow heavily in USA, shift the dollars to emerging market investments, declare bankruptcy in USA and then relocate to the emerging market as multi-millionaires in that currency. The money will be written off in USA.

Its always written off, any amount can ultimately be written off, or can be generated on pumped up real estate or artificial pumping of metal prices or any other inflationary excuse.

Real wealth is how one manages money as an energy in any country, any currency and any circumstance. All Fiscal Crisis are artificial and for fear mongering to keep people in a mental prison.

Check out the movie "In Time" for a decent depiction of Financial Control Symbolism.

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posted March 03, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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High or Low Info Voter, the smart American will get off the "Grid" and treat the US Dollar like Monopoly Currency just because others are playing the game.

Bingo!

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posted March 03, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Point 1: USA can never fail.

It can fail and it will fail. What do you think Obama is doing? MAKING it fail. You are smart, IQ. I don't understand why you don't see it, but for some reason you don't.

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posted March 04, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You must follow the "paper money" Ami, to know which country will fail. And assuming all of Obamas policies do go wrong, even then the World is too heavily invested in USA for the USA to fail. USA can print dollars on toilet paper, even then the rest of the World will treasure them.
This is the economic reality of the 21st century.

Perhaps if Obama's policies are still around in the 22nd century and he is as powerfully evil as you imagine him to be, then the USA might come down a couple of rankings in the World Order.

Just as an exercise, who will overtake USA?

China: No democracy

Arab World: No experience in scientific/modern thinking, no infrastructure beyond Oil.

India: Hopelessly divided on caste and communal lines, and if the demon named Modi becomes PM, India will become another Yemen.

Japan: First they have to clean up the radiation.

Russia: Unbridled corruption.

Latin America: Perhaps will lead in human psychological contentment, but no chance of any military rise.

Europe: Bankrupt, no scope for innovation or entrepreneurship. Will stay number one in Tourism.

So, it is USA, USA and USA for the next 100 years. Worst case scenario, China will tie as number one but will not dare go for any military escalation with USA.


Because I am smart, let me explain one more theory before the Ivy League professors stumble on it: Military Replacement Cost Theory.

For a country to replicate the American Military Base Set up which they started in 1940s, due to inflation, scarcity of strategic minerals and time to be taken in view of dealing with information ready democracies, the cost will be 300-500 times more.

Thus, the "Net Worth" of USA is 10-15 times more than the so called GDP Deficit if this Global Military Reach is quantified into Dollars.

Ami, if Obama wants USA to fail, he would hire a dozen very evil chaps who are smarter than Alan Greenspan to be in his think tank.
I do not think too much damage can be done with a John Kerry.

BTW, the foreign press hailed the tactics used by Kerry. If Morsy accepts, Egypt becomes a slave to US Interests via IMF.
Please do not see the chump change of aid, there is a 4.8 billion dollar loan at stake as well. If Morsy refuses, EGypt becomes bankrupt.

To put it crudely, Kerry owns Morsy's butt in every position.

I do not see how that is causing the USA to fail?

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posted March 04, 2013 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You must follow the "paper money" Ami, to know which country will fail. And assuming all of Obamas policies do go wrong, even then the World is too heavily invested in USA for the USA to fail. USA can print dollars on toilet paper, even then the rest of the World will treasure them.
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My point is that this cannot go on forever. Look at history, IQ.

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posted March 04, 2013 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do appreciate the opportunity for sincere and reasonable discussion with someone of your moral caliber and great intelligence

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posted March 04, 2013 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


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I do not think too much damage can be done with a John Kerry.


I was deeply disappointed when he was given the position and only time will tell.

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posted March 04, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

My point is that this cannot go on forever. Look at history, IQ.

I agree with this...already, the US government and interests of the people have largely been superceded by the agendas of multinational corporations, NGOs, think tanks (where dual Israeli citizenship and Zionism seem to play a key role, I have to note), global organizations and super elite billionaires dictating to all levels of government.

Ultimately, I think we are headed towards a global government and global currency. There are many signs of this happening and already being under way; we have mostly-undiscussed but significant UN involvement even at a local level now. And just to give another example off the top of my head, of course the world moves in unison to the dictates of WHO and their pandemic protocols. We can look at the IMF as another form of global governance.

The North American Union is becoming more of a reality all the time, with various organizations falling under that header and transcontinental laws and agreements being hammered out to make it more official.

But what is prevailing overall, in this incremental march towards globalism, is not an American thing so much as the cumulative agendas of those who rise to the top. When I consider the longevity of shocking proposals like Agenda 21, and see what's going on in the news, I have to contemplate the likelihood of these transnational power elites aiming for total control of human habits. And that future has nothing to do with the Founding Fathers of the Constitution or our national character, or however one conceives of American nationalism.

ETA: Even if it's eventually called the American empire, in other words, it's not American with respect to this country's traditions, history, current laws, and values.

It's a different creature altogether.

^ My $.02

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posted March 04, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The common sense thing is that a boob cannot spend all his money and all the money of everyone else and then go to the candy store and buy candy.

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posted March 04, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re agenda 21 i am watching with interest to see what they do about localities who are outright refusing it. Lots of them!

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posted March 04, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`m not a member of the John Birch Society, but I like their stance on agenda 21.
http://www.jbs.org/issues-pages/stop-agenda-21

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posted March 04, 2013 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx juni, i'll have a gander, tho i must say it seems no one who knows about it wants it, and a lot of info is doing the rounds to clue people in.

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posted March 04, 2013 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
Re agenda 21 i am watching with interest to see what they do about localities who are outright refusing it. Lots of them!

What is it?

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posted March 04, 2013 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
I`m not a member of the John Birch Society, but I like their stance on agenda 21.
http://www.jbs.org/issues-pages/stop-agenda-21


Thanks juni, I'll check that out when I get time.

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At its mpst basic, ami, it's a global planning scheme forcing all people into urbanized communities along cotridors of public transport, leaving the rest.of the land uninhabited for agri and industrial purposes regulated and run by the one -worlders to maximize cinservation and production for All. Many probs with that as i am sure you csn imagine...

Interestingly oneone of the projected "problems" of the future - continuing population explosion with concurrent food, watet and resource shortages - appears to be in the process of reversing...which brings a whole new set of problems not included in the analysts' clever conclusions...

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Sorry again for mini-me's typo-mania!

Will bring a link tomorrow when i have a computer...

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posted March 05, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

What is it?

It's something low-information voters talk about.

Sorry... couldn't resist!

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posted March 05, 2013 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cheeky

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posted March 05, 2013 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It's something low-information voters talk about.

Sorry... couldn't resist!



I have heard Glen Beck talk about it and I know it is bad, but I can't take anything else bad, so I did not pursue it. Obama is bad enough for 10 lifetimes

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Valerie Jared bragged that she had 2 justices in her pocket. There are still a few strongholds left, like Rush, Glen Beck, Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Dr Carson and others like this, but they are all that is standing in the way of tyranny.

However the last election was won--stealing or dumbed down people---that election was the tipping over point for our country. We can talk all we want, but we have no power, so it is useless chatter.

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Iq

You succinctly cover allot of territory. RE: cyber currency that the world banks deal in.

This is one of the main reasons I get very angry about the term "entitlements" Dem's should not use this term, as it is a misnomer. Using it spreads the false idea that people have not paid into their so called entitlements.

Language has proved effective in controlling the masses. Like G. Carlin pointed out, in PTSD Euphemistic Language our first misuse we went from "shell shocked" to the softer "battle fatigue"

Revenue is a dirty word to the far right.
With the printing of cyber money our social welfare is stolen from us, and we let them do it.

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Juni thx for the link. See, everybody is good for some things even JBS...in fact Gary Allen, who wrote the primer on how the banksters snd big money go about sewing things up (esp the federal reserve angle) was a bircher...this was the book that lit alex jones's fire when he was in high school snd is the jumping off point for icke et al, too... obsession with socialism bends their thinking and nationalism is as much a disease as globalism, but they have their good points too. And they are right that the local level is crucial. One of the reasons that i deplore the obsessive focus on obama

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