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aquaguy91
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posted March 07, 2013 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its become almost a daily thing for north korea to threaten us (the united states). when is the government going to take them seriously? and by take them seriously i mean blow them to kingdom come. what is your opinion on the matter? do you think the u.s and south korea should take out north korea before they have an oppurtunity to take us out or not?

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posted March 07, 2013 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well hay-ell aquaguy, why not just take out every idiot who talks trash and get it over with? Not like we've never done it beforr, right? Line em up and show em who's boss!

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posted March 07, 2013 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reagan would have already bombed his royal palace. Just like he did with the Libyan madman. That shut his mouth. It would work for this nut job also.

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posted March 07, 2013 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
North Korea has a history of bluffing, so when it comes to threats most countries won't take them as seriously.

There just playing the "political" game again.

Iran is a bigger problem, then N. Korea.

Plus the few communist countries still in existence back North Korea.

China would feel threatened if North Korea was invaded.

If China wasn't in the picture N. Korea would be done.

On paper there a force to be reckoned with.
Most of there military hardware is obsolete cold-war era soviet junk, lol.

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posted March 08, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SpooL:
North Korea has a history of bluffing, so when it comes to threats most countries won't take them as seriously.

There just playing the "political" game again.

Iran is a bigger problem, then N. Korea.

Plus the few communist countries still in existence back North Korea.

China would feel threatened if North Korea was invaded.

If China wasn't in the picture N. Korea would be done.

On paper there a force to be reckoned with.
Most of there military hardware is obsolete cold-war era soviet junk, lol.



i dont think we have any other options but to take them seriously. they are actively trying to create a missile that can reach the continental u.s. we need to act before its too late.

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posted March 08, 2013 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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... they are actively trying to create a missile that can reach the continental u.s. we need to act before its too late.

N. Korea has a low success rate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17823706

No Offensive, but they've been working on it for the last 30yrs.

North Korea likes to brag, but never succeeds.

There no way close, as mentioned China is in the way.

What will happen is they will ask China to put more pressure on N. Korea.

However....

We don't know much about Kim Jong-un and the way he rationalizes his decisions.

His father was calculating and knew the US and S. Korea has more power then him that's why he always was bluffing, with his Son we don't know.

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posted March 08, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SpooL:
N. Korea has a low success rate. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17823706

No Offensive, but they've been working on it for the last 30yrs.

North Korea likes to brag, but never succeeds.

There no way close, as mentioned China is in the way.

What will happen is they will ask China to put more pressure on N. Korea.

However....

We don't know much about Kim
Jong-un and the way he
rationalizes his decisions.
His father was calculating and knew the US and S. Korea has more power then him that's why he always was bluffing, with his Son we don't know.



well that may be true, but we
now know that they have nuclear capabilities , they only lack the capability to hit the continental u.s and they will be able to do that sooner or later if we dont act. they have stated over and over again that they intend to completely destroy us, when will we listen? there is no logic with these people , they have nothing to gain by being hostile towards the u.s/south korea yet they have done exactly that for 60+ years. most of the people there are starving and they are worried about building nuclear weapons to destroy the very people who could help them. there is no dealing with these people ,they are h*ll bent on destruction. so we should make their wish come true before they have a chance to hurt us.

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posted March 08, 2013 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so far in history, only the US has used atomic bombs against an ennemy. that raises many questions...

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posted March 08, 2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Reagan would have already bombed his royal palace. Just like he did with the Libyan madman. That shut his mouth. It would work for this nut job also.

Well, after this awful, incompetent, lazy president disarms us, people will be bombing us

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posted March 08, 2013 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquaguy. For starters, talk is cheap, yes? His chatter is to make his people admire him even though the globe is laughing at him.

Secondly, why would we blow up children, women, cats, dogs and such over a loud mouth? Rather like shooting a mosquito with an elephant gun.

Thirdly, note Randall said "blow the palace up" that is a far cry for bringing harm to innocents.

War is never a lets just shut their mouth option IMHO.

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posted March 08, 2013 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a few points:

1. This nutjob is saying this due to the sanctions we are taking aginst him. We have blocked luxury items from being shipped to him (among several other negatives).

2. China has voted for the sanctions, as has every other country in the UN (it was a unanimous vote).

3. Reagan called first to give a warning before he bombed his house, and that idiot still left his children inside.

4. Obama should grow a set and do the same to this guy. Tell him we are going over there and flattening out his palace, and that he is welcomed to try to stop us if he can, and from now on he better keep his mouth shut, or we will be back.

5. China is afraid of us. We can collapse their economy if we wanted to. Granted, we don't want a war with them, but they don't want a war with anyone. They are actually gradually becoming our allies, and they are only one generation away from becoming a capitalist nation. They know communism doesn't work. It's just the old-timers keeping communism intact. They will all die off eventually and take their outdated ideas with them.

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posted March 08, 2013 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. Fly a couple of old obsolete drones and let them circle his palace. I surmize the trash talking may stop.

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posted March 08, 2013 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama should grow a set

He only has a set when he is worrying about lazy self, not the American citizen.

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posted March 08, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
reagan did not bomb libya because gaddaffi was a loud mouthed macho fool pretending to be a big boy.

libya blew up american sites BEFORE reagan went in.

juni is right talk is cheap. china has stepped up the sanctions with the us. korea is not going to hit us with china in the way. and if he wanted to he could not.

this kind of cowboy thinking is why guns are dangerous in this country.

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posted March 08, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its not obama's fault, nor is it any modern day politicians fault.the blame falls on politicians of the past ignoring the problem and letting it grow uncontrollably. now the situation is alot more complicated. china and russia seem and act like allies but they are the ones supplying weapons to north korea, weapons that have killed lots of americans and south koreans in the last 60 years. as the old saying goes"a friend of my enemy is not my friend".

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posted March 08, 2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
its not obama's fault, nor is it any modern day politicians fault.the blame falls on politicians of the past ignoring the problem and letting it grow uncontrollably. now the situation is alot more complicated. china and russia seem and act like allies but they are the ones supplying weapons to north korea, weapons that have killed lots of americans and south koreans in the last 60 years. as the old saying goes"a friend of my enemy is not my friend".


It IS his fault because he is disarmimg us and acting like a lazy incompetent, at the same time. You have to be strong or you will be bullied, a person or a country.

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posted March 08, 2013 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami we have more weapons than the next 20 countries combined and korea has, basically, squat. Disarmament is a LONG way away!

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posted March 09, 2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami we have more weapons than the next 20 countries combined and korea has, basically, squat. Disarmament is a LONG way away!

i believe our military budget is bigger than the next 8 biggest countries combined. and it is estimated that north korea has enough weapons and ammunition to wage an all out war for 100 or so days.

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posted March 09, 2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If other leaders see our president as a dolt, we are weak, not matter what we have or don't. People would not push Reagan around. Obama wants to reduce the military. He says this, as he give money to terrorists who are avowed for the destruction of Israel i.e Muslim brotherhood. Obama must be stopped with a bigger force than all the propaganda he has put out to the low info voter. Rand Paul may be able to reach the low information voter. That population must be educated, for the US to ever get back on track to it's original greatness. Can it happen? I don't know? Obama's course will take us down to a Greece like status. Only time will tell, but I think Obama has ruined us for all time, myself. I HOPE I am wrong.

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posted March 09, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as i have said before you can disagree with obama's policies but you cant blame everything on him. the government is alot bigger than just one man. these problems have been going on before obama ever came into office. our military budget is way overboard, we can trim the budget a bit and still have the most powerful military in the world.

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posted March 10, 2013 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem is military budgets aren't the entire story.

For example you can raise an army in India or China much cheaper as compared to the US.

This is because there is more potential manpower available.

Equipment is also cheaper for example an AK47 costs $500 an M16 $2000.

An F-22 cost $150 Million vs a T-50 PAK FA costs $47 Million.

The pentagon is a businesses in itself and thats why costs are higher as compared to India or China.


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....Obama's course will take us down to a Greece like status.

Greece was brought down because 50% of the population doesn't pay pay taxes("Corporate Tax Rate"), the other 50% works for the government.

Therefore 50% of the population is costing revenue. The other 50% isn't contributing enough revenue.


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posted March 10, 2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AquaG, a good article on Kim Jong Un`s saber rattling.

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North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un has visited a number of military units in recent days, and experts in Seoul aren't ruling out another provocation from the country, perhaps similar to that of November 2010, when the North fired grenades at the island of Yeonpyeong, a front-line island, killing four South Koreans.

There are three reasons for Kim's saber rattling. First, Pyongyang is apparently convinced that the rest of the world is out to get them. The regime also believes it is their right to possess nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles, just like its archenemy, the United States.

Second, Kim and his family aim to show their starving underlings that they are legitimate leaders capable of protecting the people from external enemies, who are supposedly the real reason for the country's miserable economic state. Chinese Professor Shi Yinhong said in a recent interview that the nuclear test's goal was "strengthening his reputation as leader with the North Korean public and the military."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/pyongyangs-provocations-motiva tes-north-korean-threats/story?id=18688033

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posted March 11, 2013 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting it.

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