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Topic: Are There Any Socialist Countries Who Are Thriving?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40318 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 25, 2013 09:53 PM
This is a good question. I don't think so.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 7171 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 25, 2013 11:26 PM
Yeah. Norway always.IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1895 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 01:55 AM
Are we talking socialism as defined by American conservatives? Or as defined by everyone else? They're different animals and as a result have different answers. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 40318 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 26, 2013 08:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by AcousticGod: Yeah. Norway always.
How is it socialist? I don't know anything about it? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1422 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 09:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Are we talking socialism as defined by American conservatives? Or as defined by everyone else? They're different animals and as a result have different answers.
Ditto. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
SpooL Knowflake Posts: 528 From: Toronto/Ottawa,Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2013 12:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: How is it socialist? I don't know anything about it?
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Are we talking socialism as defined by American conservatives? Or as defined by everyone else? They're different animals and as a result have different answers.
Keep, in mind there hasn't ever been a "true socialist state". So I will agree with PixieJane with what she said, socialism according and defined by whom. There are several countries that have some socialist ideas such as Norway, but aren't socialist in the traditional sense. Example universities in Norway don't charge tuition and is available to almost all Norwegians Canada can also be considered socialist because of the fact we have universally health care and is available to anyone. I think you get the idea... When you refer to a Socialist State are you thinking more along the lines of Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge? or an Agriumm socialist society? IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4330 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2013 06:20 AM
Pragmatically Socialist Countries with Liberal Thinking who are successful when considering overall human development:1. Norway 2. Sweden 3. Denmark 4. Finland 5. Venezuela A recent survey of CEOs and CFOs showed that Norwegian heads refused to take up jobs in Capitalist countries, even when offered excessive pay. That is the satisfaction they get from their Socialist Country. Russia was also doing very well until they blew funds in the Nuclear Arms Race and then idiotically attempted to conquer Afghanistan. Socialism will always work when the leadership believes in accountability to a Divine Force. That is where Russia failed. Capitalism will also work perpetually when compound interest is made illegal, workers rights are given priority and environment is given more importance over profit. This can be called "Karmic Capitalism" IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 1895 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 27, 2013 12:20 PM
quote: Russia was also doing very well until they blew funds in the Nuclear Arms Race and then idiotically attempted to conquer Afghanistan
Yeah, I'm aware that by the 60s they were doing very well for themselves (though America teaches otherwise, but I also learned from Russians that Russia lied about life in the US just as the US lied about life in Soviet Russia) but it doesn't seem that impressive to me given that they lived in a resource rich society after they killed off tens of millions (I think 20 million is a conservative estimate that doesn't include the toll of war) under Stalin. I suppose I should add for Americans that it's true they didn't live in a consumerist society so they didn't have malls or the latest toys as Americans could boast at the time, but many had good jobs and more than one home (the other called a dacha) with plenty of paid vacations which is more than many Americans could boast. Luckily, when next the state couldn't handle the burden of society it chose to abandon its obligations rather than pulling another Stalin. quote: Socialism will always work when the leadership believes in accountability to a Divine Force.
Apparently not always: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangkum IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 9732 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2013 01:25 PM
gorbachev attributes the failure of the USSR to CHERNOBYL. more than any other single factor. nuke reactors can be hazardous to a country's health, and we have tons of them - it's amazing how many of them, including one right near DC, are sitting on FAULTS waiting to become the next fukishima...it's also amazing that someone who has an opinion on whether socialist countries are thriving doesn't know what or who socialist countries are. but i guess rush supplied the first answer. brazil is also coming up bigtime. america is a partly socialist country too, and doing much better than a lot of the world coming out of a GLOBAL recession which makes "thriving" a loaded term. IP: Logged |