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posted April 11, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.space.com/9108-stephen-hawking-speaks-space-exploration-time-travel.html

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Humans must continue exploring space, if only for the romance of it, and time travel should be possible, but engineers will have to figure out a way to warp space-time to be sure, famed physicist Stephen Hawking says.

Hawking spoke out on those subjects and others in a Sunday interview with PARADE Magazine to discuss his new book "The Grand Design" with Caltech physicist Leonard Mlodinow.

In the interview, Hawking said he supports the continuation of human space exploration.


Robots may be good at gathering data, he argued, but they shouldn't entirely replace people in space. Seeing astronauts floating around in all that vast blackness is inspiring, and people need inspiration, he added.

"Science is not only a disciple of reason, but, also, one of romance and passion," Hawking told PARADE.

On paper, time travel should also be in cards because of Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity, which allows for the potential to warp space-time so much that a traveler could leave Earth in a rocket and return home before he or she ever departed, Hawking said. Of course, that means you have to be able to warp space-time, which is pretty tricky.

"I showed it would require matter with negative energy density, which may not be available," Hawking said.

Hawking also touched on the need for some cosmic perspective, too.

He compared humanity's view of the universe to that of a goldfish looking out of its bowl, saying that we can't be sure our view is the "correct" one. We might be in a giant goldfish bowl, for there is no single, absolute picture of reality, he added.

The PARADE interview also touched on other topics such as Hawking's family life, his hopes for science to transform a troubled African continent and his commitment to helping regular people understand basic facts about the cosmos.

"Most people don?t have time to master the very mathematical details of theoretical physics," he says. "But I believe everyone can, and should, have a broad picture of how the universe operates and our place in it. This is what I have tried to convey in my books."

But Hawking did not address some of his other views, which have generated a lot of media buzz recently. [Stephen Hawking's view on alien life.]

In an April episode of his TV series "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking," the physicist warned humanity not to be so rapturously eager to find extraterrestrial life.

Advanced spacefaring civilizations could be on the prowl for resources, he said on the show. They may be interested only in conquering and strip-mining the Earth, not getting to know us.

And in his new book, Hawking argues that God is not necessary to explain the universe; the law of gravity is enough by itself.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing," he wrote. "Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."

Hawking is now almost completely paralyzed by the neurodegenerative disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease). He answered the interviewer's questions by twitching one muscle in his right cheek, sending an infrared beam to a computer that translates the twitches into words.

Despite his disability, Hawking said he has lived a full life. He has children and grandchildren, and has traveled the world. He has experienced weightlessness, taking a flight in 2007 aboard a plane whose rollercoaster motion generated zero-gravity conditions for short spells.

In the PARADE interview, Hawking said he has no plans to slow down.

"I have traveled the world, from the Antarctic to zero gravity," he said. "Perhaps one day I will go into space."


People like to highlight Hawking's quotes about aliens for a few reasons. Some think that this nullifies his opinions because it puts him in the flake category. Others like it because it $ells.

There is no doubt though that he has a great mind.

I tend to agree with the premise that a lack of space exploration hinders us to future advancements. Both metaphysical and physical.

The cuts to our own space program[s] and attendant technologies was met with extreme displeasure on my part.

what say you?


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posted April 11, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i suspect we will be colonizing space. somewhere i read an interesting point that warp drive is not necessary (though patience is!) if we can find a source of power that is sustainable and build travelling space stations, generations can be born and die on the way to whatever destination...the original travellers will not make it but their descendents will...

but if we can put a station in space we can put one on mars, surely? and that is the beginning.

i have felt for a long time that the PTB have an eye to leaving this planet behind as they have continents in the past, when they got too crowded/corrupted, it is the white mans MO for sure...

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posted April 11, 2013 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RE:warp drive

NASA is still working on that one, as of Jan/2013 anyway.
Be interested in learning about it being unnecessary. The thought of spending your lifetime on a shuttle or other vehicle seems a tad depressing though.

RE: yes to our MO, and we have too few options/resources here.

Of the options: Why Mars do you think? Why is the Moon no longer a contender.

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i don't know if the moon was ever a contender - or if there is already a base there as some believe!! For some reason mars just seems more tenable, and that is only intuition, and the fact that the chabot center in oakland were talking to my grandsons 5th grade class about it (as an assumption for a space mission simulation they were doing, but it struck me they might be laying "groundwork" in kids' perceptions...

but it does seem that mars may have more potential, though hidden, than commonlly assumed. we are spending an awful lot of time on it, for one thing!

i agree with hawking that the romance and belief in a frontier of some sort (we don't have much left here!!) does uplift general spirits and could give us a reason to stop playing tug o war with the resources on this finite home base.

and i suspect it will be common place for people to at least dream of exploring space even if it doesn't happen in their lifetimes. the white man, especially, seems to need new territory and the pioneer ethic to stay fresh.

interestingly the hopi legend says it is our very wandering, conquering MO that the Great Spirit meant to be the tool of bringing all the peoples of the earth back into one family after the scattering of the great deluge...

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posted April 12, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, it all boils down to water


Mars has large albeit frozen deposits.
The Moon is likely to become an offplanet dumping ground. Nuclear waste comes to mind.

Interesting that you mention the Hopi. They are caretakers, and peaceful, so I looked them up to remind myself of their credo. http://www.hopi-nsn.gov/

In a large kitchen that I ran, the huge dry erase board was used for many purposes.
One was the QOTD- Quote of the day. If I didn't write one, someone else would. Often I would put up movie quotes, occasionally lyrics with a name this band stipulation. One day I asked for everyone to contribute names of native tribes. We did well, if I remember correctly we had over a hundred on the board.

Exploration appears to be part of our DNA. Space is the place to go, our back track has to be cleaned up first though.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2002/12mar_waterplanet/


Leia Skywalker?

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