posted April 14, 2013 09:24 AM            

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posted April 14, 2013 10:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Node:
Since this sounds personal, perhaps he can e-mail it to you.

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It is not personal Node-y. It is just business

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posted April 14, 2013 10:35 AM            

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posted April 14, 2013 11:09 AM            

The facts are that he transferred in as Barry Soetero from Indonesia. He graduated in 1983 without Honors and was an average student with average to mediocre grades.

How he got to Harvard Law School is still a point of contention/jealousy with a number of people I know in several graduating classes around mine.

I did take a semester-long seminar with him. Two guys I know were Political Science majors and took more courses with him.

You don't forget an International Student, especially a tall black man with an Afro. Not to be insolent, but It's not common today, and it's was exceedingly rare back then.

posted April 14, 2013 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The point of contention isn't that the President enrolled at Columbia College as a junior transfer from Occidental College.

The facts are that he transferred in as Barry Soetero from Indonesia. He graduated in 1983 without Honors and was an average student with average to mediocre grades.

How he got to Harvard Law School is still a point of contention/jealousy with a number of people I know in several graduating classes around mine.

I did take a semester-long seminar with him. Two guys I know were Political Science majors and took more courses with him.

You don't forget an International Student, especially a tall black man with an Afro. Not to be insolent, but It's not common today, and it's was exceedingly rare back then.

I'll write more later.

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posted April 14, 2013 11:36 AM            

It seems that the ONLY conclusion that can be drawn is that Barak Obama as we know him is a fraud.

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posted April 14, 2013 12:07 PM            

Columbia is a huge school on a city campus and the glaring "stardom" of this supposedly unique figure does not jive with me.

And if he was called by a different name, rarely showed up, and failed to distinguish himself scholaatically, why is he so sharply remembered?

posted April 14, 2013 12:35 PM            

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I find it hard to believe that a black man with afro was exceedingly rare at columbia, in the 80s or anytime since the 60s...

Columbia is a huge school on a city campus and the glaring "stardom" of this supposedly unique figure does not jive with me.

And if he was called by a different name, rarely showed up, and failed to distinguish himself scholaatically, why is he so sharply remembered?

Not trying to disparage ian, but somehow these " facts" don't add up.

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He was in his class!!! I hate when people see the obvious but won't face it. That is why we are losing our country!

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posted April 14, 2013 01:29 PM            

The facts, as stated by Jim Tranquado, Occidental`s Director of Communications, soon dispelled the rumors for many .

A peek at how it went down is here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

posted April 14, 2013 01:46 PM            

Now if ian had been friends with him i could understand him remembering him but 30 years is a long time to remember someone you rarely saw and had no distinguishing qualities apart from an afro...

posted April 14, 2013 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Columbia University is huge. However Columbia College in the mid 1980s had a graduating class of about 400. No women graduated from Columbia College until 1987. Until 1982, all women went to Barnard. Several of the Columbua College dorms had no ladies rooms. Men only until Barack transferred in. Every guy knew each other. The Columbia College population doubled in 1984. The graduating class now is 1,000. Columbia University has 18,000. The ratio of graduates to undergraduates is 8 to 1.

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If people want to be blind they will stay blind. Too many blind people make for the kind of country we have, Ian. No surprise there

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posted April 14, 2013 02:32 PM            

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Obama even published an article in a school magazine called the Sundial. A reporter for the conservative Human Events magazine recently called it "a wholesale endorsement of all sorts of leftist claptrap fashionable at the time." The full article is available on the Web site of Politico.com. It was published in the issue

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posted April 14, 2013 02:46 PM            

A former acquaintance of mine, thru a mutual friend, Jim Jarmusch, also transferred into Columbia from a less than illustrious beginning at a less prestigious college. The best schools do have a way of looking past written records at the student and their potential.

posted April 14, 2013 02:46 PM            

Due to another viral internet rumor- go figure SSDD. [ same shite, different day ] :

Obama's roommate at Columbia has this to say:

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By Phil Boerner ’84

I was Barack Obama ’83’s roommate at Columbia College in fall 1981. I met him in 1979, when we were freshmen at Occidental College (Oxy) in Los Angeles and our dorm rooms were directly opposite each other.

I came to college as a middle-class guy from Bethesda, Md., where I’d lived from fifth grade through high school. At Oxy, we attended some of the same social events and had late-night philosophical discussions related to our college reading or to current affairs. We attended rallies on campus where we were urged to “draft beer, not people,” and discussed the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, apartheid in South Africa, the hostages in Iran and the Contras in Latin America. The crowd we hung out with included men, women, blacks, whites, Hispanics and international students. Barack listened carefully to all points of view and he was funny, smart, thoughtful and well-liked. It was easy to sit down with him and have a fun conversation.

We both transferred from Oxy to Columbia in fall 1981. Barack had found an apartment on West 109th Street, between Amsterdam and Columbus, and suggested that I room with him. Our sublet was a third-story walk-up in a so-so neighborhood; the unit next door was burned out and vacant. The doorbell didn’t work; to be let in when I first arrived I had to yell up to Barack from the street. It was a railroad apartment: From the kitchen, you walked into Barack’s room, then my room, and lastly the living room. We didn’t have a television or computers. In that apartment we hosted a number of visitors, mostly friends from Oxy who stayed overnight when they were passing through town. Barack was very generous to these visitors. As a host and roommate, he sometimes did the shopping and cooked the chicken curry.

Barack has said that he spent a lot of time in the library while at Columbia and one reason for this was that our apartment had irregular heat, and we didn’t enjoy hanging out there once the weather got cold. The radiators in our apartment were either stone cold, or, less often, blasted out such intense heat that we had to open the windows and let in freezing air just to cool things down. When the heat wasn’t on, we sometimes sat with sleeping bags or blankets wrapped around ourselves and read our school books. We also didn’t have regular hot water and sometimes used the Columbia gym for showers.

I remember often eating breakfast with Barack at Tom’s Restaurant on Broadway. Occasionally we went to The West End for beers. We enjoyed exploring museums such as the Guggenheim, the Met and the American Museum of Natural History, and browsing in bookstores such as the Strand and the Barnes & Noble opposite Columbia. We both liked taking long walks down Broadway on a Sunday afternoon, and listening to the silence of Central Park after a big snow. I also remember jogging the loop around Central Park with Barack.

One weekend I invited Barack to meet my grandparents, Elizabeth and William Lytton Payne ’46 GSAS, at their summer place in the Catskills, which we called “the farm.” I took Barack to meet some neighbors on the mountain; everyone seemed to like him pretty well, whether they were die-hard supporters of Ronald Reagan or extreme liberals. While at the farm, Barack joined the routines there, which typically included a few morning hours doing chores, such as clearing brush and sawing firewood.

After that first semester, we had to move. Barack tried to find an apartment for both of us, but was only able to find a studio for himself. I was able to house-sit in Brooklyn Heights. Barack and other friends came and visited me there a few times; we typically watched pro basketball or football on TV, or went out for dinner at a Chinese restaurant. He was amused by my beginning banjo playing (I’m much better today!). Hanging out, we could get pretty emotional about sports, food and injustice. I remember one time when we were out walking he took the time to ask a homeless guy how he was doing, so even then he was concerned about others.

Through different living arrangements in Astoria, Queens; Bay Ridge, Brooklyn; and all over Manhattan, we stayed in touch and remained friends for the rest of our college years. He got to know my girlfriend from Arkansas, who is now my wife. Since I last saw him in 1985, we have exchanged a few letters and photos. He left for Chicago, and I eventually settled in Sacramento.

Barack wasn’t thinking about becoming President when he was in college; he wanted to be a writer. Barack is a good man — some might even call him a saint for tolerating my beginning banjo playing. Based on my six years of knowing him in college and the years immediately after, I can vouch that Barack is a man of character, and I trust him to do the right things when he is President.

Phil Boerner ’84 was born in Washington, D.C., and lives with his wife and two children in Sacramento, Calif. He is communications and public relations manager at the California Veterinary Medical Association.

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Personal opinion is one thing, facts are another.

I am sick to death of internet rumor, and suppositions posted here that have no base on facts.

posted April 14, 2013 02:51 PM            

Seems 2009 is the next 2013.

posted April 14, 2013 03:47 PM            

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Thanks for that link Juni.

Seems 2009 is the next 2013.

Funny how a "fraud" was Senior Lecturer on Constitutional Law for over ten years

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First of all, a lecturer is the lowest of any academic totem pole and many frauds go under the radar when they are hired for various and sundry reasons.

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posted April 14, 2013 04:04 PM            

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It should also be noted, however, that the title is sometimes, paradoxically, used in just the opposite sense: in some institutions, a lecturer especially "distinguished lecturer" may also refer to a position similar to emeritus professor. Also, in some schools it's a temporary post for visiting academics of considerable prominence—e.g. a famous writer may serve for a term or a year, for instance. When confusion arose about Barack Obama's status on the law faculty at the University of Chicago, the institution stated that although his title was "senior lecturer," that school actually uses that title for notable people such as federal judges and politicians who are deemed of high prestige but simply lack sufficient time to commit to a traditional tenure-track position.

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posted April 14, 2013 04:10 PM            

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wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecturer

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That would be a professor who was a full professor and came back for a gig. This guy was the lowest on the academic rung. Try again, Mr Nodester

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