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katatonic
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posted April 15, 2013 11:35 PM
  
...in Afghanistan by us forces. (google this for multiple entries)As well as 3 killed in Boston. The "nation is in despair" as the news stories suggest, but only for our own loss, while daily innocent children pay the price for OUR self righteousness. As you will see if you google the first the coverage is minimal. Do we need to be nuked before we make the connection between what we do day in day out to the innocents of.other countries and these sporadic strikes at home? IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted April 15, 2013 11:36 PM
When will they ever learn, indeed.IP: Logged |
Node
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posted April 16, 2013 08:41 AM
What I googled kat was years without war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations
Find me a long time period any nation or culture hasn't been a part of some war, conflict, police action, what have you. In all of human history it is hard to do.The U.S. is certainly not unique as far as conflict is concerned.
Our sanctified position has been severely tarnished many times, our P.R. group has also fallen behind the last several years. With billions of people able to connect through the internet, our covert activities are much better known than before as well. While the Boston bombing almost entirely takes up the news cycles, news of the erroneous American air bombing of an Afghan wedding with no terrorists present, killing over 30 will go unnoticed.
dailymail
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The bombing happened today in a village in the rugged, mountainous region 175 km (105 miles) northeast of the southern city of Kandahar, residents said.
They told the local Pashtu service of the BBC at least 120 people had been either killed or wounded.
A Defense Ministry official said celebrants were firing into the air, as is traditional in Pashtun weddings.
"There was no-one to help last night," resident Abdul Saboor told the BBC. "We managed to transfer some of the wounded to Kandahar in the morning. Some of the foreigners' choppers also came to help.
"There are no Taliban or al Qaeda or Arabs here. These people were all civilians, women and children."
Defence Ministry offical Dr Gulbuddin told Reuters: "More than 30 people were killed. It was a wedding ceremony and some of the participants were firing in the sky as part of the celebration. Americans have confessed that they made a mistake."
Yikes those Brit papers can be lurid. The pictures are so graphic. Another time another topic. [ why and how we sanitize ]
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Ami Anne
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posted April 16, 2013 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by katatonic:
...in Afghanistan by us forces. (google this for multiple entries)As well as 3 killed in Boston. The "nation is in despair" as the news stories suggest, but only for our own loss, while daily innocent children pay the price for OUR self righteousness. As you will see if you google the first the coverage is minimal. Do we need to be nuked before we make the connection between what we do day in day out to the innocents of.other countries and these sporadic strikes at home?
Before people can learn, they have to PROPERLY define and root out the enemy. Not doing that is like having termites eating out your home and replacing the pictures and expecting your home to not rot. ------------------
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katatonic
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posted April 16, 2013 11:26 AM
Well the daily mail does love lurid...but war or not there are far too many "mistakes" made at the expense of innocent people.As to properly defining the enemy, it is fear kyself yhat perpetuates snd perpetrates this travesty. People don't need to know exactly who the ememy is but exactly what this is doing to our souls. The fighting in belfast stopped when the eomen made this crystal clear to their steadfast "protectors"...that the protection was worse than the threat. IP: Logged |
SpooL
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posted April 16, 2013 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Before people can learn, they have to PROPERLY define and root out the enemy.
Wrong approach, as you get stronger the same as your opponents just adds more violence. The US has more enemies then friends right know or friends with strained relationships. I'm betting the Boston bombing was a result of home grown terrorism, generally right-wing extremist groups. Similarly to Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma city bombing. If you look at the blast, you can see that there is white smoke. If it was black smoke you would know it was a high intensity IED/ explosive device, white smoke would mean low intensive.
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katatonic
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posted April 16, 2013 06:40 PM
The idea that "the" enemy can be "rooted out" and destroyed, like the idea of total security, is pretty much an unachievable fantasy, until the majority of people let go of their fear of everything "other"...we don't even have that in one town let alone the world...There are no measures offensive or defensive that csn guarantee peace. We could get a lot closer though! IP: Logged |
Node
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posted April 16, 2013 06:56 PM
kat quote:
"protection was worse than the threat.
Wise words. IP: Logged |
Node
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posted April 16, 2013 06:58 PM
SpooL: quote:
If it was black smoke you would know it was a high intensity IED/ explosive device, white smoke would mean low intensive.
Well spotted  IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted April 16, 2013 07:03 PM
Pressure cooker bomb. The same (CBS news report)that was used on the trains in India.
I know the damage an unattended cooker can do to surroundings and ceiling. I can`t imagine one filled with metal debris.
Yep Node, I suspect home grown as well. The McVeigh/ OK. bombing is a good reference of mind set on a much smaller scale. .------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted April 16, 2013 08:02 PM
I think it is vile how all you people hope and wish it were home grown.------------------
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katatonic
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posted April 16, 2013 08:18 PM
It is vile that people think to do these things. I wonder why you see people's hunches as "hopes"? Do you hope it was another jihad strike...or what?Violence is vile - no coincidence how similar they sound. Anyone who condones "wiping out the enemy" is supporting perps like this. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted April 16, 2013 08:38 PM
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I think it is vile how all you people hope and wish it were home grown.
I think you need to read posts and understand what is being talked about. Is this Rush Interpretation 101? ------------------
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Node
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posted April 16, 2013 08:43 PM
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juniperb
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posted April 16, 2013 08:50 PM
Since no one (group) has taken the blame and the smallness of the bombs indicates to me, a right wing home grown person/s. I am concerned it was practice for another larger target.------------------
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SpooL
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posted April 16, 2013 08:53 PM
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I think it is vile how all you people hope and wish it were home grown.
Don't be narrow minded and assume all terrorism is caused by foreigners or radical Islamist. The terrorist network has been interrupted, that's why there trying to regroup in Africa. This is the time when home grown terrorism will occur, you have massive problems in the US and people not agreeing with government policy. The fact is a low intensive device is the work of a less sophisticated group hence some "nutbar" making a crude device from home. Not a sophisticated international terrorist group. Ami Anne, I think you would be devastated to hear if the news was the work of someone with radical right wing views. A left wing group would protest and ruin everyones schedule, right wingers use force and take lives. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted April 16, 2013 08:58 PM
I agreed with everything you said until the last line.There have been plenty of violent left-wing groups. ------------------
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mockingbird
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posted April 16, 2013 09:01 PM
Because I'm pecking away at my iPad while nursing, here's a link rather than a few paragraphs:
http://terrorism.about.com/od/originshistory/a/LeftWingTerror.htm ------------------
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SpooL
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posted April 16, 2013 09:03 PM
Thanks, mockingbird for the link.Well the mater is extremist of any kind is never good. There's always that need to "push there agenda" I know the PM said he wants Canada to help somehow. Truth be known I dropped everything when I heard the news. There is a big human element to this tragedy, its an event that brings runners across the world. If your not affected by this tragedy you are not human. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted April 16, 2013 09:04 PM
Not so much now, but meh.For the record, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a lone American nut job given the date, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was an AQ sympathizer given the IED type. Edited to add: Just saw your reply, and yeah.
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Faith
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posted April 17, 2013 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by katatonic:
...in Afghanistan by us forces. (google this for multiple entries)As well as 3 killed in Boston. The "nation is in despair" as the news stories suggest, but only for our own loss, while daily innocent children pay the price for OUR self righteousness. As you will see if you google the first the coverage is minimal. Do we need to be nuked before we make the connection between what we do day in day out to the innocents of.other countries and these sporadic strikes at home?
I think many of us have made the connection, regardless of how the media spins everything. It's tragic all around.  IP: Logged |
iQ
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posted April 17, 2013 07:12 AM
The life of an Afghani Child is exactly as valuable as an American Child. There are no winners in any terror strike. The attack on the Boston Marathon whether by Radical Islamists or local terrorists is a shameless and evil act. The attack on the Afghani Civilians is nothing but a shameless terrorist attack, no less than any Intifada or Osama Bin Laden sponsored attack on Israel or USA. There is no excuse whatsoever for either sides, and the Law of Karma will ultimately have to balance out everything because the leadership in the Planet is refusing to learn the lessons about the abuse of power.
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Ami Anne
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posted April 17, 2013 07:35 AM
Safwat Hijazi, member of the Muslim Brotherhood had this to say about the Bostom Marathon massacre. "One who did bombings Boston, he wrote his name in Paradise" ------------------
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Faith
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posted April 17, 2013 09:42 AM
Two wrongs don't make a right, you know?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 17, 2013 09:47 AM
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” NOTE nothing ------------------
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