posted April 18, 2013 12:49 PM            

Trust me, very soon we will see the flag of “There is no god but Allah” flying over the White House. They are already holding [Muslim] prayers in the White House.

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posted April 18, 2013 02:03 PM            

and still no excerpts to make sense of this one? doubtful there will be.

here we are, since it's apparently too difficult for ami to post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3009512/posts

so some sheikh in egypt thinks islam will take over the us, and states it as prophecy/fact that it will happen. what is strange about this kind of chauvinism and why would anyone take it as gospel or indicative of what is going on in the white house or elsewhere in america?

because those who want to scare themselves and others silly will believe ANY one who echoes what they want to hear, ie that obama is the infidel incarnate.

posted April 18, 2013 08:18 PM            

It is too bad you do not support one of the best KF's to ever grace these boards with equal fervor.

Juni is also one of your moderators, yet I have never seen you defend her against the unwarranted, spiteful attacks.

I only recently started reading in DD. I choose to stay away from AA threads, in fact for over a year I didn't open them. Lately I have been reading all of them.

posted April 18, 2013 08:37 PM            

Thank you

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posted April 18, 2013 09:30 PM            

If his own country, the men and women in that religious order, the rest of the world and a vast majority of Arabs and Muslims abroad, all look at this man like a 6 headed dragon in a tutu because he is that fantastical, why the heck would you give any weight to what he has to say?

Seriously, if you want to find actual "respected" extremists of Arab or Muslim affiliation, you could do way better than this nutbar.

Have you followed his trek through infamy? See all the other craziness that weirdo has imagined up? (Reading through GU2 here, no offense anyone... but I think we have the Yin to his Yang here somewhere.) He knows nothing about X people but still talks like he does, he likes to hear himself talk, he likes attention, he craves it like a starving animal... (Is there anyone here like that, perchance?)

My background is in Egyptology. I studied Egyptian Arabic for the better part of my life. I haven't studied linguistics of this region in the last few years, but what I remember from my academic years still suffices for basic conversation. I do not like the political environment in Egypt right now, they are in the middle of a lot of revolution, but the people... the every day people are nothing like the political and religious figures you will hear about in the media. Are all US Americans the same as our political leaders that are portrayed int he media?

Secondly, I see no problem with Islamic prayer in the White House. (For the record, just stating this here to be clear, I am a Constitutionalist, albeit I have small differences on small issues to the main party.) And, I've yet to see a flag with so many words on it. Now, maybe Allah hu akbar~ But, again... that is very simply put, "God is great". But, our country has since Puritan times held similar pledges. Anyway, they could fly a clown-faced flag over the White House and it wouldn't make any difference to me. USA is still USA, and will always be USA... regardless of flags, which do change from time to time anyway...

If you mean to say, you believe somehow that an Arabic or Muslim government will one day sit in the white house... sure, why not? If you mean they will take over America... with the population, just in America over 300 billion, it would take every bit of the population of the Middle East/North Africa to match us man for man (man-woman for man-woman). And it would require them all uniting for that one purpose. USA, is already united, and we're not looking at our allies at all here... I don't know what would make someone think every Muslim would want to conquer the White house or the US, or the world... even in history, conquering nations for territory, for economy, or for religion, it's always been the minority pushing for that expansion.
Most of these (Middle Eastern) countries are currently undergoing some level of revolution, evolution, and really - they're just catching up with the rest of the world, not because of the politics, but because that is what the people want. On a political level and on a religious level, the media you watch may be showing only one side of that turmoil/upheaval. But, there are plenty of other resources online, on book shelves that show what is going on behind stage, what the audience abroad, from that region/religion or not are really seeing, what they're saying, what we don't hear are those voices... not because they aren't speaking out either. People are just often too lazy to look for those things on their own. Going with mainstream media... you'll only get a tiny portion of the big picture. If you do not look any further... ~shrug~ look at Abu Islam... and his crazy brothers...

He has offended both nonMuslims and Muslims alike with his epic ignorance. :/

Eventually, the other nations of the world will likely change drastically, abandoning not all, but many of those old prejudices and stale systems of governance/law. The Middle East is just taking a great deal longer, but with due respect, civilization, human history there... goes back a very, very, very long time. That's a lot of tradition, a lot of roots, and weeding to free themselves from those "old ways", the only thing holding them back from progress and assimilating into modern living, are those in power, who have already embraced the corrupt benefits of adopting a modern hierarchy where only they come out on top. Give it time... the people are already growing impatient and disgusted and demanding for reforms and rights they were denied for so long. United States were very similar in our infancy... progress takes time. We as a county still have a large number of people who cling like ivy to old traditions and prejudices... we need to have patience and show some faith in our fellow man. (my feelings)

<3 tc <3

Oh, Node~ I'm the same way of these lower regions of the board... I'm weary of jumping into anything in DD and even here really~ I've said it since I joined... everything seems to hostile. I love the message of Global Unity, and Divine Diversity... believe me I do. And, there are so many times that I wish I could join a discussion or respond to a topic, but just shy away... I don't like debating, and even more dislike all out feuding... it distracts from that actual message of the subforum. I like everyone here so much too, so I don't want to step on toes... we're all human! I do wish some areas of the forum were a little more "true" to the message/tags in the topic identifying descriptions beneath them though. >.<;

blind hatred and warped rhetoric usually make me turn the other cheek though. There is an often misinterpreted verse in the bible that reads along the same lines that Twain was quoted as stating, something like "Do not argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience." - The biblical verse, proverbs, if my memory holds, "do not answer a fool to his folly, lest you also be like him" - you can't argue the ignorance out of someone. They have to effort to be open to enlightenment first. Ignorant people are by their nature fools, fools are stubborn. I'm no sage... but, I will listen and ponder what I hear or read to no end... I can be foolish, I can be stubborn... not both at once, and not all the time. >.<; So it's better to leave those disputers to argue with themselves. ~ proverbs "If a wise person goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace." I'm just glad to know I'm not the only one who treads lightly around certain areas...

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posted April 18, 2013 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:
Way to ignore the jist of the post, good job.

It is too bad you do not support one of the best KF's to ever grace these boards with equal fervor.

Juni is also one of your moderators, yet I have never seen you defend her against the unwarranted, spiteful attacks.

I only recently started reading in DD. I choose to stay away from AA threads, in fact for over a year I didn't open them. Lately I have been reading all of them.

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posted April 19, 2013 06:38 AM            

You are missing the point. And refusing to see the truth.

whatever

posted April 19, 2013 12:57 PM            

limited knowledge is one thing. smug manipulation of gossip and outright insulting of other members doesn't really fall into that category.

posted April 19, 2013 05:42 PM            

I hardly belied in karma until I have seen lots of people destroy themselves or indirectly pay the the consequences of there erroneous ways.

We all have other things going on in are lives, at least I hope so, to care what another person on the web thinks.

posted April 19, 2013 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
i.m sorry, it is nice to be charitable but someone who starts posts saying "jwhop COME SAVE ME FROM THESE PEOPLE" is the PERFECT example of trolling. it is meant to do nothing but PUT DOWN the other posters here, and at the same time POSE AS THE VICTIM in order to provoke people and hopefully make all the topics about oneself

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