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juniperb
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posted April 21, 2013 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Chechen Republic's president Ramzan Kadyrov even released an interesting statement about the two suspects, saying "it is evident that special services needed to calm society by any means possible."

The president, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, also wrote: "Any attempt to draw a connection between Chechnya and Tsarnaevs -- if they are guilty -- is futile."

Here's Smith's take on the seemingly paranoid and conspiratorial comments that were coming from Chechens Friday:

This may sound paranoid. But paranoids can have real enemies. And you don't have to be crazy to believe Chechen allegations of baroque and brutal government conspiracies -- at least, not when they're directed at the Russian government.

Reasonable people have directed truly horrendous allegations at President Vladimir Putin and his security services.The former Washington Post reporter David Satter argued convincingly in his 2003 book on Russia, Darkness At Dawn, that the Russian government had directed deadly and incomprehensible bombings of Russian apartment buildings in 1999, which killed 300 people -- to justify a new invasion of Chechnya, and to speed Putin's rise.

"They are ascribing to America things that are familiar to them at home," Satter told BuzzFeed Friday, of the sort of incident that fringe lunatics in the United States claim as "false flag" attacks, and that Russians call "provocations." "It's not surprising that people have reacted that way."

rest here>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/could-why-chechens-think-tsarnaev-brothers-were-framed-230423819.html

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NativelyJoan
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posted April 21, 2013 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NativelyJoan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Chechen President doth protest too much, me thinks.

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Randall
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posted April 21, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha! What NJ said.

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katatonic
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posted April 21, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if the chechen president is an "ally of putin's" i think the correct word would be probably PUPPET.. ie .he must have been PUT there by putin. the chechens have no reason to love russia and the way putin dealt/deals with them can create no love for him from them...

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juniperb
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posted April 23, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"They are ascribing to America things that are familiar to them at home," Satter told BuzzFeed Friday, of the sort of incident that fringe lunatics in the United States claim as "false flag" attacks, and that Russians call "provocations." "It's not surprising that people have reacted that way."

Psycological projection anyone ^ . Indeed puppet is a good description.

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posted April 23, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the russian connection is really interesting, actually.

these people came to the us as asylum refugees from russia...

and at some point in the last 4 years the father, a mechanic married to a facialist, started travelling back and forth to xxxistan...which is a very expensive trip with heavy immigration security by the way...

and the older son spent six months in russia last year AFTER the russians had encouraged the fbi to interview him as a security risk of some kind...

and the father basically lives over there and can afford a lot of air travel.

today i heard (from randi rhodes, who is the LEAST conspiracy-theory tolerant talk show host i know of!) that we have registered a human rights complaint against russia, and that one of the members of the committee who drew up this complaint is a senator from massachussetts...

makes you wonder...is islam THE red herring of choice these days?

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