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Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2013 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

AUTHOR Warner Todd Huston

May 31, 2013 4:54pm PST

You may not be aware of this but many of the employees of the IRS are allowed to walk around armed. In fact, nearly 3,000 IRS agents apparently have a license to kill–after all, the right to be armed means the right to use that weapon.

As Obama’s welfare state grows, so does his armed security state. In fact, it is getting so ubiquitous for government employees to be allowed to be armed where ever they go, it might be easier to list those officials that can’t tote a gun where the rest of us are banned from doing so. (That is sarcasm, for those unaccustomed)

Only a few years ago, the IRS ordered another shipment of Remington Shotguns to go with the many other orders of firearms they’ve gotten over the years. The IRS has a regular arsenal of weapons and also has SWAT-styled attack teams under its wing. A government procurement website recently posted a quote for 60 Remington Model 870 Police 12-gauge pump-action shotguns supposedly for the IRS Criminal Investigation Division, 0r IRS-CID.

But according to one report by J. Russell George, the Treasury Department’s inspector general, the IRS had 11 accidental firings of those weapons between 2009 and 2011. So, just who are these heavily armed, accident-prone agents protecting?

With all the scandals about the IRS misusing its powers to attack Americans that just happen to be conservative and oppose Obama’s power grabs, can we in any way assume we are safe from these para military “tax men”?

Add this to the fact that the Department of Homeland Security has ordered thousands of guns, truck, armored vehicles, as well as a billion rounds of ammunition, and we see a wild growth in the police state.

So, should it surprise anyone that the Department of Defense has suddenly decided that it doesn’t need any permission from Congress or local governments to spring into military action against American civilians?

Radio Host Mark Levin recently talked about how the IRS is violating the Constitution and asked why so many of them are armed.

Rep. Tom Graves, (R-Ga) also recently noted that the IRS has lost its trustworthiness. “The fact is the trust in the IRS is gone. The American people have lost trust in this organization and rightfully so,” he said.

With all this intimidation and stormtrooper tactics it is no wonder that 48% of Americans polled think Obama could be impeached for the IRS scandal.
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/18208-3000-irs-agents-have-weapon s-licenses-60-to-carry-shotguns/

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Randall
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posted June 01, 2013 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is actually illegal for an IRS agent to carry firearms. According to Title 26 (the tax code and the administrative law for the IRS), only the special division within the IRS that investigates alcohol and tobacco is authorized to carry them. Not even field agents can carry a forearm (legally). That's why they bring along local law-enfoecement officers with them when they seize property. Just more fear and intimidation from the true organized crime in this country--the only collection agency allowed to put you in jail--the IRS.

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posted June 01, 2013 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
It is actually illegal for an IRS agent to carry firearms. According to Title 26 (the tax code and the administrative law for the IRS), only the special division within the IRS that investigates alcohol and tobacco is authorized to carry them. Not even field agents can carry a forearm (legally). That's why they bring along local law-enfoecement officers with them when they seize property. Just more fear and intimidation from the true organized crime in this country--the only collection agency allowed to put you in jail--the IRS.

Arent IRS agents at time face risks to their health by angry people?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
It is actually illegal for an IRS agent to carry firearms. According to Title 26 (the tax code and the administrative law for the IRS), only the special division within the IRS that investigates alcohol and tobacco is authorized to carry them. Not even field agents can carry a forearm (legally). That's why they bring along local law-enfoecement officers with them when they seize property. Just more fear and intimidation from the true organized crime in this country--the only collection agency allowed to put you in jail--the IRS.


Obama watches people die in Benghazi in REAL time. He drops drones on people. He has the IRS go after political opponents. With EACH step, he grabs more power. If he is not stopped, we will have tyranny but I think we are too late and have it now

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posted June 01, 2013 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some might think so, DL, but they have law-enforcement agents accompany them in the field.

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posted June 01, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Some might think so, DL, but they have law-enforcement agents accompany them in the field.

At all times?

And some might be targeted at home...

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posted June 01, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The IRS under this president is much worse than in any time in history. All that is a huge factor in the importance of this issue of the IRS being armed. It is not an isolated happening. It has to be taken in context of a very untrustworthy IRS because of a president who has proven he is not trustworthy( to at least 50% of America, if not more)

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posted June 01, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
The IRS under this president is much worse than in any time in history. All that is a huge factor in the importance of this issue of the IRS being armed. It is not an isolated happening. It has to be taken in context of a very untrustworthy IRS because of a president who has proven he is not trustworthy( to at least 50% of America, if not more)


Well in a way its your fault for choosing him...

And you cant say 100% of IRS workers are evil, corrupt and so and so.....while many can still be targets of retribution.

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posted June 01, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Context is everything (as usual).

    About 2,700 of the agency's 100,000 employees are sworn law enforcement officers (known as special agents) and authorized to carry firearms, spokesman Eric Smith explained in an e-mail. They enforce selected criminal provisions of Titles 18, 26 and 31 of the US Code, domestic and international tax fraud violations and violations of the Bank Secrecy Act, among others.

    The agents occasionally execute and serve search or arrest warrants, thus the need to pack heat. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/02/yes_the_irs_buys_guns.html

You shouldn't have to visit a respected liberal source in order to get the facts on something. Your conservative sources should also provide the correct context.

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posted June 01, 2013 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And you cant say 100% of IRS workers are evil, corrupt and so and so.....while many can still be targets of retribution.

Exactly. The IRS doesn't hire on the basis of political leanings. It didn't suddenly become liberal when Obama came into office.

The cartoon I posted, which Ami and Randall seemed to get a kick out of, illustrated perfectly the cause of the so-called "scandal:" 503(c)(4) organizations are supposed to be operated for the general welfare of communities, and they need to have that as a focus. Applying for tax exempt status, which is unnecessary in the first place, whilst using a blatantly political name for your "social welfare" organization is rightly suspicious, and those people should be aware of what is required [under the law] to keep eligibility for tax exempt status. Democrats rightly want a review done of these organizations to ensure that they do meet the requirements of a 501(c)(4) organization under the law.

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