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Ami Anne
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posted June 17, 2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/15/8th-Grader-Suspended-Over-NRA-T-Shirt-Could-Get-Jail-Time

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posted June 18, 2013 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't the T-shirt so much as how he reacted when told that wearing it was against school rules.

I think his father is totally foolish, encouraging his son to challenge the system like that. If they feel that strongly against school rules, transfer to a private school or home school.

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posted June 18, 2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It wasn't the T-shirt so much as how he reacted when told that wearing it was against school rules.

I think his father is totally foolish, encouraging his son to challenge the system like that. If they feel that strongly against school rules, transfer to a private school or home school.


Indeed. School rules are in place for all kids all the time.

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posted June 18, 2013 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They quote the 1st Amendment, but you have no free speech in school. Still, I don't see why he can't wear a shirt that is clearly not disruptive.

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posted June 18, 2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
They quote the 1st Amendment, but you have no free speech in school. Still, I don't see why he can't wear a shirt that is clearly not disruptive.


Yes. I mean if the child had a gay pride T shirt, can you imagine the uproar is this happened to him.

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posted June 18, 2013 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me make a list of shirts that would be lauded.

1. Gay pride

2. Obama--Hope and Change *gag*

3. I support Abortion

4. Down with Chik-Filet


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posted June 18, 2013 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
It wasn't the T-shirt so much as how he reacted when told that wearing it was against school rules.

I think his father is totally foolish, encouraging his son to challenge the system like that. If they feel that strongly against school rules, transfer to a private school or home school.


While I agree with this overall, I still see no reason to have the police or courts involved over a kid wearing a shirt! If the school felt that strong about it they should've just expelled him, not called the cops or waste the prosecutor's time with this.

Though it's happened before. One boy was taken to jail for wearing his cap backwards which was seen as a possible gang sign (him being black in a white school in Arizona didn't help), and it was justified that if kids could wear their cap backwards without going to jail then they'd be wearing dead skin masks next (seriously, it was about that bad). And one kid even faced charges of "attempted terrorist threats" (how does one ATTEMPT a terrorist threat?) by writing a story of zombies attacking his school and those within having to use guns to defend themselves (including those who became zombies), and he was actually facing felony charges over it...

How can people not see the insanity of it?

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posted June 18, 2013 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Let me make a list of shirts that would be lauded.

1. Gay pride

2. Obama--Hope and Change *gag*

3. I support Abortion

4. Down with Chik-Filet



False.

When I was in high school not too terribly log ago, you'd have to turn your shirt inside our if it had any political or offensive messages on it.
Most schools (at least in my county) have only grown more (often ridiculously) cautious.

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posted June 19, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
While I agree with this overall, I still see no reason to have the police or courts involved over a kid wearing a shirt!

Typically the news wants to sensationalize things and will leave out key parts of the story. The video in the link Ami posted says that the boy "started a riot" in the lunch room when he was told to take off his shirt.

So were the police contacted about the shirt or the riot?

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posted June 19, 2013 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The goal of the public school system is to indoctrinate kids into society, i.e. brainwash them into submission. Those who resist get drugged. Rebels (leaders) are squelched. Inevitably, a few always rise above and become those who change society in some way for the greater good, despite the mass hypnosis schools impart.

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posted June 19, 2013 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The goal of the public school system is to indoctrinate kids into society, i.e. brainwash them into submission. Those who resist get drugged. Rebels (leaders) are squelched. Inevitably, a few always rise above and become those who change society in some way for the greater good, despite the mass hypnosis schools impart.

Well said, Randall. Too bad so few can see this

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posted June 19, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Let me make a list of shirts that would be lauded.

1. Gay pride

2. Obama--Hope and Change *gag*

3. I support Abortion

4. Down with Chik-Filet


And they should be (other than the second) since they support EQUALITY.

A word people tend to forget when they dont see their own rights being taken away...

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posted June 19, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
The goal of the public school system is to indoctrinate kids into society, i.e. brainwash them into submission. Those who resist get drugged. Rebels (leaders) are squelched. Inevitably, a few always rise above and become those who change society in some way for the greater good, despite the mass hypnosis schools impart.

The trick is to keep off-grid and pull little attention to yourself while keeping your ideas for future times.

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posted June 19, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
Typically the news wants to sensationalize things and will leave out key parts of the story. The video in the link Ami posted says that the boy "started a riot" in the lunch room when he was told to take off his shirt.

So were the police contacted about the shirt or the riot?


Good question (I hadn't seen the video before). Thing is, cops trump up charges all the time, so if you like are too startled to immediately get on the ground you can be charged with resisting arrest, throw a doughnut at a cop and it becomes a felony assault, etc. It really is too bad they didn't define what they mean by "something of a riot" (though one person can't riot, and if he'd inspired a riot there'd have been more arrests).

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posted June 19, 2013 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah journalism is such a joke nowadays. Most of the stories like this are full of holes.

As for the police, my understanding is that some will rough a person up for no good reason while hollering, "Stop resisting!" Lack of principle within police departments is depressing.

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