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Topic: Let's hope Randall's right
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Randall
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posted August 09, 2013 10:33 PM
  
You must have only skimmed what I wrote. I'm talking about exact temps, not climates. Of course, we can tell if it was warm or cold. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 10, 2013 12:03 AM
If every Celsius degree can give a climactic signature, then I don't think it would be very difficult. How much has temperature risen already? Less than two degrees Celsius, right? Do we see the sea level rising? Yes. That's one indicator. Are the ice sheets melting? Yes. That's another indicator. Are the glaciers retreating? Yes. That's another indicator. Has the Russian permafrost started melting? Yes. That's another indicator. Etc. Etc. It's all deductive reasoning.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2013 12:21 AM
I posted quite a bit of info on how sea levels haven't risen. It might be time to bump some threads. These are articles in scientific journals by credible researchers.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2013 12:37 AM
Regional temp differences are cyclical and have nothing to do with global climate change. And no, there hasn 't been two degrees in warming. Are you getting your facts from Al Gore's movie? We are not getting anywhere. We can just agree to disagree. I have posted journal articles to refute everything you said. You hold faith in two organizations that you adhere to, but there exists many journal articles that dissent. Neither of us is going to change the other one's mind. Your idols say we are all doomed. Mine say it's bs. I'm not scared. Time will tell who is right. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 10, 2013 02:58 AM
Sea levels have risen. Google will tell anyone that as will any of the myriad scientific bodies around the world.I never watched Al Gore's movie. I got the Celsius wrong. It's over one degree Fahrenheit, and less than a degree Celsius. 5/9ths of a degree Celsius is equal to one degree Fahrenheit, so having gone up .6 (6/10ths of a degree Celsius) is greater than a degree Fahrenheit (1 degree = 5/9 = .5555), so we're over one degree Fahrenheit...and all of this has happened as a result. That's how they're able to be exact to the degree. quote:
I have posted journal articles to refute everything you said.
I agree that you've posted stuff, a lot of stuff even, but none of it disproves the science behind global warming/climate change. quote:
You hold faith in two organizations that you adhere to, but there exists many journal articles that dissent.
No. I hold faith in 97% of the scientific body of the world's scientists. (I don't know where they got the 97% figure. It could be higher for all I know. They've got lists of scientific organizations that back the prevalent "theory".) There's a big difference. I don't "idolize" these people. (I'm not generally prone to idolizing people) I merely believe that they have no interest in deceiving any of us. Like I've said before, I don't buy your money conspiracy for a second. quote:
Time will tell who is right.
Exactly, and that's why I hope that you're right. In the event that you are right, I doubt any scientist you've cited will be vindicated scientifically. I would bet that they had it as wrong as anyone betting on the other side. The mitigating force would have to be outside of the scope of current understanding. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 10, 2013 03:10 PM
Agreed about the just over one degree. But not agreed about it causing anything. Globally, we could have gone down two degrees, and what happened would have still happened.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 10:53 AM
Sea levels haven't risen. That's media hype. I posted numerous journal articles on one of the other global warming threads about how the oceanic markers show no increase. These once good-intended climatologists are now crossing the line from scientists to fear-mongering fraudsters.IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows
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posted August 31, 2013 11:36 AM
look at me coming to this thread without even knowing what it is mostly about hahahAl Gore movie, remember that iceberg falling from the 'Perito Moreno Galcier' <-that is its name ....well that is a famous tourist attraction in Argentina, and that fall, it is famous that it happens once every 4 years, since i guess the country was founded. HOWEVER you cannot deny that a lot of pollution is happening. I know fish isn't what it used to be when i was a kid, with all the mercury from leaks here and there affecting it. The Amazon is almost gone (i know that Brazilian mentality of 'well there is a lot of it) but truth is not when it isn't being replanted)...and scr*w that Belo Monte Dam but this over heating of the world is very normal for Earth, it's just at that point in it's cycle. the reason for fear mongering, it those people at the top the illudarkati, whenever they want the masses to do there work for there reason, they start doing things like suddenly caring about the environment, even if it's there own companies who causes oil spills and desertification here and there. so no it's not our fault what is happening with the weather, it is natural. But also yes, some people's actions aren't making things any better at all... okay felt good standing on a soapbox, now what was the subject of this conversation again? :P IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 31, 2013 12:46 PM
Yep, I guess Gore didn't know that--or else he lied about it. But yes, I agree about pollution.IP: Logged |
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