posted August 22, 2013 01:34 PM            

Holy crud that would be scary.

posted August 22, 2013 02:33 PM            

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posted August 22, 2013 08:54 PM            

But many seem to think that being President is like being an absolute monarch. If you were to stretch your imagination and even humor me, how would you be an effective President?

Ideas to consider: you can't enact any actual laws or hire dept heads or judges without Congress cooperation. Kennedy had this problem and a lot of his successes were actually achieved through the political clout of his VP. Obama has this problem too. As did GW for a lot of his term.

Yet we say the president is the problem if things don't go our way, going so far as to forget all the different interests vying for place and preference.

posted August 23, 2013 05:23 AM            

Being President of this country is like being President of some slimy corporation like Goldman Sachs or something. You have to go into the job with your EYES WIDE OPEN. As President of this country, you would already know what's expected of you from the powers that be, and what the danger would be in opposing them, right from the beginning of your first term.

If the position were forced on me, I would call for a live press conference, expose as many destructive lies as I could, and let the jerks come for me.

Kennedy was a good man. He was honorable at the expense of his life. Obama is a non-stop liar. I have no interest in making excuses for him, I have no interest in this fairy tale myth that behind it all, he actually means to fulfil his campaign promises. Please, give me a BREAK! I could tell, plain as day, that he would be nothing but a suck-up to the Establishment from day one, that's why I didn't vote for him. His deceit was obvious if you knew where to look.

I wish you would stop insisting that we consider what a tight spot he's in. I flat-out have no interest in it. It's like you are proselytizing about Jesus, only it's Obama. I agree with the comment that Randall made that prompted you to leave before: you act like you have a school girl crush on the President.

Which is fine...hey, I have a crush on Ron Paul!...but I don't make defending RP my whole M.O. I'm not asking anyone here to reconsider Ron Paul. It would be annoying if I constantly took that angle, when I know that no one else here actually wants to hear it.

posted August 23, 2013 11:10 AM            

Kennedy was a good man, yes...but did you even look @ the Chomsky piece I posted? He wasn't honest enough to say "I am going after the crooks, robbers and murderers who swung the election for me"..did he? Nor was he immune to the military power garbage that has been practiced by every President since, at least, Wilson.

I ask questions of those that see Obama (and others) more as cardboard devils and angels - they tend to be more complex than that, and I really don't think any of us really know what is going on in their heads.

But apparently you do, so you see my prodding as hero worship because you don't seem to have any middle ground or leeway in the ideas you have decided are better than the line you used to buy?

posted August 23, 2013 12:47 PM            

I'm not sure what I would do either.

On the one hand, I think some people think it simply requires a great negotiator. I think that could be true sometimes, but not when there are people present whose sole intent is to be stubborn.

That's the thing. Some people go to Congress to try to help. Those are the ones that might be open to negotiation. Other people go to Congress to try to play politics. Those are the ones that think they're tearing down the other party when they act uncooperative.

Likewise, constituents are divided. Some want a President who will put party aside for the greater good, while others want the President to deliver the death blow to the other party.

posted August 23, 2013 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I'd go to Area 51 and set all of the aliens free.

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That would be cool

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posted August 23, 2013 04:44 PM            

Your remarks about what caused me to leave are way off base and a good illustration of what I'm trying to get at here. Fir the record as I recall that remark was made by Randall in a different thread but it doesn't matter WHAT he said. I left for several reasons but what reallt frustrated me that moment was that somwone had time to repeatedly assert that I had said something ut begged lack of time when I asked him to go back and point out where. However it was just a "last straw" situation after months of arguments that seemed ti go nowhere with no purpose except to assume "rightness".

Also, as I've already said, I got tired of the name katatonic long ago.

And I think the remarls made by a certain member who always claims to be "gentle" - when I wasn't here to defend myself - might point to another reason I chose to walk away.

The fact that you have erroneously explained to yourself why I, whom you have at least conversed with, do what I do, might show you how little you REALLY KNOE what Obama - or any public figure - THINKS.

posted August 23, 2013 05:23 PM            

I have seen all sorts of people sneak back on here as different people just to be part of this great vibe which is LL.

I am not saying that you did this, but Welcome Back

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