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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2013 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember when Obama campaigned on the promise that he’d maintain the “most transparent administration in history?” Another lie, what a surprise.

On Aug. 30, the U.S. Court of Appeals ruled in a 3-0 decision that the Freedom of Information Act does not require Pres. Barack Obama to release the White House visitor log. The decision allows Obama to keep the log classified for a period of 12 years.

But Americans are furious over yet another attempt to cover up Executive branch activities.

“A president that doesn’t want Americans, under law, to know who his visitors are is a president who doesn’t want to be accountable,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. He also mentioned that Judicial Watch is “strongly considering” appealing the court’s decision.

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posted September 02, 2013 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the Caps in the title. I copied it that way.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2013 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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“A president that doesn’t want Americans, under law, to know who his visitors are is a president who doesn’t want to be accountable,” Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said.

Reminds me of the secret meetings Dick Cheney used to have.

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posted September 03, 2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG
You can never admit anything.

The denseness is mind boggling. It is like talking to a literal brick wall.

I don't think I have ever talked to someone who has this level of density before.

I am sure I have but I can't remember

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2013 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can admit stuff. What are you talking about?

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The denseness is mind boggling. It is like talking to a literal brick wall.

That's how it is dealing with any of you conservatives here, if you hadn't noticed.

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I don't think I have ever talked to someone who has this level of density before.

I am sure I have but I can't remember


I'm certain you have...not only in people here, but also just talking to yourself as you go about your day. You seriously have NO comprehension of how you come off.

What would you like me to admit? Make sure that it's something factual, and I'll have no trouble admitting it. In fact, let's take it a step further. Let's trade admissions. I'll admit to something that's factually true from your side, and in return you'll do the same. This would be a whole new chapter in GU.

Since we're in this thread, I'll admit that Obama's administration isn't nearly as transparent as he had apparently hoped it would be. It's not. It's communicative to a degree, but otherwise it's similarly as secret as the previous administration even more so by some measurements (FOIA requests would be one).

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Randall
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posted September 03, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the same Obama who praised the FOIA and strongly defended it while running for office, but who now wants to dismantle it.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2013 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I can support the premise that he's out to dismantle it. That seems a little overblown.

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Randall
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posted September 03, 2013 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in 2009, Obama said that: "A democracy requires accountability, and accountability requires transparency," and he went on to expound how that the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) encouraged both. This law came into existance after Watergate. Not surprisingly, President Ford (on the advice of his Chief of Staff, Donald Rumsfield, and Rumsfield's Deputy, Dick Cheney--yes, these dinosaurs have been in government that long) vetoed it, but Congress voted to override the veto. But on October 30, 2011 Obama proposed making changes to the FOIA. The changes included the government's right to not only deny any requested documents but to also pretend those documents do not even exist!

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posted September 03, 2013 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was a proposed rule change (based on a Reagan design), not a dismantling of the institution.
http://www.govexec.com/oversight/2011/11/justice-rethinks-planned-changes-to-foia-policy/35352/

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posted September 03, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't think that rule change dismantles it? It renders it virtually ineffective at doing what it was intended for. They would be able to deny the request and even lie about the documents existing! And coming from a supposed pro-transparency president.

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posted September 03, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the particulars of the suggested rule. I know that it was based on a Reagan idea that information that could help criminals ought not be released.

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