posted September 03, 2013 01:59 PM            

And be careful, I have merlin conj sun if you don't start being honest I may have to poof you! Asc (appearances) can be deceiving, don't you think?

posted September 03, 2013 02:12 PM            

There is no connection whatsoever between the stock market, stock market investors and the US Social Security System.

Ever dollar withheld from individuals goes directly into the General Fund to pay the bills for all government expenditures.

Oh god, tell me you're not one of people who believe the government invests Social Security receipts in the stock market...or that there are individual accounts stuffed away in banks awaiting individual retirements.

posted September 03, 2013 02:15 PM            

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That puts Eris, at 9 Aries, conj your DC as I said. Thank you. Now perhaps you can start the journey to OWNING your Eris instead of pointing the finger at others'

And be careful, I have merlin conj sun if you don't start being honest I may have to poof you! Asc (appearances) can be deceiving, don't you think?

Anyway I am tired of carrying your projections. Blessings to you my dear.

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posted September 03, 2013 02:39 PM            

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There is no connection whatsoever between the stock market, stock market investors and the US Social Security System.

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That's not what I said, is it?

When conservatives talk about privatizing Social Security, what do you think they're talking about?

They're talking about individual investment accounts. Don't individual retirement investment accounts generally invest in the stock market? Yes, they do. Now why would conservative advocate for such a system if it wasn't an effective means of spreading the wealth around?

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Oh and stop trying to change the subject from "investors" to "Republicans"; some of whom want SS funds invested to pay a higher return to retirees.

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posted September 03, 2013 04:39 PM            

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Eris has replaced Pluto as a planet. 3 degrees is not far at all.

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You are dying for Eris to be on my DSC. Actually, it would be pretty funny. I do see it in everyone

PS Wait till Shura gets a hold of this.

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posted September 04, 2013 06:15 PM            

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I don't care where your Eris is, Ami, except your obsession with others' indicates lack of self-knowledge and explains a lot about you. That you say it "would be funny" as if it weren't just made plain to you...well maybe you are pretending with your chart too, but if that is a correct one, there's no "would be" about it. Which is it? Have you faked your chart or is Eris on your DC? Pretty easy even for those who are allergic to research!

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posted September 04, 2013 08:43 PM            

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Interesting response. Truth is love, remember?

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It is not about me. I am transparent about myself.

You seem like a very angry person.

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posted September 04, 2013 10:05 PM            

There's lots of investment vehicles which do not encompass the stock markets acoustic.

Don't attempt to bootstrap you nonsense agruments.

Now acoustic, let's see your proof that conservatives favor investing Social Security funds into the stock market.

The stock market is only one of many investment vehicles available.

I'll wait right here waiting for you to prove your nonsense.

posted September 04, 2013 10:23 PM            

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There's lots of investment vehicles which do not encompass the stock markets acoustic.

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But most retirement investment vehicles do include the stock market. I don't know what you mean by bootstrapping an argument, but I assure that's not the least bit necessary with this argument.

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Now acoustic, let's see your proof that conservatives favor investing Social Security funds into the stock market.

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posted September 04, 2013 10:39 PM            

I see you avoided providing the proof I requested. That's typical for you acoustic.

Put up or shut up!

Who...exactly is pushing for investing Social Security funds in the US stock market?

Oh, but if they were, it's important to record that over the last 100 years, the US stock market has returned about 9% on invested capital.

So acoustic, tell us what the Social Security funds have returned on investment for the last 75 years?

posted September 04, 2013 10:51 PM            

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Who...exactly is pushing for investing Social Security funds in the US stock market?

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Every Conservative in modern times that has suggested privatizing Social Security. Don't tell me you're that out of touch.

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Social Security receipts go directly into the "general fund" to finance all functions of the federal government.

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We're not talking about what Social Security is. We're talking about the stock market being the best vehicle of wealth redistribution.

In the United States in the late 1990s, privatization found advocates who complained that U.S. workers, paying compulsory payroll taxes into Social Security, were missing out on the high rates of return of the U.S. stock market (the Dow averaged 5.3% compounded annually for the 20th century[43]). They likened their proposed "Private Retirement Accounts" (PRAs) to the popular Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and 401(k) savings plans. But in the meantime, several conservative and libertarian organizations that considered it a crucial issue, such as the Heritage Foundation and Cato Institute, continued to lobby for some form of Social Security privatization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_debate_in_the_United_States#P ro-privatization_arguments

More reading: http://www.heritage.org/research/te stimony/2012/04/pursuing-universal-retirement-security-through-automatic-iras-and-account-simplification
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/still-better-deal-pri vate-investment-vs-social-security

Surely I'm not more versed in Conservative ideology than you, right?

posted September 05, 2013 10:35 PM            

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But privatizing Social Security could take many forms and not necessarily investing the Social Security Trust Fund in the US stock market.

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Just because it could take many forms doesn't make me wrong. They specifically liken their idea to 401ks and IRAs. Most 401ks and IRAs contain stock investment. I gave you plenty of material to read. Are you punting as you like to say?

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So, is this the best you can do...making a general allegation instead of pinpointing specific plans you say Republicans wish to adopt?

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posted September 06, 2013 12:46 AM            

If you can't back it up with credible sources then, just say so...and I don't mean a random statement by one (1) Republican.

Now acoustic, I'm going to teach you 2 new words which could bear on investing SS funds.

Annuity
Perpetuity

Oh, have you deciphered the word Must...yet?

posted September 06, 2013 08:11 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
You were challenged on your nonsense acoustic. You're the one who made the asinine remark about Republicans wanting to invest SS funds in the stock market.

If you can't back it up with credible sources then, just say so...and I don't mean a random statement by one (1) Republican.

Now acoustic, I'm going to teach you 2 new words which could bear on investing SS funds.

[b]Annuity
Perpetuity

Oh, have you deciphered the word Must...yet?

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posted September 06, 2013 01:05 PM            

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You're the one who made the asinine remark about Republicans wanting to invest SS funds in the stock market.

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It was far from asinine. It was the truth, and continues to be the truth. I even went the extra unimportant step of giving you links to something you could have easily established for yourself if you had only paid attention to your own party.

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If you can't back it up with credible sources then, just say so...and I don't mean a random statement by one (1) Republican.

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So you're saying that the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute aren't conservative think tanks? You're additionally saying that George W. Bush's Social Security privatization plan didn't include the stock market? Really?

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Annuity
Perpetuity

Oh, have you deciphered the word Must...yet?

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Gotta love the posturing after getting your ass handed to you. Let me ask you this, are you ever going to endeavor to disprove me on this? I think we both know you can't. If you're not convinced, then you better get on it, because NO Republican plan for Social Security privatization in modern times has excluded, nor wanted to exclude the stock market.

posted September 07, 2013 12:19 AM            

If "nonsense" was part of the class curriculum, you'd be getting a A.

"So you're saying that the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute aren't conservative think tanks?"...acoustic

"Testifying about a similar proposal by the Clinton Administration to invest part of the Social Security trust fund in the stock market, Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan warned that such an approach would make it almost impossible to insulate investment decisions from political interference. In short, H.R. 4844's few good features are not enough to repair the problems it would create. The bill would:"
The Heritage Foundation

"A Dangerous Investment Scheme.
H.R. 4844 would create a Railroad Retirement Investment Trust for investing the assets of the Railroad Retirement Board--estimated at $18.5 billion in December 2000--in private stocks and bonds. Though the board managing this investment would be nominally independent, the assets in the trust would be under the control of political appointees and government bureaucrats. Giving bureaucrats the power to invest huge amounts of money in the stock market would create a fundamental conflict of interest between the long-term needs of future retirees and short-term political goals. If this model were extended to Social Security's trust funds, the door would open for government ownership of a significant portion of the economy."
The Heritage Foundation http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2000/10/railroad-reti rement-investment-threatens-social-security-reform

Now acoustic, what was that you were saying about the Heritage Foundation floating a plan to invest SS funds in the stock market?

Btw, the Cato Institute is not a conservate shop. The Cato Institute is a Libertarian think tank.

posted September 07, 2013 07:00 AM            

You're embarrassing yourself acoustic...again.

Ha ha

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posted September 07, 2013 08:33 AM            

I will tell you. I don't know HOW you put up with these people

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