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NeedSpeed
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posted September 12, 2013 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I watched the Big Red One several months ago and during one scene, a German soldier told the captured American sergeant "How can a nation of selfish pleasure-loving weaklings produce such a fine soldier like you?"

This reminds me of the image the world had of the American military before World War 2. During World War 1, the European forces-including the French and British who were allied with the Americans-all laughed at the American forces. Even the most pro-American French and British soldiers doubted the American soldier could have the iron discipline to endure the brutal trench warfare. The Germans thought they were going to WIN for sure and even with American aid, the war would be a pushover because the French and British were close to cracking and they didn't need to worry about Russia assaulting the Eastern borders. The German military believed the American forces would be a cake walk...........

HOW WRONG THEY WERE!!!! The marines would defend a French forest so aggressively that they earned the nick name devil dogs and the French respected the U.S.M.C. Elsewhere German soldiers attempted to overrun the trenches but American soldiers pushed off assault after assault including those by elite Storm Troopers.

Despite showing their capabilities in war, Europeans and the world as a whole still underestimated the American military......... In World War 2, a big reason why the Japanese decided to attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against America is because they thought Americans were a nation of spoiled self-centered pleasure-loving weaklings with no backbone..... Hitler held the same opinion and this was way he declared war on the US because he felt there was no way the Americans would be able to concentrate on going the offensive on Germany while having to defend its territory against Japan..... Even the British and defeated French doubted America's ability.

The rest as we all know is history. Japan would learn just how powerful America's might was and several Japanese officers praised the Americans as having the same courage and warrior spirit as the Samurai. Against impossible odds early in the war, Americans were able to stop the Japanese offensive and turn the tide. Prior to D-Day, German soldiers in North Africa began to already see just how disciplined the American soldier can be. The 82nd Airborne had earned the reputation as "devils in baggy pants". The American paratroopers as a whole became a force that stroke fear in the hearts of battle-hardened German soldiers during Airborne operations. George S. Patton was very chiefly one of the primary concern by the German high command. Even Hitler began to respect the American soldier and regret his decision of declaring war.

Today the United States is one of the most feared military powers in the world and even the Western superpowers are anxious to engage in war with the U.S. But reading of how the world view the American military, I am truly surprised even after the valiant effort in World War 1 the world still held American soldiers in contempt. Why did it take until Post-World War 2 for the world to finally respect and even fear America's military might? Where did the stigma come that the American soldier was a hedonists?I understand the criticism on American society because on the surface it looked that way with US's high standards of living at the time. But it ignores the fact that one of the key traits to America's spirit is RUGGED INDIVIDUALISM. Sure Americans love having a great time but who wouldn't with such luxuries available? American culture up until World War 2 believed accepting welfare was to be looked down upon and a social taboo and they believed a real man was one who could make it out on his own success through hardwork. American factories had a reputation as grueling hazardous workplaces and during that time the bulk of American population worked in menial labor.

I mean Americans had already proved their ability in World War 1. In addition, America had a reputation of being a place where only the strong motivated industrious man could hope to survive. So I cannot comprehend why the Axis of Powers and even the Allies completely underestimated America's ability in WAR!!!!

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posted September 12, 2013 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are you doing?
War ***** up the world you **** , why would you join the military to fight your country and **** up the world when you can fight for the world and say **** war,

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posted September 12, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
******* Maggot, america are corrupted against the world, western civilzation is in denial of the earth you stupid s.o.b

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posted September 12, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
******* Maggot, america are corrupted against the world, western civilzation is in denial of the earth you dumb mofo! !!!!

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posted September 12, 2013 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, as we're coming to the dawn of the aquarian age, war will go out the window, merging into a one world goverment will be the next step. Advancing in the intelligence of Uranus will have us join Technology + spirituality together and astrology is going to come back into the world as truth.
Barrack Obama actually represents the Aquarian starseed to some extent
Open your eyes

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posted September 12, 2013 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ He is a troll.

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posted September 12, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ He is a troll.

I gathered haha

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posted September 12, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let him enjoy his time here haha.

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posted September 12, 2013 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Let him enjoy his time here haha.

It's the only thing that can be done

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posted September 12, 2013 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find these threads by this guy funny. *Starts eating popcorn* Good troll though.

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posted September 12, 2013 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I find these threads by this guy funny. *Starts eating popcorn* Good troll though.

I want to come through his computer screen like the girl from the ring...

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NeedSpeed
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ He is a troll.

I told you in other sites I AM NOT PISCEAN at all in my posts and my personality. In fact in the Lord of the Rings fandom and History communities I post in online, I don't even act Scorpionic or Aquarius.

People in Lord of the Rings forums and online history communities I got to who are familiar with astrology describe me as being Libran instead.

[B]IN FACT THAT IS WHY I MADE THIS THREAD MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218484.html


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posted September 12, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NeedSpeed:
I told you in other sites [b] I AM NOT PISCEAN at all in my posts and my personality. In fact in the Lord of the Rings fandom and History communities I post in online, I don't even act Scorpionic or Aquarius.

People in Lord of the Rings forums and online history communities I got to who are familiar with astrology describe me as being Libran instead.

[B]IN FACT THAT IS WHY I MADE THIS THREAD MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218484.html

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Put your chart up and let me see

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posted September 12, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Put your chart up and let me see

You might be struggling with some sort of illness ... down syndrome etc.

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posted September 12, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeedSpeed:
I told you in other sites [b] I AM NOT PISCEAN at all in my posts and my personality. In fact in the Lord of the Rings fandom and History communities I post in online, I don't even act Scorpionic or Aquarius.

People in Lord of the Rings forums and online history communities I got to who are familiar with astrology describe me as being Libran instead.

[B]IN FACT THAT IS WHY I MADE THIS THREAD MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/218484.html

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I heard Aries types are prone to trolling.

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posted September 12, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
You might be struggling with some sort of illness ... down syndrome etc.

How would having the Down syndrome be in any way associated with this trollish behaviour, please?

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posted September 12, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How would having the Down syndrome be in any way associated with this trollish behaviour, please?


It doesn't. That was an insensitive remark and I am sure PF was just not thinking when he made it, Ceri.

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posted September 12, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was no way intended as anything towards people with down-syndrome!
I actually feel obliged to help people with this when i see them
It was purely just a remark at the troller because he was being a ****, the only reason i used it because it did work quite well as an insult(no offence ment again...), but i am young, forgive me

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posted September 12, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It doesn't. That was an insensitive remark and I am sure PF was just not thinking when he made it, Ceri.


Yes, I hope so.

My reaction to it was a reflex. I am just too used to be in "protective mode" I think.
Thanks for pointing it out to me, Ami.

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posted September 12, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
It was no way intended as anything towards people with that unfortuante illness!
It was purely just a remark at the troller because he was being a ****, the only reason i used it because it did work quite well as an insult(no offence ment again...), but i am young, forgive me

I know. Ceri has talked about her brother who has Downs

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posted September 12, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome, Ceri. I just lost it, last night, when people insulted something dear to me, on here.

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posted September 12, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
It was no way intended as anything towards people with that unfortuante illness!
It was purely just a remark at the troller because he was being a ****, the only reason i used it because it did work quite well as an insult(no offence ment again...), but i am young, forgive me

Of course.
As I mentioned in the reply to Ami, it is a reflex for me, as my brother has the Down syndrome and I`ve growing up protecting him all the time (usually from grown ups sadly ).

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posted September 12, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of my neighbours sister has this who i went to school with, she's one the funniest girls i've ever met in my life

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posted September 12, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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