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Ami Anne
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posted September 23, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://theblacksphere.net/obamacare-for-obama-petition/

The man who put this forth is a wonderful, wonderful man, Kevin Jackson. I get his FB blogs. He is an African American talk show host! The African Americans who stand up against this horrible president get it the worst. They are truly on the front lines. Bless Kevin!

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posted September 25, 2013 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://egbertowillies.com/2013/09/24/krystal-ball-excoriate-republicans-non-conservative-obamacare-attacks-video/

Apparently not only do the RUshites not know what is in Obamacare (though they could find out by going to healthcare.gov) they don't understand that had it not been for Republican obstruction we would have had something much simpler. Nor that it was spawned by Conservative Think Tanks.

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posted September 25, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one knows what is in Obamacare except a scattered lawyer or two. You have to pass it and then you can see what is in it, Catalina. Good luck to you, Buddy, as you work your way through that debacle

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posted September 25, 2013 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Newsflash: it has been passed. And funded. If you go to healthcare.gov you can see what the options are.

Newsflash #2: just because rush et al sayno one knows what is in it doesn't make it so. Anyone who wants to know what is in it can educate themselves.

Yes it's long. So is Gone With the Wind, which I read in a week @ age 11. Enjoy your "pity party" and your life of fear and hate.

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posted September 25, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalina
Why so angry

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posted September 25, 2013 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enjoy your "pity party" and your life of fear and hate

Be careful, Catalina. This could be called snarky

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posted September 25, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wets be nice( spoken like Bugs Bunny)

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posted September 25, 2013 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was a direct quote (hence the quote marks) from your buddy from madeira beach...and it is you who describe yourself as fearful.and unable to manage your hate...or are you just being disingenuous in thise topics on SPITR?

Go ahead, be nice.

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posted September 25, 2013 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
That was a direct quote (hence the quote marks) from your buddy from madeira beach...and it is you who describe yourself as fearful.and unable to manage your hate...or are you just being disingenuous in thise topics on SPITR?

Go ahead, be nice.


I am always nice, gentle, ethereal soul that I be( Ebonics)

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posted September 25, 2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I thought the Marxist Messiah said insurance premiums would go DOWN $2500 per year under O'BomberCare.

The premium chart on the site shows increases up to triple the current insurance premium...which have already GONE UP in anticipation of O'BomberCare mandated coverages.

Oh, and...YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR SAME DOCTOR IF YOU WANT TO.

Oh, and...YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR SAME INSURANCE POLICY IF YOU WANT TO.

A pack of lies were told about O'BomberCare to get it passed...by O'Bomber himself and his Socialist comrades in the US House and Senate.

Throw all those liars out on their as$es.

WSJ: Young Buyers Face Sticker Shock on New Insurance Exchanges
Wednesday, 25 Sep 2013 11:41 AM


So much for lower insurance premiums for young consumers under Obamacare.

According to The Wall Street Journal, insurance costs for young buyers will be much higher in many states on new Obamacare insurance exchanges.

The Journal's chart below compares lowest current and Obamacare premiums for an unmarried, 27-year-old in select metro areas in 36 states where the federal government will oversee exchanges.

See chart:
http://www.newsmax.com/US/obamacare-young-consumers-premiums/2013/09/25/id/527619

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posted September 25, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop

These low info voters don't want the facts. They want to sing "Hail Comrade Obama"

Look at our Catalina here. No fact breaks through.

The low info voter is oblivious to the facts. They will get their one way bus ticket to the Fema Motel before they realize that Obama is a shill and they were beaten by a cheap carnival act.

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posted September 25, 2013 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Actual prices haven't been put out yet as far as i can see...so where does mr murdoch's (there's no law that news has to be factual) wsj get these numbers from?

And what is included in the plans they are "quoting"? Lowest pri ced "current" plans do not include much and exclude many...

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posted September 25, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enjoy your delusions!

Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare To Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums By 64-146%
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo thecary/2013/05/30/rate-shock-in-california-obamacare-to-increase-individual-insurance-premiums-by-64-146/

The usual suspects...and O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers need to face facts.

O'Bomber is exactly what he's always been...a lying Marxist weasel.

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posted September 26, 2013 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks In Dover, NH, 8/12/08)

Not Your Income Tax, Not Your Payroll Tax, Not Your Capital Gains Taxes, Not Any Of Your Taxes. (Senator Barack Obama, Remarks In Dover, NH, 8/12/08)

If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, a quarter million dollars a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime. (President Barack Obama, Address Before A Joint Session Of Congress, Washington, DC, 2/24/09)

Then-Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, When Asked If The Pledge Only Applied To Income Taxes, Said That..The Statement Didn't Come With Caveats. REPORTER: The President's opposition to tax increases for the middle income. Does that apply to the health care bill, and specifically to this idea about taxing health insurance premiums? ROBERT GIBBS: Taxing? REPORTER: Health insurance premiums. GIBBS: Well, I mean it's ªthe statement didn't come with caveats. (Press Briefing By Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, Washington, D.C., 4/15/09)

So, how truthful has the little Marxist Messiah been about taxing Americans? Every single one of the tax increases O'Bomber proposed hits Americans making less than $200,000 per year.

8.6 Percent Of Households Earning Less Than $10,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

11.9 Percent Of Households Making Between $10,000 And $20,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

18.1 Percent Of Households Making Between $20,000 And $30,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

22.2 Percent Of Households Making Between $30,000 And $40,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

23.6 Percent Of Households Making Between $40,000 And $50,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

31.6 Percent Of Households Making Between $50,000 And $75,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

38.7 Percent Of Households Making Between $75,000 And $100,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)

51.4 Percent Of Households Making Between $100,000 And $200,000 Would Have Their Taxes Increased. (Table T12-0044, Administration's FY2013 Budget Proposals, Tax Policy Center, 3/15/12)"

http://www.gop.com/news/gop-blog/obamas-not-a-single-dime-tax-pledge-gets-broken-again/

If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, a quarter million dollars a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.
Barack Hussein O'Bomber

Right! Check!

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posted September 26, 2013 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O'Bomber says O'BomberCare will reduce health insurance rates $2500 per family.

O'Bomber is just another Marxist Socialist Progressive liar.


The Wall Street Journal has compiled a table based on HHS data which illustrates in detail just what Obamacare is doing to insurance premiums. The following rates are what a 27-year old would pay before and after Obamacare kicks in:

State City Lowest-cost bronze plan available on exchange Current lowest-cost premium
Alabama Birmingham $170 $80
Alaska Anchorage $254 $79
Arkansas Little Rock $190 $31
Arizona Phoenix $139 $50
Delaware $203 $51
Florida Miami $163 $66
Georgia Atlanta $166 $43
Iowa Cedar Rapids $132 $70
Idaho Boise $145 $59
Illinois Chicago $125 $74
Indiana Indianapolis $204 $84
Kansas Wichita $121 $43
Louisiana New Orleans $170 $39
Maine Portland $192 $122
Michigan Detroit $138 $55
Missouri St. Louis $147 $64
Mississippi Jackson $199 $58
Montana Bozeman $147 $66
North Carolina Charlotte $183 $35
North Dakota Fargo $175 $47
Nebraska Omaha $162 $26
New Hampshire $186 $149
New Jersey $219 $162
New Mexico Albuquerque $126 $38
Ohio Columbus* $205 $47
Oklahoma Oklahoma City $105 $54
Pennsylvania Philadelphia $195 $73
South Carolina Columbia $166 $55
South Dakota Sioux Falls $196 $89
Tennessee Nashville $114 $41
Texas Houston $138 $63
Utah Salt Lake $143 $72
Virginia Fairfax County $144 $44
Wisconsin Milwaukee $200 $69
West Virginia Huntington $176 $96
Wyoming Cheyenne $271 $82

Sources: Department of Health and Human Services (premiums on exchanges), eHealthinsurance.com (current Columbus, Ohio, premium), HealthCare.gov (all other current premiums)
Notes: Premiums available on the health-insurance exchanges are for the lowest-priced bronze-level plan in 2014. Current lowest rates are for a nonsmoker, for coverage to begin Oct. 1, 2013, and may cover more limited benefits. Rates in Delaware, New Hampshire and New Jersey are applicable anywhere in the state.
While you ponder these massive rate increases — and how you’ll be able to afford them — check out Avik Roy’s latest analysis of the effect of Obamacare on the individual health care market and ask yourself a question: When Obama claims this disaster will make health care more "affordable", what the hell is he talking about?

Update: Via Paul Bedard, in Tennessee Obamacare will triple men’s premiums and double women’s premiums:

We know this because at the same time the White House was releasing its broad study, Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander released his analysis of the report’s portion on his state. He found that Obamacare will cost far more than what many of his constituents are paying today, some by as much as 190 percent.

From his release:

— Today, a 27-year-old man in Memphis can buy a plan for as low as $41 a month. On the exchange, the lowest state average is $119 a month — a 190 percent increase.

— Today, a 27-year-old woman in Nashville can also buy a plan for as low as $58 a month. On the exchange, the lowest-priced plan in Nashville is $114 a month — a 97 percent increase. Even with a tax subsidy, that plan is $104 a month, almost twice what she could pay today.

— Today, women in Nashville can choose from 30 insurance plans that cost less than the administration says insurance plans on the exchange will cost, even with the new tax subsidy.

— In Nashville, 105 insurance plans offered today will not be available in the exchange.

Said the Republican senator, “Why should a 27-year-old male in Memphis be forced to pay nearly three times more than what he pays today for health insurance? Why should a young woman in Nashville have to pay twice as much? This isn’t what President Obama promised Tennesseans, but it’s what he’s giving them — higher costs and less choice — that are two of the most urgent reasons Obamacare must be repealed and our health care system fixed."
Does this mean Senator Alexander will join Senator Cruz’s effort to defund Obamacare? I could be wrong, but I doubt it. If this isn’t worth filibustering, what is?

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Senator Cruz voted with the rest, to kill the defunding bill. Oh dear. All that hot air and green eggs on face.

The exchanges are not the only.place youcan get insurance despite simplistic propaganda to the contrary... They are for people who can't find something.they prefer in the private market.

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posted September 26, 2013 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Senator Cruz voted with the rest, to kill the defunding bill. Oh dear. All that hot air and green eggs on face.

The exchanges are not the only.place youcan get insurance despite simplistic propaganda to the contrary... They are for people who can't find something.they prefer in the private market.


Jwhop
It is good that we have Catalina here to exemplify the kind of person who won't look at the facts no matter how cogently an erudite man like you presents them. These people are really out there, even though it is hard to believe


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posted September 29, 2013 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Obamacare does not apply to EVERYONE, it should not apply to ANYONE {Ted Cruz)

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posted September 29, 2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Senator Cruz voted with the rest, to kill the defunding bill"...Catalina/katatonic

Once again, you prove just how little you know. You must have gotten that horseshiit off one of your far left loon sites.

The usual suspects and O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers bear a striking resemblance to mushrooms. They're kept in the dark and fed a steady diet of horseshiiit.

Cruz DID NOT vote to kill the House O'BomberCare defunding bill. Cruz voted...after 21 hours of filibustering to let debate move forward on the House bill. When the far left Socialist extremist Hairy Reid stripped the defunding language out of the bill, Cruz voted AGAINST IT!

Michelle Malkin
Obama Lied, My Health Plan Died
Posted on September 29 2013

Like an estimated 22 million other Americans, I am a self-employed small-business owner who buys health insurance for my family directly on the individual market. We have a high-deductible PPO plan that allows us to choose from a wide range of doctors.

Or rather, we had such a plan.
Last week, our family received notice from Anthem BlueCross BlueShield of Colorado that we can no longer keep the plan we like because of "changes from health care reform (also called the Affordable Care Act or ACA)." The letter informed us that "(t)o meet the requirements of the new laws, your current plan can no longer be continued beyond your 2014 renewal date."In short: Obama lied. My health plan died.

Remember? Our president looked America straight in the eye and promised: "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., also lied when she pledged: "Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them."

This isn’t just partisan business. It’s personal. Our cancellation letter states that Anthem is "not going to be selling new individual PPO plans." When we asked whether we could keep our children’s doctors, an agent for Anthem told my husband and me she didn’t know. The insurer has no details available yet on what exactly they’ll be offering. We either will be herded into the Obamacare federal health insurance exchange regime (launching October 1), a severely limited HMO plan, or presented with costlier alternatives from another insurer. If they even exist.
http://conservatives4palin.com/2013/09/michelle-malkin-obama-lied-my-health-plan-died.html

Just doing what Marxist Socialist Progressives always do....LIE and then, their mushroom brigades pick up the LIE and attempt to spread it..like the horseshiiit it is.

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