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Randall
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posted September 27, 2013 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The IPCC Report briefly mentions that there has been no warming for the past 15 years (to save their integrity), but they don't give much in the way of why that is. They say it's "natural variability." How right they are! The entire rise and fall of temps from the beginning has been due to natural variability! CO2 levels are higher than ever. Temps have bottomed out. If it's "very likely" due to human activity, then the opposite would be true! The problem with computer models is that we don't know how to input such variable things as the ocean absorbing heat. So, the models fail every time from inadequate data. When will people stop listening to these idiots? The comments after the article are very telling. More and more average citizens are learning not to listen to entities that have a vested interest in the lies they propogate, and these informed people are refusing to be duped.
http://news.yahoo.com/climate-panel-warming-extremely-likely-080904532.html

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posted September 28, 2013 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted October 01, 2013 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They cling to the human cause of warming, even when all evidence points to the contrary, plus the fact that there is no warming. That's not science. Science is observation...not making things what you wish them to be (so you can line your pockets).

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posted October 01, 2013 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly!

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posted October 02, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More nonsense.

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posted October 02, 2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The definition of nonsense is claiming warming is worse than ever when there is no warming!

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posted October 02, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to say that an anomaly disproves the science isn't exactly what I would deem definitive. There has been no retreat from the warmth level, has there? The last three decades were still the warmest on record, right? It seems like a stretch to believe an unexpected plateau means we should stop paying attention.

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posted October 02, 2013 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not call failure of predictions an anomaly. The latest report predicts a much larger increase in temps than previously fantasized. It won't happen. And no, the last 30 years were not the hottest on record, as Jwhop has already addressed countless times here.

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posted October 02, 2013 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retreat from what warmth level? The earth has cooled. Sea levels have not risen. Epic fail.

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posted October 03, 2013 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Retreat from what warmth level? The earth has cooled. Sea levels have not risen. Epic fail."

Yep Randall...except the last true believer in Man Made Global Warming is still clinging to his religion.

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posted October 04, 2013 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The IPCC also rebuffed the argument made by climate sceptics that a "pause" for the last 10-15 years in the upward climb of global temperatures was evidence of flaws in their computer models. In the summary for policymakers, published on Friday morning after days of deliberations in the Swedish capital, the scientists said: "Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth's surface than any preceding decade since 1850. In the northern hemisphere, 1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years." http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/27/ipcc-world-dangerous-climate-change
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The earth has cooled. Sea levels have not risen. Epic fail.

Wrong on both counts. If you wish to prove otherwise, feel free, but that is not what has been reported, and I can't fathom why you'd try to get away with such an obviously wrong characterization.

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posted October 04, 2013 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The IPCC also rebuffed the argument made by climate sceptics that a "pause" for the last 10-15 years in the upward climb of global temperatures was evidence of flaws in their computer models. In the summary for policymakers, published on Friday morning after days of deliberations in the Swedish capital, the scientists said: "Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth's surface than any preceding decade since 1850. In the northern hemisphere, 1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years."...acoustic

Could you really be this dense acoustic? Is there no level of bullshiit you won't fall for?

The IPCC has it's t!t caught in the wringer. Their predictions didn't come true. Earth's temps are cooling, not heating as they forecast. They've lost all credibility in scientific circles and they're grasping at straws.

"1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years"...acoustic

More blithering, blathering bullshiiit.

It was 2*C warmer than present temperatures in the Medeival Warm Period...about 1000 to 1300AD.

Your Man Made Global Warming Religion is crumbling right before your eyes.

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posted October 04, 2013 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, you never characterize things correctly, or reasonably, and this is no different. The IPCC isn't in trouble because you deem it so. There has been no loss of credibility. What a load of imaginary nonsense.

You guys keep saying that the predictions didn't come true, when I've read that current temps are within forecasts previously made. This recurring idea that the models are forever in error is false.

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"1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years"...acoustic

Way to selectively quote, dude. That quote is in reference to just the northern hemisphere. Way to make an ass of yourself.

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It was 2*C warmer than present temperatures in the Medeival Warm Period...about 1000 to 1300AD

Still unable to remember things, I see. We've covered your local weather event before. Local being the key word (as opposed to global).

Nothing is crumbling before my eyes...as per my normal experience. Delusion is all your post amounts to.

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posted October 05, 2013 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Things are not true because I deem they are. Things are true because they are factually accurate.

That leaves out the high priests of the Man Made Global Warming Religion, the IPCC and YOU acoustic. Based on your track records, no one should believe a word you say about Man Made Global Warming.

Your clownish prognostications are amusing but worthless.

Here's another leftist clown who couldn't find his own ass with both hands. He's one of your leftist boys and you're welcome to him.

Sir Bob Geldof: 'All humans will die before 2030'
SIR BOB GELDOF has declared we ALL have less than 17 years to live.
Published 4th October 2013

Sir Bob Geldof based his miserable prediction on the effects of climate change
The musician-turned-activist reckons the world will end in 2030 - leading to the extinction of humankind.

“The world can decide in a fit of madness to kill itself," he told a group of youngsters at a summit in Johannesburg, South Africa.

The former Boomtown Rats singer also warned "the next war will not be a World War One or a World War Two, it will be the end."

He added: "We may not get to 2030. We need to address the problem of climate change urgently."
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/342876/Sir-Bob-Geldof-All-humans-will-die-before-2030

Is there anyone on earth stupid enough to believe this bullshiit?

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posted October 05, 2013 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bob Geldof is an ass. Proves nothing that he is making balmy predictions, he always does that.

He is talking about two different things though. What does an overinflated grade b popstar have to do with the sctual science? You can find melodrama on both sides of the global warming fence.
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In the medieval warm period a) far fewer people living in crowded conditions b) different coastlines c)very little in the wayof pipelines, electric structures, and don't forget that a sudden ice age was the end of that "happily warmer" period. Is that where we want to go?

And please don't forget I am not big on global warming either direction. Just get a little real in your slapdowns?

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posted October 07, 2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JWhop, you don't have a place to call anything "factually accurate" where the topic of global warming or climate change is concerned. It's laughable that you'd attempt such an obviously nonsensical line.

I corrected you last post, and then you posted about Bob Geldoff. It's great that you realize you really DON'T have an answer to SCIENCE, but posting about some celebrity opinion is of no consequence to anyone here.

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posted October 08, 2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"JWhop, you don't have a place to call anything "factually accurate" where the topic of global warming or climate change is concerned. It's laughable that you'd attempt such an obviously nonsensical line."..acoustic

Between the 2 of us acoustic you're the one who couldn't pass a simple high school science test.

"Bob Geldof is an ass. Proves nothing that he is making balmy predictions, he always does that."...Catalina/katatonic

The problem is that Geldof represents the prevailing thinking in the Man Made Global Warming Religion. This bunch of fakes, frauds, con artists and faux scientists...the high priests of the Religion have been making balmy predictions for years...which don't come true.

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posted October 09, 2013 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still lost to delusion, huh?

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posted October 18, 2013 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't it just terrible; someone taped Algore's mouth closed and cured Man Made Global Warming. Problem solved.

Time for the con artists of the Man Made Global Warming Religion to declare victory and move on to new horizons.

Man Made Global Cooling

Algore can promise to cut down and burn a tree in your name...at $1000 a pop or promise to take an extra flight in his personal jet to release more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere...to warm the planet back up!

Mann, Jones and Hansen can devise a new "hockey stick graph" with the blade pointing down to keep those federal and state grants rolling in.

And, a good time will be had by all climate religionists.

New Study: ’2013 ranks as one of the least extreme U.S. weather years ever’– Many bad weather events at ‘historically low levels
Marc Morano - Climate DepotOctober 18, 2013 12:25 PM

'Whether you’re talking about tornadoes, wildfires, extreme heat or hurricanes, the good news is that weather-related disasters in the US are all way down this year compared to recent years and, in some cases, down to historically low levels.'

Tornadoes: 'lowest total in several decades'

Number of wildfires: 'On pace to be the lowest it has been in the past ten years'

Extreme Heat: The number of 100 degree days may 'turn out to be the lowest in about 100 years of records'

Hurricanes: 'We are currently in the longest period (8 years) since the Civil War Era without a major hurricane strike in the US (i.e., category 3, 4 or 5)' ( last major hurricane to strike the US was Hurricane Wilma in 2005)

http://www.cl imatedepot.com/2013/10/18/new-study-2013-ranks-as-one-of-the-least-extreme-us-weather-years-ever-many-bad-weather-events-at-historically-low-levels/

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posted October 19, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flooded-out ghost towns in Colorado, smoke-filled skies in Australia, monster typhoon in India, 7.3 earthquake in manila...all in the last couple of weeks. And a distinct lack of hurricanes in Fla...also unusual, no?

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posted October 19, 2013 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm surprised it mentioned wildfires after we had, what was it, the third biggest wildfire ever in California history.

On the hurricane front, have we already forgotten Category 3 Hurricane "Super Storm" Sandy? I would say that was a pretty significant "hurricane strike" here in the U.S. That was just last year, FYI.

    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for August 2013 tied with 2005 as the fourth highest in the 1880–2013 record, at 0.62°C (1.12°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F). http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2013/8

The whole article is beside the point, though. As I've had to repeatedly say over the years: when we're talking about global warming/climate change, we aren't talking about local weather. Yes, climate change is supposed to contribute to more volatile weather, but absence of volatile weather doesn't do a thing to change what we know about global warming.

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posted October 19, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah acoustic, you've said lots of things but no one is listening to your bloviating about Man Made Global Warming any longer.

And, surprise, no one is listening to your lying high priests of your religion...Algore, Jones, Mann and Hansen either.

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posted October 19, 2013 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's one way to find out, as with the ACA, try to counteract instead of stonewalling...but as w most things people probly will stay in denial until the environnent forces cooperation..

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posted October 19, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's funny coming from you, JWhop. You think you have a huge audience for your controversial beliefs about the climate? I'm only reporting what's been reported for years now. Meanwhile, you jump at any opportunity for conjecture opposing the established science.

Furthermore, I said more in that post that you don't seem to have an answer for, so you engaged in what Cat's calling stonewalling, because you don't have any other way to recover from my rebuttal, which is par for the course.

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posted October 19, 2013 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You think you have a huge audience for your controversial beliefs about the climate? I'm only reporting what's been reported for years now. Meanwhile, you jump at any opportunity for conjecture opposing the established science."...acoustic

I'm not the one looking for an audience acoustic, YOU ARE. I don't give a rat's ass what others think about Man Made Global Warming...unless they're spouting drivel like you are...and then, I pick your most absurd drivel for comment. Oh, and Man Made Global Warming is not "Established Science". At best, it's faux science.

"Furthermore, I said more in that post that you don't seem to have an answer for"...acoustic

Where did you ever get the idea your every bit of blither, blather, bloviation and bullshiiit is worthy of comment acoustic? I have not the slightest intention of becoming your full time tutor. You need to take some remedial high school science classes...and pass them this time before anyone would take you seriously.

The True Global Warming Crisis: The Fibs (Lies) Underlying The Theory

As Mark Twain observed, “There are liars, damn liars, and statisticians.” Perhaps if he were alive today and followed political manipulations of science by the U.N.’s IPCC, he would add one more category…”demagogues”.
•The report states that “Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia.” In reality, the Earth has been warming ever since it began thawing out from the Little Ice Age around 1850, and temperatures are still cooler than those that have prevailed about 90% of the time over the past 10,000 years.

As Dr. Don Easterbrook, a professor of geology at Western Washington University points out, “There just isn’t any nice way to say this – it’s an outright lie.” He notes that vast published literature shows that recent warming is not only not unusual, but more intense warming has occurred many times in past centuries and millennia. More than 20 such periods during the past five centuries are recorded in the Greenland GISP2 ice core, and temperatures during both the Medieval and Roman Warm periods were higher than the present.

"Finally, it’s way past time to come to terms with a true climate crisis, one where political agenda-driven liars, statistical manipulators and demagogues are permitted to misrepresent facts without vociferous challenges from the science community they purport to represent. That’s a terribly costly man-made disaster that has absolutely no excuse."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/10/15/the-true- global-warming-crisis-is-the-fibs-underlying-the-theory/2/

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