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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2013 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Basically, jwhop, if you want to diss something to the extent you've been doing, being too lazy to find.out if your hearsay opinion is correct just shows you don't even care that you don't know what you're talking about.

You can't even be bothered to find out what happens when you go there...kind of like complaining about the ACA and tgen bragging about how you haven't read it.

And no interest in making your popgun remark comptehensible either.


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posted October 05, 2013 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe I put up with you guys as an almost solo act before Saint Jwhop got here

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posted October 05, 2013 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right Catalina. October 1st was one of the milestone. January 1st is the next. Until then States can go to the FedEx exchanges if they don't have setup an exchange.The reaction of the insurance companies you described is exactly what is happening in the Carolina's and the dumb governor of South Carolina Nikki wants to challenge the law.

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Catalina
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posted October 05, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone trying to sign up now is ahead of the game. If they were so dreading it they would also be dragging their heels

The fact that 34 STATES decided they couldn't be arsed is one of the reasons there is so much demand on the Federal. I thought they were standing up for States' Rights? but it seems they are happy to let the Fed run it in their states.

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jwhop
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posted October 05, 2013 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You can't even be bothered to find out what happens when you go there...kind of like complaining about the ACA and then bragging about how you haven't read it."...Catalina/katatonic

Excuse me irrational one but I don't need to get first hand experience trying to sign up for a government program I don't need or want.

The press, across the political spectrum has been doing a good job laying out the access problems at healthcare.gov and the state exchanges. Odd isn't that they're all experiencing the same problems. They've also done a good job..some of them in detailing the outrageous premiums O'BomberCare will force Americans to pay..for something they don't want.

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Catalina
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posted October 06, 2013 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't help wondering how people who can't get through are getting that kind of information? Node got through. The stories may be making hay or they may be good reporting. Not saying you're wrong, just that you have a vested interest in believing horror stories.

On the other hand the states that got.on the case are already serving people who are reporting sstisfying savings and experiences.

Again, the reason for opening ahead of the January deadline is to get it sorted and volume always creates server issues.

If you ever listen to talk shows you know it takes a lot of patience, first to get thru, then to wait your turn to tslk. Most people are willing to put up with this sort of
Headache to get the result.

On the other hand if you make up your mind before you try it's just to much trouble, then it will be. Just like being rich, right?

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posted October 06, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Not saying you're wrong, just that you have a vested interest in believing horror stories."...Catalina/katatonic

Those "horror stories" you speak of have been reported in the drooling main stream media who usually refrain from reporting any story which makes O'Bomber look bad or even foolish.

But, they had to report the story of the "out of service" O'Bomber Abomination exchanges or lose the very last shred of credibility they have left..even among the "low information voters" who are trying to get access to the exchanges, but can't.

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posted October 06, 2013 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the "mainstream" has reported is that 8 million shut the server down, on Oct 1.

Millions are getting on board the polls also state, across the country, people in America want this. Only delusional Medicare recipients do not.

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posted October 07, 2013 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"What the "mainstream" has reported is that 8 million shut the server down, on Oct 1."...Node

More "magical happy talk" since they have absolutely no idea how many people actually signed up. Whoever is spreading this tripe should lay off the magic mushrooms! Where did you get this "magic number"?

Btw, the Drudge site gets 37 MILLION VISITORS A DAY! So, are we to calculate from these numbers that Drudge is almost 5 times as popular as the O'Bomber Abomination? Oh wait, Drudge gets 37 MILLION visitors A DAY; it took 6 days for the combined exchanges to get the "estimated" 8 million hits.

The only good thing that can be said about O'BomberCare and the exchange sites is that they have a therapeutic benefit. Citizens can go to the sites, look at O'BomberCare premium prices, have an instant colonic response and cure their constipation. O'BomberCare is a fast acting natural constipation medication.

Consumer response to $1 billion Obamacare ad campaign is still underwhelming
October 4, 2013

When we reported October 3 that website traffic to the government's $1 billion Obamacare advertising campaign had been grossly exaggerated and that actual enrollments were anemic, it turns out we didn't know the half of it. From Washington, DC, to London, UK, media are crunching the numbers and coming up with a dismal picture of overstated claims and underwhelming results.

Overstated traffic stats

Quoting giddily enthusiastic federal figures, WPRO Radio reported at 8:50 AM Eastern time, October 4, that

“More than seven million Americans have gone online since Tuesday to browse the Obamacare health insurance exchanges, prompting HealthCare.gov administrators to add servers and engineers to handle the Web traffic.

“Another 295,000 people used federal health insurance exchange call centers and 167,000 have requested live Web chats, according to Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services spokesman Richard Olague.

But while seven million visitors to the one federal government website that hasn't been shut down may sound impressive – it is, after all, about seven-eighths of New York City's population – in a nation of 313,900,000 that's not so hot.

Nor, as Jim Geraghty notes on his October 4 Campaign Spot blog, is it a big deal in terms of web traffic.

“Seven million hits sounds like a lot . . . Until you realize the Drudge Report gets 37 million or so a day. In 1997, Altavista (remember that search site?) was getting 80 million hits per day. Google averages -- averages –--5 BILLION searches per day. (emphasis added)

Underwhelming results

The other side of the Atlantic, Britain's Daily Mail took on a job Americans won't do, actually calculated the closing rates (i.e., the percentage of responses that turn into enrollments) and headlined that "Less than 1% of visitors are signing up for Obamacare on state health exchange websites."

U.S. political editor David Martosko, who did the calculations, described the results as "paltry." Specifically:

“California, the ultimate blue state whose federal lawmakers voted overwhelmingly in support of Obamacare, turned less than 1 per cent of its Web visits into 'Covered California' participants on Tuesday.

“"We had over 5.7 million hits to our website as of 3 p.m. yesterday," Covered California spokeswoman Kelsey Caldwell told MailOnline Wednsday.

“"7,700 consumers began their application process yesterday. ... 4,143 applications are pending,' she added.

“Caldwell couldn't say how many of the 5.7 million website hits were from unique Californians. But assuming 712,500 online visitors saw eight different Web pages each, the sign-up rate was 0.58 per cent.

“Connecticut saw a similarly low rate of interest. Democratic Congressman Jim Himes tweeted after 8:30 PM Monday that his state's health exchange had "received 28k visitors, and took 167 applications for health insurance. Day 1."

“That indicates just 0.59 per cent of Connecticut residents who sought information about their state's Obamacare program on Monday decided to become part of it, according to Access Health CT spokeswoman Kathleen Tallarita.

Doing the same calculation for the two-day figures Himes tweeted on Tuesday, October 2, we came up with 0.4 percent.

“New York Department of Health executive director Donna Frescato said in a statement that "more than 12,000 business owners and individuals from across the state have shopped online for low-cost health insurance plans ... and the site has received nearly 30 million web visits."

“A spokesman didn't respond to a request for clarification about whether those 12,000 people completed applications for health coverage. If they did, and if each 'web visit' corresponded to a New Yorker who saw 8 pages, the state's enrollment rate would be the lowest of all – 0.32 per cent.

Some states, though, have managed to outperform California and Connecticut, with enrollment rates rising all the way to single digits.

•In Illinois, 1.7 percent of visitors filed applications.
•Rhode Island did better, with all of 2.3 percent.
•Kentucky reported doing twice as well, with completed applications from 5.3 percent – by default, the highest closing rate in the nation.
•"Vermont's participation rate is no more than 6 per cent, although that number may be deceiving," Matrosko explains. "Emily Yahr, a public information officer with Vermont Health Connect, told MailOnline that her state exchange's website had served 'about 20,300 unique visit[or]s,' resulting in 'just over 1,230 user accounts established.' But she couldn't say how many people submitted completed applications."
•In "Washington, D.C. government spokesperson Richard Sorian said Wednesday that 15,452 unique visitors had seen his agency's DC Health Link website, and that new accounts were created for 4,171 individuals and families, and 136 small businesses – a rate of nearly 28 per cent. He, too, offered no numbers showing how many of those users applied for health insurance after they created accounts.
But Sorian did suggest that number was not as impressive."
•Minnestoa's MNSure was unsure, claiming it had "'no enrollment numbers yet.' But spokeswoman Jenni Bowring-McDonough said the state's insurance exchange website was seeing an average of 50,000 hits on its website every hour since it launched – a 24-hour average of 1.2 million – from Minnesotans. Just 2,500 new accounts resulted. At an estimated 8 pages per visitor, that's an account-creation rate of less than 1.7 per cent. The number of actual applications would have been lower still."
•New Mexico reported that "292 businesses had enrolled in its coverage plans but wouldn't say how many individual taxpayers are taking part. 'We don't have any of those numbers yet,' said [health insurance exchange] spokeswoman Annie Holschuh."
•In Tennessee, where one Chad Henderson achieved instant fame for being the first, and possibly only, person in the entire state to actually buy an Obamacare policy through the federal exchange, well, Mediaite discovered from his LinkedIn page that he was an Organizing for America volunteer. This is the organization that, Hot Air's Ed Morrissey posts, "spent the last year stuffing e-mail inboxes with an avalanche of missives about just how easy and wonderful ObamaCare would be."
•Figuring that discretion was the better part of valor, Maryland, Oregon, Colorado, Idaho and Hawaii followed the federal government's example and refused to disclose signup statistics. If those had been good, we can be sure they'd be crowing about them.

http://www.examiner.com/article/comsumer-response-to-1-billion-obamacare-ad-campaign-is-still-underwhelming

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posted October 08, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only good thing that can be said about O'BomberCare and the exchange sites is that they have a therapeutic benefit. Citizens can go to the sites, look at O'BomberCare premium prices, have an instant colonic response and cure their constipation. O'BomberCare is a fast acting natural constipation medication....if they can get access and navigate the O'BomberCare exchange MAZE.

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posted October 08, 2013 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
The only good thing that can be said about O'BomberCare and the exchange sites is that they have a therapeutic benefit. Citizens can go to the sites, look at O'BomberCare premium prices, have an instant colonic response and cure their constipation. O'BomberCare is a fast acting natural constipation medication....if they can get access and navigate the O'BomberCare exchange MAZE.




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