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Catalina
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posted October 09, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/207311/the-5-creepiest-things-about-how-the-koch-brothers-engineered-the-shutdown/

Then there is the fact that the current crop of Tea Party candidates largely campaigned on SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT if they couldn't REPEAL the ACA...

Now they want Obama to take the credit, of course, since people don't actually WANT it shut down and the economy dead-legged AT ALL.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 09, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AND they're claiming that the Administration is using scare tactics all the while they've been doing the same with regard to "Obamacare."

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jwhop
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posted October 09, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Then there is the fact that the current crop of Tea Party candidates largely campaigned on SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT if they couldn't REPEAL the ACA..."..Catalina/katatonic

Utter horseshiiit.

Not one (1) Republican Tea Party member or any other Republican campaigned on shutting down the government..if they couldn't repeal O'Bomber's Abomination or for any other reason.

Now Catalina/katatonic, if you wish to push this horseshiit then go find video or audio or campaign speech quotes where Republicans said they would shut down the government if they couldn't repeal O'Bomber's Abomination.

I'll be waiting for you to post the video, the audio or the direct quotes...from a credible source.

"the current crop of Tea Party candidates largely campaigned on SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVT if they couldn't REPEAL the ACA..."..Catalina/katatonic

99.99999999999999999999999% pure horseshiit!

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Catalina
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posted October 09, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? IN THEIR OWN WORDS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68wy7ouG6Y

some fun clips if you can't stand the narration

plus the well publicized "blueprint for shutdown" from the heritage group

they planned it, they are happy with it, they think they are WINNING, and they are pretending it is all Obama's fault...

surprise surprise.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 09, 2013 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Utter horseshiiit.

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jwhop
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posted October 09, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Rachael Maddow's own words Catalina/katatonic?

More utter horseshiit from a far left loon who just makes it up as she goes along. That video is about House votes NOW to defund, delay or change O'Bomber's Abomination. There's not one word by Republicans campaigning in 2010 to shut down the government.

So, you've shot your mouth off again but where's the proof of what you say?

Proof, as in Republicans on the campaign trail in 2010 and/or 2012 delivering campaign speeches where they say they will shut down the federal government is O'Bomber and demoscats won't agree to repeal or change O'BomberCare.

That is what you said isn't it Catalina/katatonic? Republicans CAMPAIGNED ON THE SHUTDOWN OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT...IF THEY COULDN'T REPEAL O'BOMBERCARE.

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Catalina
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posted October 09, 2013 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, jwhop, they are not current they are csmpaign clips of people now in congress. Yes, there are some shots of them grinning at winning last week but you need to look again if you think they are all Rachel Maddow talking. Lmao

Never mind that boehner won't call a votr cause he stands to lose it...if not his job

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posted October 09, 2013 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why John Boehner might have no choice but ‘unconditional surrender’

By Sean Sullivan, Published: October 9 at 6:30 am

The biggest takeaway from President Obama’s Tuesday press conference was confirmation that he would sit down and negotiate with Republicans if they passed short-term “clean” bills to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling.

“If they can’t do it for a long time, do it for the period of time in which these negotiations are taking place,” Obama said at the White House.

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) wasn’t impressed. “What the president said today was, if there is unconditional surrender by Republicans, he’ll sit down and talk to us,” said Boehner.

The thing is, it might be Boehner’s best and only option for ending the standoff that has seized Washington.

Let’s take a closer look at why.

The government shutdown has reached its ninth day and Boehner’s outlook now is arguably worse than it was the start of the shutdown. Polling shows the public blames congressional Republicans more than Obama, Democrats haven’t budged from their demand for a “clean” bill to fund the government, and the shutdown is encroaching on the deadline to raise the debt ceiling.

What Boehner needs is a solution, and fast — one, ideally, that satisfies the cast-iron conservatives as much as possible but can also win the support of the Democratic Senate and Obama.

So far, there are no obvious options. And previous efforts have led the speaker nowhere.

He has repeatedly called for Democrats to negotiate with him. They have repeatedly responded that they will only talk after the government is funded and the debt ceiling is raised. The House passed three stopgap spending bills leading up to the shutdown that took aim at Obamacare. The Senate swiftly rejected all of them.

In short, it’s been back to square one again and again.

Boehner has closed the door on the idea of voting for a clean continuing resolution to reopen the government and a clean bill to raise the debt limit. But a short-term version of both might be least painful way out of what’s proven to be a very tough situation for him.

If Boehner were to agree to a very short-term — say, six to eight weeks — debt ceiling extension and government funding bill, he could sell it to his conference as a chance to get Democrats to the negotiating table on health-care and spending. And in short order, Republicans would have some leverage once again, as yet another shutdown would be triggered without a deal and the risk of default would be resurrected without another debt ceiling increase.

Would it be easy to sell that plan to conservatives committed to gaining concessions from Democrats now? No. It would be difficult.

But consider the alternative. Obama’s not budging. Neither is Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). If Boehner doesn’t either, he’d be left with a prolonged shutdown that polling shows has reflected poorly on Republicans. And he’d have a major stake in the potentially dire consequences of not raising the debt ceiling.

Viewed in that context, short-term bills suddenly don’t seem as tough to swallow.

There are no easy answers for Boehner. There are no endgames that don’t involve him absorbing more blame. But with the walls closing in and the options running out, what Boehner wrote off as “surrender” Tuesday might soon end up being the least painful path for him to walk.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/09/why-john-boehner-might-have-no-choice-but-unconditional-surrender/

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posted October 09, 2013 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had a lengthy reply go poof...
but the gist was:

Ever wonder how much money this has cost the taxpayer?

Specifically, how much time and money has been spent on the 42 attempts to overthrow the ACA LAW?

I would love to know in dollars and cents.

That the shutdown was orchestrated is obvious to me, and February was when it became clear, as the default on our bills has been going on since late last year. The House just will not pay our bills. Stalemate after stalemate.

Freedom Works & the Heritage Foundation will hopefully have a nasty surprise in the coming elections, with the Tea Party voted out.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 09, 2013 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had a lengthy reply go poof...

It was a sign

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jwhop
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posted October 09, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"No, jwhop, they are not current they are csmpaign clips of people now in congress."...Catalina/katatonic

Where are the video clips, audio tapes or direct quotes from Republicans campaigning for election in 2010 or 2012 on the premise they would shut down the government if they couldn't repeal O'BomberCare?

That was your allegation. Now back it up with some proof.

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Catalina
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posted October 10, 2013 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes they have been telling everyone they're gonna shut it down so they finally backed into the wall. Now watch them back THrough it and jump on the old folks again
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/republicans-gop-obamacare-gov ernment-shutdown-debt-ceiling-98102.html

As someone who undoubtedly had their head up their arse was saying last week...

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jwhop
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posted October 10, 2013 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalina/katatonic

Where are the video clips, audio tapes or direct quotes from Republicans campaigning for election in 2010 or 2012 on the premise they would shut down the government if they couldn't repeal O'BomberCare?

That was your allegation. Now back it up with some proof.

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Catalina
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posted October 10, 2013 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop i'm not going to split hairs with you. Either adjust your glasses, hearing devices or brain. I did not say thry campaigned for election on that premise but that it has been part if their campsigns both for office snd to psyche the anti-govt crowd is in plain sight in clips from 2010,11, and 12...and the obvious glee in showing their "cajones" last week instead of making an effort, is there too. I don't really count the interviews, too easy to cut context out, but your inability to absorb unpleasant truths is creating an alternate reality.

While we all create our reality, without a common ground we got zilch=0=nada.

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