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Ami Anne
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posted October 19, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Ami, you don't have predictive powers. You only think you do. End of story. Your imagination runs wild.

Furthermore, Jwhop is mostly nonsense. A belief in his powers of reason is tantamount to an admission of gullibility or worse.



This is what you do--you THINK of me in 2-3 years. You remember what I told you. It WILL come to pass

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posted October 19, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Furthermore, Jwhop is mostly nonsense. A belief in his powers of reason is tantamount to an admission of gullibility or worse."..acoustic

Since you're forever getting your butt kicked in debates acoustic, your comment would lead rational people to believe you're irrational and illogical...and they would be right.

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posted October 20, 2013 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More imaginary ravings, Jwhop?

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posted October 20, 2013 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since you're forever getting your butt kicked in debates acoustic, your comment would lead rational people to believe you're irrational and illogical...and they would be right.

Ha ha

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posted October 20, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Sunday, Oct 20, 2013 04:00 AM PST

Just secede already: The obstructionists aren't going anywhere. Maybe we should

We don't want to live in Ted Cruz's America. He doesn't like ours. Maybe a split really is inevitable --and right

By Chuck Thompson

One of the advantages in being out of the country during the government shutdown --until this week I'd been riding out the fiasco working in Asia-- is not being exposed to the petty, day-to-day indignities it spawns.

There's no finding out what new outrage the three Chrises (Cillizza, Hayes, Matthews) have dug up. No trawling the Foxbaugh universe to see if there's any reasonable discourse coming out of Camp Sabotage.

On the other hand, with distance comes clarity, and viewing America's political decay through the lens of the international world comes with its own problems --not least of which is that it brings the depressing truth about this country's social and political dysfunction into frightening focus.

That truth isn't simply that our government is under attack from a band of domestic anarchists --presumably everyone can see that-- but that the attack is working. No matter when the current crisis is declared "over," its damage has already been done. The victory already claimed by those out to drive the American government to its knees will simply embolden the infidels to mount another attack once they've licked their wounds, regrouped and gained strength for another Pickett's Charge.

Mm-hmm. That Pickett's Charge, the last-day-of-Gettysburg calamity than broke the Southern war effort once-and-not-quite-for-all.

If you imagine there's anything even remotely new about the current movement to cripple the government, well, bless your heart.

Say hello to our little friends

There's a notion out there that the Tea Party jihadists leading the crusade against a functional federal government represent some new school of grassroots activism and that their dissonance echoes from Wal-Marted plain and Cracker Barrelled valley.

In fact, it's the same old obstructionist strategy that's been pursued by traitorous Southerners in government since long before Robert E. Lee's doomed charge at Gettysburg. It's part of the same soiled fabric that stretches from John C. Calhoun and South Carolina's 1832 Ordinance of Nullification --an argument that essentially said that if a state didn't like a federal law it could simply ignore it-- all the way to the Newt Gingrich-led government shutdown and de facto second paralysis brought about by his presidential impeachment campaign of the 1990s. With stops along the way to roll back Reconstruction, stop black kids from entering white schools, dismember the Voting Rights Act, etc., etc.

Yes, I know Michele Bachmann is from Minnesota and Steve King is from Iowa, but all this proves is that in the 150 or so years since the Civil War, the vituperative Confederate agenda of anti-Americanism has managed to spread its irresistible redneck poison into benighted pockets across the country. Kind of like Waffle House.

But to deny that the current attack on the federal government isn't part of the hidebound Confederate agenda is to ignore the people who have engineered it and whose sedition will be rewarded with reelection

In a piece published earlier this month beneath the headline "32 Republicans Who Caused the Government Shutdown," The Atlantic tallied up the hardliners who have bent the country into going along with their insidious shutdown. Of the 32 it counted--"there's no official 'wacko bird' caucus that keeps a register," pointed out in justifying its own need to do so --20 come from Southern states. (Twenty-two, if you include Arizona, a place that more and more is resembling the South in terms of abysmal public education, obstructionist politics and guns in kindergarten.) That's why although we were all supposed to act shocked and appalled when a Confederate flag showed up in front of the White House during a Tea Party protest last week, nobody actually was.

Among the Atlantic's ignoble menagerie of clampdown Clampetts is North Carolina Representative Mark Meadows, the man rightly identified as the "architect of the brink" and "the man behind the government shutdown," by CNN and others. It was Meadows who in August wrote that open letter to John Boehner and Eric Cantor, then press-ganged 79 of his colleagues to sign, demanding that Congress "repeal ObamaCare in its entirety this year, next year, and until we are successful." It was Meadows who insisted on tying that effort to defunding the government.

Much as Kentucky's Mitch McConnell did in 2010 when he said that the "single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," Meadows' legislative gambit revealed a man and a party absorbed in a classic state of Southern pique. It's a pathology sadly worthy of Calhoun and his whole sorry legacy of tantrum-throwing quack parliamentarians who want to continue enjoying all of the benefits that come with being part of the United States without having to make any of the necessary sacrifices or compromises.

In addition to all the unfair treatment Paula Deen has received from the mean old lamestream media this year, the angry Dixie mob has been galvanized most effectively by still another Southerner, Texas Senator Ted Cruz. The oratorical bar-lowerer is renowned for staging a 21-hour filibuster against Obamacare in the Senate, during which he read "Green Eggs and Ham" to his children. (What's with Texas "My Pet Goat" Republicans turning to children's books in times of national crisis, by the way?)

More notable, however, is the catastrophic defunding strategy Cruz called for in May when he implored the House Appropriations Committee to "abolish the IRS."

This may have sounded like the latest wacko bird statement from yet another phenomenally shortsighted backwater pol with a Gospel zombie constituency to suck up to.

It wasn't.

It was the cotillion debut for the latest strategy in the South's never-say-tie fight against the U.S. government. Having failed through military, social, moral, political, procedural and pretty much every other means to destroy the Union, the Southern star-chamber that can't let go of its antipathy toward America has hit on a new approach.

Take away its money.

It's the Tony Montana philosophy in reverse: "First you take away the money, then you take away the power."

Hey, why not look to "Scarface" for inspiration? The guy was from Florida, after all. And he had the Cubans in his back pocket.

It's not playing in Peoria, but it is in Beijing

Watching this all unfold from abroad somehow made the circus sadder, the clowns even scarier.

While I was in Hong Kong, President Obama canceled a trip during which he was to attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Indonesia and the ASEAN and East Asia Summits in Brunei. Obama blamed the shutdown for canceling appearances at sessions where global leaders gather to figure out who's going to play makeweight in world affairs in coming years and who's going to sit on the sidelines.

In the international press, the dominant theme that emerged from the APEC meetings was how Obama's absence amounted to rolling out the red carpet for China and Russia. Taking the unaccustomed role of dominant players at the event, America's primary global rivals wasted no opportunity to chisel away at American influence, all while giddily sound-biting about the United States' torrential loss of financial and political authority in the world's most robust economic region.

If the anger and narcissism of an influential part of the U.S. government was preventing it from seeing the big picture --no need for the shaky U.S. dollar to continue on as the world's standard currency when by comparison the Chinese yuan looks Rushmore-esque in its rock-solid reliability-- then let's get on with cutting deals with the superpowers who actually seem both super and powerful. Or at least who have an idea about how to handle their business.

I'd call this analysis unanimous, but I suppose somewhere around the tenth or twelfth Google page a more diligent researcher than myself might find a link to some wayward editorialist voicing timid dissent.

But these times aren't for the timid, not outside U.S. shores, anyway.

It's an exciting, almost magisterial era, especially in Asia, where trade pacts are being inked, progress smells like cooperation and it actually feels like the 21st century is underway ...at least for those who want to be a part of it.

Vladimir Putin made the most of his meetings with Chinese president Xi Jinping, crowing about cooperative agreements and tighter bonds between Russia and China.

As a Chinese professor named Wu Fei told Radio Free Asia, "Whenever China and Russia enter into any sort of agreement, this weakens the United States."

But then, so does entering into agreements with a domestic gang that's been working to tear down this country for more than a century and a half.

On that point, at least, everyone in Congress seems to agree.

They'll continue to do so for as long as the patriotic Southern grudge against the United States is permitted to play a serious role in the federal government. So long as that's the case, there's no reason to expect an end to the division, no reason to expect anything new.

Chuck Thompson is the author of "Better Off Without 'Em: A Northern Manifesto for Southern Secession" http://www.salon.com/2013/10/20/just_seced e_already_the_obstructionists_arent_going_anywhere_maybe_we_should/?source=newsletterprint

I could care less about the secession opinion, but the international opinion is something that should perhaps give pause if this writer has any credibility.

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posted October 20, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 20, 2013 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is one of the best cartoons ever.

"show your work"

and chuck's little essay? Cherry on top.

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posted October 21, 2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Majority Of Americans Think It's 'Bad For The Country' That Republicans Control The House


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/21/republicans-control-house_n_4135328.ht ml?ncid=webmail2

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posted October 21, 2013 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Just secede already: The obstructionists aren't going anywhere. Maybe we should"

What makes you think we're going to let you leftists secede? It's far more likely we'll just deport you America hating accidential Americans to a locale more in line with your Socialist leanings.

Cuba is nice this time of year. Michael Moore claims they have a great Socialist health care system you would like and the Castro brothers can probably come up with some sickles that would be perfect fits for your hands so you can find work in their sugar cane fields.

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posted October 22, 2013 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cuba is nice this time of year. Michael Moore claims they have a great Socialist health care system you would like and the Castro brothers can probably come up with some sickles that would be perfect fits for your hands so you can find work in their sugar cane fields.

The plane ticket is on me, Node-y but you have to promise to be my pen pal and tell me all about it

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posted October 22, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Majority Of Americans Think It's 'Bad For The Country' That Republicans Control The House

I see your poll, and add another:
Poll: Major damage to GOP after shutdown, and broad dissatisfaction with government

Also, this is funny:

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posted October 22, 2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 22, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, and fix your link will ya, I'm feeling lazy.

I'm getting a page not found.

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posted October 22, 2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm trying! I don't usually experience any glitches when formatting links. This is weird.

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posted October 22, 2013 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know, it happens~ to me often.

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posted October 22, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh, reading now. I tend to think that this [ultimately] will be good for the sensical.

Many, many, people were severely effected by this staged shutdown. Hopefully engendering a cleaning of house, and senate for that matter.

Personally I would like new rules for filibuster too, but I won't count on it.

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posted October 22, 2013 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found on AG's WP link:

The GOP's narcissism problem

quote:

By Aaron Blake and Sean Sullivan


October 22 at 6:30 am


During the government shutdown, Democrats accused Republicans of waging a politically craven effort to undercut Obamacare at the nation's expense.

As it turns out, Republicans agree.

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll includes a stunning little tidbit: A majority of Republicans think their party¡¦s congressional members are more interested in doing what's best for themselves (51 percent) rather than doing what's best for the country (46 percent).


found in full, here


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posted October 22, 2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Personally I would like new rules for filibuster too, but I won't count on it.

As well as taking a look at that parliamentary rule Republicans implemented to prohibit anyone for calling for a vote without the Speaker's permission.

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posted October 22, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a commenter on the thread I linked about narcissism [which has TONS of pretty graphs] said:

quote:
Let's face it: The GOP now unquestioningly has major problems: These are of a severely neuropathological nature, and apparently there is a strong familial hereditary factor involved. The magnitude of the presenting cognitive dissonance symptoms has yet to be recorded by modern science. Now that the CDC has been re-opened, thankfully, we can determine if the disorder is communicable, as there is also a high morbidity factor involved

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posted October 22, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Too bad we can't post their pretty graphs (as they're not the right format).

There's several great mock definitions of Socialism in the comments, too:


    Socialism: when a brown person receives a government benefit of any kind.

    Socialism: taking a health care intiative developed by the Conservative heritage Foundation and successfully implemented by GOP governor and presidential candidate Mitt Romney, and implementing it nationally

    Socialism: forcing the insurance companies to take on millions of new customers and enriching Big Pharma.

    Socialism: Giving kids basic food, medicine and education, even though they picked the wrong parents.

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posted October 22, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Red State, and no, not satire: http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/16/building-a-coalition-out-of-chaos/

The amount of energy complaining about Ted Cruz or the amount of flyers calling for John Boehner’s head have reached apocalyptic proportions . Truly things are a mess. And no doubt, each faction believes some other faction is responsible for the chaos.

... But they(the public) easily coalesce behind tangible, understandable ideas...It was even proven with Romney, a man that so many in the grassroots despised. Yet they came out and “held their noses” to vote for him because the enemy was identifiable, the cause was understandable, and the strategy was something they could wrap their brains around...

if we can’t, as a movement, coalesce around smaller government, put aside our differences, stop pretending to have a wisdom unachievable by the grassroots, stop pretending to be the arbiters of conservatism calling any detractors “RINOs”, and start working with one another to find and elect the right people with the right plans… then 2014 is going to be a blood bath.

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posted October 23, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even the most gorgeous person in the world can be parodied. What point is it to make fun of a person's looks. It it the sick, black hearts that get me, not the facial features

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Half of all CEOs say that the shutdown and the threat of shutdown set back their plans to hire over the next six months." -Obama
Our ruling

Obama said 50 percent of CEOs are delaying hiring due to the shutdown, which accurately cites the results of a poll sponsored by the Business Roundtable. The survey's limited sampling, though, means the responses aren't necessarily representative of all U.S. businesses.

But the idea that the shutdown affects how businesses think about hiring is more broadly applicable. Experts said it's reasonable that CEOs would be hesitant to hire, given that uncertainty about government fiscal policy can affect consumer confidence. We rate Obama's claim Mostly True.

I never was in favor of shutting down the government. -- (I) voted to fund the government fully." -Marco Rubio
Our ruling

Rubio appears to be making the case that he would have liked to have achieved his goals without having to shut down the government, and that he would have been happy to fund the government fully if doing so was paired with provisions defunding or delaying Obamacare. He may have felt that way, but both of the specific claims he makes are problematic.

His claim that "I never was in favor of shutting down the government" is undercut by two separate comments in which he supported a strategy of opposing Obamacare even if that meant rejecting a bill that would have kept the government open. And on the question of whether he "voted to fund the government fully," he arguably may have done so once, but took the opposite position nine times.

Given the political realities of the budget battle, Rubio's words and actions suggest he wanted Obamacare defunded more than he wanted to keep the government open.

As we noted, where responsibility for the shutdown is concerned, it takes two to tango. But in this case, there's very little to support Rubio's twin claims. We rate his claim Mostly False.

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