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Catalina
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posted October 25, 2013 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is defending Obama? I said I would check it out. Does that mean I have to think Hannity is an on-the-level straight shooter? NO. He has been caught fudging way too many times.

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Catalina
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posted October 25, 2013 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, Randall, I thought it was you who pointed out that the fines are uncollectable at this point and the whole thing will fall apart of its own. Where's the forcing if there's no enforcement?

Maybe it was someone else who posted that thread...

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Randall
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posted October 25, 2013 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I explained this in detail on this Forum already, but I will reiterate. It's an excise tax. If you get a refund, they can grab the fine. They have no enforcement powers otherwise; however, most Americans hear mandate and think they have to pay, and they will pay, especially when they see the ominous looking words on their tax returns, and get a bluff letter from the IRS. The so-called fine is cheaper than getting health insurance that they don't want or feel they need. If you are going to paraphrase me, at least get it right. The reason it will collapse is because it is a Ponzi scheme, and like all such pyramid schemes do, this one will collapse, but sooner rather than later. And when it does, it will leave a wake of huge insurance increases with it. Obamacare can't work without a large base on the pyramid. The young healthy have to buy in to support it. Those young with pre-existing conditions may. But not most of the others.

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Catalina
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posted October 25, 2013 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And probably plenty people are planning on just paying the fine. Many people do not get refunds you know. They are called the self employed. The first few years the fine is negligible anyway.

As to scaring people with the mandate, there are still people in this country who don't even know what the ACA is. How scared do you think they are?

Kentucky, California and Connecticut and New York are going great guns. A lot of the so called dropped coverage and rate hikes are Price Gouging 101 tactics by the insurance companies aided by Hannity et al.

To say no one likes it because one woman was led to say what sounds like that is kind of like saying no one liked a movie because they were irate at not being able to get in, isn't it?

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Randall
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posted October 25, 2013 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They don't have to know what it is. They will find out when tax time gets here. It's hardly negligible past the first year. When all is said and done and the smoke clears from this Socialistic piece of crap, there will be more people without insurance, far less who can afford it, and many who had it and lost it than before it passed. Praise Obama.

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posted October 25, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We;ll see I guess!

As to the operator for all any of us know she was a tea partier who took the job to help discourage people, and got fired for that. Like I said I'll check it out but no one who is making big bucks leading the parade should be taken at their word...

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Catalina
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posted October 25, 2013 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I checked it out. Both phone calls consist of Hannity leading the "witness" and making up a story to suit his agenda ... pitching his anti-obama talking points to her for the audience sake..spouting numbers of horrific prices on the exchange even though no one supposedly can get through to find out what the numbers are??? and mis representing what she has said in his recap ...

Her tale of her firing suggests she was busier trying to call her ride than listening to what was going on

She is employed by a call center and given a script with which to answer folks' questions

Most companies would fire someone so gullible as to allow their product to be trashed on the air! Especially in such a transparently malicious way. Over and over Hannity announces that the people calling for help signing up are being shooed away with a delay time, despite her telling him she also has info with which to help them navigate the site when they do get through. She is not quoting policies or prices or their is no indication she was.

And as I thought, the big complaint is that people can't get onto the website, not that they hate Obamacare.

He actually spent more time talking about the weather than what she was helping people with but she was NOT explaining the different plan to people so the basic premise of this whole attack is FALSE.

Classic Hannity railroading tactics, in fact. So tell me, where is the evidence that Obama or even anyone in the govt had her fired "for speaking the truth"? Hannity was so busy selling the points he wanted the audience to hear, that certainly was not established.

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posted October 31, 2013 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To hear the usual suspects tell the story, everyone loves O'BomberCare.

The facts are very different. Few are signing up and the regime is hiding the sign-up numbers. In fact many more people are signing up for Medicaid than for O'BomberCare...many, many more.

October 31, 2013 6:41 PM
Obamacare enrollments got off to very slow start, documents show

(CBS News) WASHINGTON - For 31 days now, the Obama administration has been telling us that Americans by the millions are visiting the new health insurance website, despite all its problems.

But no one in the administration has been willing to tell us how many policies have been purchased, and this may be the reason: CBS News has learned enrollments got off to an incredibly slow start.

Early enrollment figures are contained in notes from twice-a-day "war room" meetings convened within the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services after the website failed on Oct. 1. They were turned over in response to a document request from the House Oversight Committee.

The website launched on a Tuesday. Publicly, the government said there were 4.7 million unique visits in the first 24 hours. But at a meeting Wednesday morning, the war room notes say "six enrollments have occurred so far."...S I X!

They were with BlueCross BlueShield North Carolina and Kansas City, CareSource and Healthcare Service Corporation.

By Wednesday afternoon, enrollments were up to "approximately 100." By the end of Wednesday, the notes reflect "248 enrollments" nationwide.

The health care exchanges need to average 39,000 enrollees a day to meet the goal of seven million by March 1. The war room notes give a glimpse into some of the reasons customers had problems:

"Direct enrollment (signing up directly on an insurer's website) is not working for any issuers."
"Experian" credit reporting agency is "creating confusion with credit check information."
"Issuer phone numbers are not appearing correctly on the Pay Now page."

The notes leave no doubt that some enrollment figures, which the administration has chosen to keep secret, are available.

"Statistics coming in," said notes from the very first meeting the morning of Oct. 2. Contractor "QSSI has a daily dashboard created every night."

But head of CMS Marilyn Tavenner would not disclose any figures when Rep. Dave Camp, chair of the House Ways and Means Committee, asked earlier this week.

"Chairman Camp, we will have those numbers available in mid-November," she said.

Health and Human Services told CBS News Thursday it's in no position to confirm or discuss enrollment figures because it doesn't have any. A spokesman suggested the numbers obtained by CBS News may not include all the different ways to enroll, such as paper applications. The spokesman also said that enrollment figures in Massachusetts' health care plan started off negligible but then skyrocketed as a deadline neared.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57610328/obamacare-enroll ments-got-off-to-very-slow-start-documents-show/

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posted November 01, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Acoustic should dial 1-800-F***-**YO and see if he can get on NOBama care. Put your money where your lips are, Acoustic

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Randall
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posted November 02, 2013 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
South Park had an interesting show on it this week.

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