posted October 25, 2013 01:48 PM            

Just in case no one noticed at the time - many of you are too young to remember and lack of interest in things that have "always been there" ie don't represent the need to adjust to anything new - Medicare, which millions depend on and find most reassuring, had a messy rollout too.

No it wasn't due to technical difficulties, we didn't have the web then, but most of the same MOs were in operation then, along with another messy rollout...the newly illegal segregation!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-15/medicare-had-messy-rollout-too.html

Yes, from Medicare and Social Security to recognition of brown faces as human, the liberals have IMPOSED so many nasty elements to our society.

While you shake with fear and fury, or rub your hands in glee, reality has little to do with the feeding frenzy going on right now.

The fact that Republicans are busy in the back rooms trying to work out their OWN VERSION OF THE ACA (to be ready when 2016 comes round so they can take credit) the obstruction is ramped up a hundred notches.

Yes the website should have been better. Yes it is a mess. Yes people are frustrated and confused by the efforts of insurance companies to cash in on the lack of any real effort on the part of millions to find out what is even in the law...and numbers are being published despite the supposed inability to find out what the numbers are (that darned website again)

posted October 25, 2013 03:15 PM            

Who would ever have believed the US government would force people to buy something they don't want...and which many can't use?

It's absurd and so, it's entirely justified for Republicans to oppose this jobs killing, hours killing, economy killing piece of crap...which by the way is going to cost at least 3 times what the lying O'Bomber said it would.

And, you can't keep your own insurance policy you like.

And, you can't keep your own doctor whom you like.

posted October 25, 2013 03:26 PM            

The complaints about Medicare were just as bad, and you, jwhop,may have been young then so didn't notice at the time.

Many doctors swore they would not comply - THEN, AS NOW

Many called it Socialism - THEN, AS NOW

Many complained of being FORCED to pay for something by the government THEN AS NOW

One of "heinous" stipulations of Medicare was that hospitals that practiced segregation would not receive funds. Many stood their ground and sabotaged the benefits received by millions THEN, AS NOW

It would have been far simpler to just expand Medicare to all the population, but THAT was even worse. The mess you see today is AT LEAST as much due to obstruction and sabotage as it is to any failings in the law, or even the website.

posted October 25, 2013 03:36 PM            

O'Bomber never said..."If you like your insurance policy you can keep it?

O'Bomber never said..."If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?

O'Bomber never said..."O'BomberCare will cost $900B?

Individually insured Americans aren't being cancelled by their insurance companies...because their policy doesn't have all the add-on features required by O'BomberCare?

The CBO hasn't said about 16,000,000 individually insured Americans will lose their individual policies because of O'BomberCare?

I just love it when leftists attempt to justify the insanity of the most far left radical Marxist Socialist Progressive to ever infest the White House.

posted October 25, 2013 03:52 PM            

The Admin is at least as responsible for the current mess as the obstructionists and saboteurs...sound better that way around?

posted October 25, 2013 04:41 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
O'BomberCare is the worst law going back to 1900.

Who would ever have believed the US government would force people to buy something they don't want...and which many can't use?

It's absurd and so, it's entirely justified for Republicans to oppose this jobs killing, hours killing, economy killing piece of crap...which by the way is going to cost at least 3 times what the lying O'Bomber said it would.

And, you can't keep your own insurance policy you like.

And, you can't keep your own doctor whom you like.

And, about 16,000,000..that's 16 million for the math challenged...individuals are going to lose their insurance policies because of O'Bomber's Abomination. That more loss of insurance than O'Bomber is ever likely to sign up for his piece of crap.

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posted October 25, 2013 11:40 PM            

Yes, Single Payer does put every citizen under the thumb of government. Every citizen is then dependent on the government for even the most basic health care.

Perhaps you totally trust government! I haven't, I don't and I won't.

What a good little slave you would be Catalina/katatonic!

posted October 26, 2013 11:31 AM            

Of course if i only looked at the North America section, it would be in the us, wouldn't it? A fitting metaphor, hehe, did you look at the world map for yourself?

I have no doubts where I was born, raisedand identify, jwhop, unlike Mixhelle Bachmann I've never applied for a second passport, and unlike some people.I don't consider I have another homeland to run to when the **** hits the fan here. Thoigh I qualify for citizenship in Israel and will always have places to go in England, and Ireland.

posted October 26, 2013 01:53 PM            

What has happened with the law is that many of the largest employers are jockeying for how little they can offer for employees.

The days of our mothers and fathers being cared for by employers are long gone, oh, wait, most workers weren't provided for to begin with. Sick leave, maternity leave, all of that came through unions and the government. Now, some companies offer maternity leave for the father, few and far between in the U.S. it happens elsewhere though....like EUROPE.

And same as it ever was~ those mega corporations are pulling the plug as fast as they can- on benefits.

posted October 26, 2013 10:57 PM            

"What has happened with the law is that many of the largest employers are jockeying for how little they can offer for employees."..Node

For instance, Socialists are totally out in left field when assessing competition. It never occurs to Socialists that companies must hold down costs...corporations too...to remain competitive in the marketplace.

O'BomberCare is a corporate and business busting piece of crap which will make American businesses uncompetitive with other nations in pricing goods and services.

posted October 26, 2013 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
How disgusting the Socialists don't have a clue about business...even those Socialists living in the US.

"What has happened with the law is that many of the largest employers are jockeying for how little they can offer for employees."..Node

For instance, Socialists are totally out in left field when assessing competition. It never occurs to Socialists that companies must hold down costs...corporations too...to remain competitive in the marketplace.

O'BomberCare is a corporate and business busting piece of crap which will make American businesses uncompetitive with other nations in pricing goods and services.

Perhaps that's the plan in the first place. To Socialists of all stripes, [b]AMERICA IS THE PROBLEM IN THE WORLD and needs to be taken down.[/B]

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So true and brilliant, as usual!

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posted October 27, 2013 11:36 AM            

Your wrong if you think I don't understand the difference between costs and profits.
In order to keep profits going into the pockets of overpaid CEO's- for one example- costs [employee benefits] must be kept to a minimum.