posted October 29, 2013 07:15 AM            

Oh, aside from the low information voter I mean. There's always that percentage of the population who never pull their heads out.

So, the White House website is still lying..."if you like your plan you can keep it and you don't have to change a thing..."

White House Website Still Promising You Can Keep Your Health Insurance If You Like It…

Yeah, guys, you might want to update that.

Via WhiteHouse.gov:

posted October 29, 2013 07:27 AM            

We have the usual suspects here, Jwhop. They keep us with a reality check on the Low information voter. God Bless them

PS. Can I say God in this Forum

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posted October 29, 2013 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Word in this morning: Over two million policies canceled so far.

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In Alaska, only 3 people signed up. The scrubbed the whole thing, if I understood it right.

HOWEVER, NObama's plan for is to destroy private insurance companies and he is doing it.

IMPEACH

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posted October 29, 2013 10:43 AM            

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posted October 29, 2013 07:34 PM            

What does this mean?

1) It means that insurance companies who are cancelling their members are doing so in flagrant disregard to the law. Those policies that were in effect in 2010 are eligible for grandfathering, in other words, they don't have to be changed to meet the new regulations. The Insurers are ignoring that provision and telling their customers they have to pay more to meet the NEW regulations.

2) It means that in the time between 2010 and now, many insurance companies have altered the policies that were existing then to the extent they no longer qualify for grandfathering.

Whether that is because they didn't read the law and jumped to get the most they could for their service before it went into effect, or that they just understand how few people understand those provisions and are making hay while the sun don't shine, it is STILL Price Gouging 101

by the Insurance Companies.

Meanwhile the higher prices on some exchanges (but not those that have done their homework seriously) cover a great deal more than those old Grandfather policies that cost next to nothing.

So Obama wasn't lying about the law, and probably did know what the Insurance Companies were getting up to ... but that is not against the law, ie he can't tell them to do the right thing by their customers, and he can't force people to acquaint themselves with a law when APPARENTLY THEY WOULD RATHER LISTEN TO THE PANICMONGERS than take responsibility themselves.

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posted October 29, 2013 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Not to mention the fact that while it sounds like a huge number of people, it is a very small percentage of the population that has had said cancellations.

The Health Services Professional quoted in the article really should be ashamed of himself...or do his homework.

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posted October 29, 2013 08:36 PM            

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posted October 29, 2013 10:47 PM            

People have been duped by the insurance companies, and some employers, if they still have their old plan they don't have to change it but they have to tell the insurance company they're trying it on. The law specifically states they can be grandfathered in unless they have fallen for the company changing their policy in the listed ways in between '10 and now.

If the IRS said you owed them more than you earned last year would you just sit back and let them get away with it? No way would I allow my insurance co do that to me if I knew my rights...which these people don't because they took the word of the Pres at face value, or swallowed the smear campaign whole.

posted October 29, 2013 11:21 PM            

16 million Americans with individual policies eventually cancelled is just a drop in the bucket!

But wait until the employer mandate kicks in next year and millions more have their insurance policies cancelled because of O'BomberCare.

Oh, but wait, O'Bomber said...If you like your insurance policy...YOU CAN KEEP IT AND IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR.

Gross lying by the Marxist Messiah because you can't keep your insurance policy you like and you can't keep your doctor whom you like.

posted October 30, 2013 05:39 AM            

IMPEACH

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posted November 02, 2013 12:46 AM            

The Governor pulls no punches in her latest piece:

President Obama flew in to Boston today to deliver another “ShamWow”-style infomercial for Obamacare, and it went about as well as his entourage’s snarled traffic debacle in Beantown.

As millions of Americans are being kicked off their desired insurance plans and seeing their premiums skyrocket, the President had a lot of ‘splaining to do today. For starters we anticipated a Presidential apology for lying to Americans repeatedly when he promised things like, “If you like your current health care plan, you can keep it.” Make no mistake, he knew he was lying when he said that. And make no further mistake, after five years of false Obama claims, no one should actually expect contrition on this administration’s part.

Bloomberg reports that in June of 2010, the administration knew millions would be kicked off existing healthcare plans due to Obamacare; but President Obama continued to knowingly deceive the American people with repeated claims that if we liked our current plan we could keep it.

So, finally busted, did the President apologize? Was remorse and sympathy shown for Americans who now can’t afford health insurance thanks to Obamacare? Nope. He instead informed us that Americans who receive cancellation notices have been on “substandard” plans supplied by “bad apple” insurers. That’s right. Obama didn’t lie to you when he said, “if you like your plan, you can keep it.” Why? Because, you sillies, you DIDN’T REALLY like the plan you chose for yourselves! No arguing. Barack Obama knows best and he’ll tell you whether you actually liked your insurance plan or not. If you’re an elderly bachelor, your old plan was clearly “substandard” because it didn’t offer maternity care. What’s that you say? You don’t need maternity care? Well, according to the President today, he says you do, and any insurance plan that doesn’t offer it is a “junk” plan provided by a “bad apple” insurer.

But don’t worry, the President also promised that only “rich” people making $250,000 or more will see their premium costs rise. This lie is so appalling and so easily debunked that the brazenness with which he made it is simply breathtaking. But who will hold him accountable for it? Media, you know I love you… so let me help you save your hide with the American public by suggesting you fact-check that.

Despite the Obamacare rollout disaster and the broken government website (which HHS Secretary Sebelius admitted is a “debacle” in her testimony before Congress today), the President gleefully highlighted the few people signing up for Obamacare as indicative of his socialized medicine’s “success.” He neglected to mention that the government is forcing Americans to sign up for his program or pay fines that will increase each year we fail to do so.

For sheer chutzpah, the President closed his speech by praising America’s “rugged individualism.” Because nothing says “rugged individualism” like heavy-handed big government forcing individuals to buy a product they don’t want and arrogantly telling them they didn’t really like the product they wisely chose for themselves and could afford.

Thanks for the infomercial, Mr. President. I don’t know anyone who wants your “ShamWow” product, but the IRS will make sure we call that toll free number or go online to order it right now…. well, just as soon as your impossibly broken $600 million website is fixed and your phones lines aren’t busy.

Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner.