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Washington (AFP) - US President Barack Obama on Friday signed an executive order requiring government departments to take steps to prepare for "extreme weather" and other impacts of climate change.

The order set up a task force for recommendations on how American states and cities can best prepare for the environmental impacts of global warming.

"The impacts of climate change .... are already affecting communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public health across the nation," Obama said in the order.

"These impacts are often most significant for communities that already face economic or health-related challenges, and for species and habitats that are already facing other pressures."

Obama named symptoms of climate change as an increase in long periods of excessively high temperatures, more heavy downpours, more wildfires and severe droughts, permafrost thawing, ocean acidification, and rising sea levels.

The task force includes seven Democratic state governors and the Republican governor of Guam, a US territory that is vulnerable to rising sea levels in the Pacific Ocean.

Also on the panel are the mayors of a group of major American cities.

The order may be unpopular with some politicians in the Republican Party where skepticism of global warming runs high, and where there is opposition to other executive actions Obama has taken as part of his climate change agenda.

Obama tasked the panel with finding ways to modernize federal programs to support climate resistance investments and to prepare and manage land and waterways to resist climate change.

He also called on the panel to provide data and tools to measure preparedness for climate change and to sum up plans for various scenarios.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-orders-government-prepare-climate-change-170119534.html

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Alabama:
Alabama experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 14 counties and a total of 23 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 15 counties and a total of 20 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 2 counties and a total of 3 broken snowfall records
About 72% of the state's counties now face higher risks of water shortages by mid-century as the result of climate change.11
Drought has increased 12-14% in the region since 1970.12
Sea level rise and coastal flooding jeopardizes the infrastructure of coastal cities like Mobile.13
Major disasters have been declared in the state nearly 20 times since 2000, due to flooding, severe storms, or hurricanes that cost millions of dollars in damages.14
Changing rainfall washes nutrients into waterways and, along with rising temperatures, can increase risks of toxic algal blooms in the Gulf; these can threaten the safety of seafood consumption and ocean use for beachgoers.15
Nearly 178,000 people live in the 4 counties where record average summertime temperatures set records in 2010.5
Summer temperatures could rise as much as 3-7°F (2-4°C) with the July heat index rising 10-25°F (6-14°C).6
Cities like Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile are vulnerable to heat waves.7 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/al.asp#airpollution

Alaska
Alaska experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 7 counties and a total of 15 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 9 counties and a total of 23 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 7 counties and a total of 12 broken snowfall records
Lakes in southern Alaska have declined from permafrost thawing and evaporation.10
Rising temperatures are causing harmful algal blooms to grow in tundra ponds, diminishing drinking water supplies.11
The state is expected to become 10-30 percent drier by end of century.12
Coastal communities like Point Hope are at risk for major flooding, as melting permafrost and coastal erosion threatens homes and infrastructure.13 (see USA Today article I linked below)
Combined sewer overflows are a health risk for Juneau.14
Major disasters have been declared in the state nearly 20 times since 2000 due to flooding and severe storms.15 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/ak.asp#airpollution http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/08/alaska-sinks--climate-change-thaws-permafrost/2794255/

Arizona
Arizona experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 7 counties and a total of 20 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 7 counties and a total of 19 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 2 counties and a total of 5 broken snowfall records
Extreme drought
Record-breaking wildfires
Warmer temperatures in the winters could cause more precipitation to fall as rain instead of snow in mountain regions -- raising stream flows and potential for floods.17
Major disasters have been declared in the state 7 times since 2000, due to flooding and severe storms.18
Water levels dropped 2/3 in Lake Powell, a Colorado River reservoir, from 2000-2005. It's currently only half full.13
About 93% of counties face higher risks of water shortages by mid-century, and some areas will likely see limitations on water availability as demand exceeds supply by 2050.14
Dry conditions fuel out-of-control wildfires that could increase in western states 54% by 2050.15
In 2002, the largest fires in the state's history burned through nearly 470,000 acres and cost $28 million.16
Several stations in south central Arizona reported average temperatures in summer 2010 that were among the 5 hottest ever recorded.7
In Phoenix, the number of hours per summer day that the temperature exceeds 100°F has doubled in the last 50 years.8
Heat-related deaths are the highest of any state -- at 3-7 times the national average.9 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/az.asp#airpollution

Arkansas
Arkansas experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 33 counties and a total of 84 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 21 counties and a total of 30 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 14 counties and a total of 17 broken snowfall records
Multi-million dollar losses from extreme flooding
Extreme drought
Fall precipitation has increased 30 percent in the region over the last century.13
Major disasters have been declared in the state nearly 15 times since 2000, due to flooding, severe storms, or hurricanes that cost millions of dollars in damages.14 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/ar.asp#airpollution

California
California experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 11 counties and a total of 15 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 26 counties and a total of 60 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 6 counties and a total of 19 broken snowfall records
During the past century, sea levels along the coast have risen about 7 inches, and further rises and storm surge could jeopardize coastal cities' infrastructure.17
Combined sewer overflows are a health risk for 3 communities, including Sacramento and San Francisco.18
The state has been declared a disaster area 6 times since 2000, due to damage from severe storms and flooding.19
About 83% of the state's counties now face higher risks of water shortages by mid-century as the result of climate change.14
Parts of the state are likely to see limitations on water availability as demand exceeds supply by 2050.15
Dry conditions fuel out-of-control wildfires across the state; the number of fires is expected to increase by 55% by late-century.16
An extreme heat wave in 2006 sent an excess 16,000 people to the emergency room.7 Nearly 150 people died from heat-related illnesses that July.8
By the end of the century, there could be up to 100 more days per year with temperatures above 90°F (32°C) in Los Angeles and above 95°F (35°C) in Sacramento.9
By mid-century, extreme temperatures could cause two to three times more heat-related deaths.10
More than 90% of the population already lives in areas that violate state air quality standards.3 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/ca.asp#airpollution

Colorado experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 9 counties and a total of 11 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 14 counties and a total of 21 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 5 counties and a total of 6 broken snowfall records
Extreme drought
Warmer temperatures in the winters could cause more precipitation to fall as rain instead of snow in mountain regions– raising stream flows and potential for floods.14
The state has been declared a disaster area twice since 2000, due to damage from severe storms.15
About 55% of the state's counties now face higher risks of water shortages by mid-century as the result of climate change.11
Parts of the state are likely to see limitations on water availability as demand exceeds supply by 2050.12
Dry conditions fuel out-of-control wildfires across the state; in 2002, the state had the driest year on record, and large fires killed 9 firefighters and burned nearly 1 million acres.13 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/co.asp#airpollution

Connecticut
Connecticut experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 5 counties and a total of 14 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 4 counties and a total of 9 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 6 counties and a total of 12 broken snowfall records
Multi-million dollar losses from extreme flooding and hurricane damage
3 billion dollars in damage from October snowstorm
Snowiest January on record

Communities are at risk for flooding from sea level rise and increasing rainfall. Precipitation is expected to rise across the region 20-30%.13
Combined sewer overflows are a health risk for 5 communities, including Hartford and Norwich.14
The state has been declared a disaster area 3 times since 2000, due to severe storms and massive flooding -- including April 2007 floods that cost about $6.4 million in damages.15
Changing rainfall washes nutrients into waterways and, along with rising temperatures, can increase risks of harmful, toxic algal blooms in coastal waters.16 http://www.nrdc.org/health/climate/ct.asp

Delaware
Delaware experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 1 county and a total of 1 broken heat record
Record-breaking rainfall in 2 counties and a total of 2 broken rainfall records
Sea-level rise and storm surge could jeopardize coastal cities' infrastructure. The Chesapeake Bay region is ranked the 3rd most vulnerable to sea level rise, behind Louisiana and Southern Florida.11
The state has been declared a disaster area 4 times since 2000, due to severe storms and massive flooding -- including a July 2006 storm that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages.13

Florida
Florida experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 20 counties and a total of 34 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 22 counties and a total of 27 broken rainfall records
Extreme drought
Sea level is a critical concern -- a rise of just 3-6 inches would jeopardize cities' infrastructure and water supplies -- especially in Southeast Florida.12
The state has been declared a disaster area 19 times since 2000, due to damage from hurricanes, storm surge, heavy rains, and flooding.13

Georgia
Georgia experienced in 2011:
Record-breaking heat in 11 counties and a total of 17 broken heat records
Record-breaking rainfall in 10 counties and a total of 14 broken rainfall records
Record-breaking snow in 6 counties and a total of 7 broken snowfall records
Extreme drought
Record-breaking wildfires

Major disasters have been declared in the state 7 times since 2000, due to flooding, severe storms, or hurricanes that cost millions of dollars in damages.15
31 counties have ragweed pollution and 15 counties have unhealthy smog levels; Bibb, Clarke, Dawson, and Fulton counties suffer from both.3

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You get the picture. It would be fair to compare these results with years prior to the noticeable global warming, but I don't have access to those stats. Such lack of access shouldn't fool anyone into thinking that the climate is (and should be) of minimal concern. In just this list of 10 states we have almost 100 hundred disasters or major disasters.

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"The impacts of climate change .... are already affecting communities, natural resources, ecosystems, economies and public health across the nation," Obama said in the order.

"These impacts are often most significant for communities that already face economic or health-related challenges, and for species and habitats that are already facing other pressures."

Obama named symptoms of climate change as an increase in long periods of excessively high temperatures, more heavy downpours, more wildfires and severe droughts, permafrost thawing, ocean acidification, and rising sea levels.



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posted November 02, 2013 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sea levels are not rising. Weather patterns are cyclical and have nothing to do with rises in CO2 that have not even occurred in the past 17 years by the IPCC's own admission. And even if CO2 were causing anything (which it isn't), man contributes but a fraction of CO2. The sky is not falling.

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posted November 02, 2013 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really expect more from you than isolated weather events and "heat waves" in a few states, which you well know has nothing whatsoever to do with global temperatures.

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posted November 02, 2013 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry that my barbecue grill causes so many hurricanes. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I am selling, if you want it for a steal of a deal.

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posted November 02, 2013 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should go back another year to 2010. It snowed in 49 states, even in the dessert. Sounds like global warming to me!

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posted November 02, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the worst case scenario? That warming is not msnmade and we spend a lot of money preparing for disasters that happen because of sun activity? Volcanos under the ocean? Meanwhile cleaning up the air and water and developing ultimately more efficient energy?

Or that we do nothing until disaster strikes, as w fukushima?

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posted November 02, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The worst that can happen is destroyed companies, ruined lives, and wasted trillions on a lie (that could be spent more productively elsewhere).

Regional data from states in the US or anywhere else in the world has no bearing on global temperature. Such an argument is beyond absurd.

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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world."

When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.

Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.

One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.

•For more information, see Dr Mörner on YouTube (Google Mörner, Maldives and YouTube); or read on the net his 2007 EIR interview "Claim that sea level is rising is a total fraud"; or email him – morner@pog.nu – to buy a copy of his booklet 'The Greatest Lie Ever Told'

Fined, frozen and now jailed

The Marine Fisheries Agency was certainly onto a winner when it enlisted the aid of the Assets Recovery Agency in its ruthless war against our fishermen. In December 2007 Charles McBride and his son Charles, from Kilkeel in Northern Ireland, were fined £385,000 for under-declaring catches of whitefish and prawns in the Irish Sea, threatening the loss of their homes and boat. But the Assets Recovery Agency, using powers designed to recover money from drug dealers, also froze all their assets. To pay the fines, the McBrides tried to borrow against their assets. Now, for this effort to pay the fines, Liverpool Crown Court has sentenced the two men to two and three months in gaol for “contempt of court”.

Blown away

The Climate Change Secretary, Ed Miliband, timed his jibe impeccably last week when he said that opposing wind farms is as “socially unacceptable” as “not wearing a seatbelt”. Britain’s largest windfarm companies are pulling out of wind as fast as they can. Despite 100 per cent subsidies, the credit crunch and technical problems spell an end to Gordon Brown’s £100 billion dream of meeting our EU target to derive 35 per cent of our electricity from “renewables” by 2020.

Meanwhile the Government gives the go-ahead for three new 1,000 megawatt gas-fired power stations in Wales. Each of them will generate more than the combined average output (700 megawatts) of all the 2,400 wind turbines so far built. The days of the “great wind fantasy” will soon be over.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5067351/Rise-of-sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

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posted November 02, 2013 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Sorry that my barbecue grill causes so many hurricanes. I have a bridge in Brooklyn I am selling, if you want it for a steal of a deal.


ROLFL

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posted November 02, 2013 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/sea_level_not_rising.pdf

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posted November 03, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sea levels are not rising.

I don't know why you continue to deny measured changes.

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Weather patterns are cyclical and have nothing to do with rises in CO2 that have not even occurred in the past 17 years by the IPCC's own admission.

Are the oceans warming unnaturally?

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I really expect more from you than isolated weather events and "heat waves" in a few states, which you well know has nothing whatsoever to do with global temperatures.

This would be clever if I weren't illustrating for you the incidence of weather-related catastrophy that's at the heart of a Presidential call to action.

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Regional data from states in the US or anywhere else in the world has no bearing on global temperature. Such an argument is beyond absurd.

That's funny. That's one of Jwhop's go-to arguments, and I've never seen you disagree with him on global warming.
Not only so, but regional data does make-up the whole of measuring the global temperature. You can't reach a global measurement on warming without regional data.

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Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'

Except that it's not. http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/critical-issues-sea-level-rise/ http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/ http://e360.yale.edu/feature/rising_waters_how_fast_and_how_far_will_sea_levels_rise /2702/
The list could go on and on.

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http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/sea_level_not_rising.pdf

From said publication (first thing, mind you):

    At most, global average sea level is rising at a rate equivalent to 2-3 inches per century. It is probably not rising at all.

Using "probably" is problematic for a scientific paper that set out to correct the known science and data of the day. Interestingly, Alaska seems to be rising at a rate greater than the ocean rise as ice melts. It's like it's springing back into place after losing all of that ice weight.

EDIT: Since I still had Nils-Axel's paper up I decided to run a search on criticism of his work: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Nils-Axel-Morner-wrong-about-sea-level-rise.html http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/dec/02/spectator-sea-level-claims http://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/damning-evidence-of-fraud-by-nils-axel-morner/ http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2011/12/rising-incredulity-at-the-spectator%E2%80%99s-use-of-dubious-sea-level-claims

You get the point.

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posted November 03, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks AG for the 2X dose of reality.

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Let's see...8500 years ago (8.5 centuries) people walked across the English channel...somehow the "average of a couple inche s per century doesn't hild up over the longer term.

Ie, what has been so for 50 years is not necessarily relevant to what is happeningtoday or cpuld happen tomorrow...= sloppy science.

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I can hardly believe you all are still hashing over climate change

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posted November 03, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's sloppy science is these computer models AG relies upon. I posted here a while back from the person who actually measures oceanic levels. I am trying to find that article.

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Don't misrepresent me, Randall. I don't rely on models. I rely on science as you should.

The sea level is rising. Any research facility in the world that measures such things will say the same. You're chasing an imaginary thing here.

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posted November 03, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't rely on models. I rely on science as you should.

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posted November 04, 2013 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess we are all doomed.

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posted November 04, 2013 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, those you rely on rely on models.

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posted November 05, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They rely on measurements. See the NOAA link I posted for you on one of these myriad distraction threads.

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posted November 07, 2013 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They add fudge numbers to the data. You call that accurate measurements?

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posted November 07, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They don't. You're inserting falsehood, not them.

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posted November 07, 2013 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's going to be fun watching your paradigm shift as the alarmists fail and fail again.

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I guess we are all doomed.


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