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Randall
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posted November 06, 2013 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that true horror stories of Obamacare's wrecking ball are finally reaching the public, the White House doesn't like "anecdotes." Live by tale-telling; die by tale-telling.

On Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney huffed that stage-four gallbladder cancer survivor Edie Littlefield Sundby's personal account in The Wall Street Journal of seeing her health insurance plan canceled and her access to doctors cut off was "sensational." Not a shred of compassion for her predicament. No sorrow for her loss. Must. Attack. Messenger.

There are millions out there like Sundby who are using Facebook, Twitter, Twitchy.com and a new website called MyCancellation.com to share their plights. White House flacks and hacks are working overtime to "debunk" their experiences, bash insurance companies and deride individual market consumers losing their plans as stupid dupes whose stories don't add up.

Here's the thing. This Alinsky-steeped administration has relied on an endless stream of sensationalized, phony personal dramas to sell Obamacare. Last month, Organizing for Action (previously Obama for America) promoted the "success story" of Chad Henderson, a supposedly random young person who miraculously enrolled in Obamacare while everyone else in America experienced major tech meltdowns and sticker shock.

Turned out Lying Chad was actually an OFA volunteer who hadn't really enrolled in Obamacare yet because he was "joking." No matter. Yesterday, Obama appeared before OFA to solicit even more stories from the group to help propagandize Obamacare. A refresher course on the White House Fable Factory's greatest hits:

—Stanley Ann Dunham. Obama cited his mom's deathbed fight with her insurer several times over the years to support the Obamacare ban on pre-existing condition exclusions by insurers. During a 2008 debate, he shared her plight: "For my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they're saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don't have to pay her treatment, there's something fundamentally wrong about that." But New York Times reporter Janny Scott discovered that Dunham's health insurer had in fact reimbursed her medical expenses with nary an objection. The actual coverage dispute centered on a separate disability insurance policy.

—Otto Raddatz. In 2009, Obama publicized the plight of this Illinois cancer patient, who supposedly died after he was dropped from his Fortis/Assurant Health insurance plan when his insurer discovered an unreported gallstone the patient hadn't known about. The truth? He got the treatment he needed in 2005 and lived for nearly four more years.

—Robin Beaton. Also in 2009, Obama claimed Beaton, a breast cancer patient, lost her insurance after "she forgot to declare a case of acne." In fact, she failed to disclose a previous heart condition and did not list her weight accurately, but had her insurance restored anyway after intense public lobbying.

—John Brodniak. A 23-year-old unemployed Oregon sawmill worker, Brodniak's health woes were spotlighted by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof as a textbook argument for Obamacare. Brodniak reportedly was diagnosed with cavernous hemangioma, a neurological condition, and was allegedly turned away by emergency room doctors. Kristof called the case "monstrous" and decried opponents of the Democrats' health care proposals as heartless murderers. The truth? Brodniak not only had coverage through Oregon's Medicaid program, but was also a neurology patient at the prestigious Oregon Health and Science University in Portland (a safety-net institution that accepts all Medicaid patients). Kristof never retracted the legend.

—Marcelas Owens. An 11-year-old boy from Seattle, Owens took a coveted spot next to the president in March 2010 when Obamacare was signed into law. Marcelas' 27-year-old mother, Tiffany Owens, died of pulmonary hypertension. The family said the single mother of three lost her job as a fast-food manager and lost her insurance. She died in 2007 after receiving emergency care and treatment throughout her illness. Progressive groups (for whom Marcelas' relatives worked) dubbed Marcelas an "insurance abuse survivor." But there wasn't a shred of evidence that any insurer had "abused" the boy or his mom. Further, Washington State already offered a plethora of existing government assistance programs to laid-off and unemployed workers like Marcelas' mom. The family and its public relations agents never explained why she didn't enroll.

—Natoma Canfield. The White House made the Ohio cancer patient a poster child for Obamacare in 2010 after she wrote a letter complaining about skyrocketing premiums and the prospect of losing her home. After Obama gave Canfield a shout-out at a health care rally in Strongsville, Ohio, and promised to control costs, officials at the renowned Cleveland Clinic, which is treating her, made clear that they would "not put a lien on her home" and that she was eligible for a wide variety of state aid and private charity care.

Phony manufactured tales built Obamacare. Real stories of Obamacare wreckage will bring it down.

Michelle Malkin is the author of "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks and Cronies" (Regnery 2010). Her e-mail address is malkinblog@gmail.com.

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posted November 06, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if you think about it, there -almost assuredly- will be more positive stories coming out of Obamacare over time than what you may be imagining.

All of these people will suddenly have free preventative care, and it would be remarkable if that didn't serve to catch anything [that would otherwise go uncaught due to not having insurance].

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On Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney huffed that stage-four gallbladder cancer survivor Edie Littlefield Sundby's personal account in The Wall Street Journal of seeing her health insurance plan canceled and her access to doctors cut off was "sensational." Not a shred of compassion for her predicament. No sorrow for her loss. Must. Attack. Messenger.

We do already have a thread about Edie Littlefield Sundby called You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor. I responded on that thread with an update on Ms. Sundby, and it may not have been what Conservatives want to hear (hence my questioning of whether there was a drive to bury things).

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posted November 06, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The drive to bury is in the Obama camp. You can't spin millions of unhappy voters.

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posted November 06, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NoBama does not care who is unhappy. He ruined the insurance companies. He will ruin healthcare very shortly. The transformation of America is the destroying of America.

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posted November 06, 2013 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The transformation of America is the destroying of America.

By your logic, we've long been destroyed.

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posted November 06, 2013 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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By your logic, we've long been destroyed.

Very soon, my Friend.

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posted November 06, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you're right. We've completely lost it, and there's no way American could conceivably adapt to change as it has in the past. Oh, isn't this just terrible?

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posted November 06, 2013 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm more optimistic. We are seeing what the Liberal dream creates. Disillusionment is finally setting in. Next year, we will boot out many of them at the polls. And we can fix things with a good four to eight years.

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posted November 06, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except that it's not the liberal dream. In the liberal dream we pay a little more in taxes and health care is free. That's not what occurred here. This is following Conservative ideas to their logical end.

If this were a game of chess, this would be a pretty decent first move, because it's putting the opposition's idea forward while maintaining the absolute ability to point out that this was Republican's idea. As much as Conservatives seem to hate it, they weren't able to eek out a victory over Obama over the issue, which looks like a repudiation of modern Conservative ideas about reforming health care. If people aren't satisfied that Conservatives have ANY good ideas about health care, where will change have to come from? That's right: Democrats.

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posted November 06, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voters were still disillusioned. But nothing wakes people up like when things hit home for them through their pocketbooks.

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posted November 06, 2013 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's OBAMAcare, pal. It wasn't voted on by a single Republican. We tried numerous times to defund it. The Democratic stamp if approval is on it. The Democratic party will stand and fall on it. Good luck. It's gonna be bad. Even Clinton wants to distance herself from Obama. Obamacare is the best thing that could have happened to the Republican party. Give Liberals free reign and let them run with it. The proof is in the pudding. Time for the proverbial pendulum to swing back to the right.

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posted November 06, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the Affordable Care Act, Randall. Yes, only Democrats passed it, but there simply is no denying that this is Democrats compromising to Republican ideas. There's also no denying that Republicans have yet to see a referendum on their health care ideas...something Obama has received twice.

We can only wait to see what Democrats or Republicans will do to better or worsen their chances for next election.

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posted November 06, 2013 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been affectionately referred to as Obamacare, even by Obama.

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posted November 07, 2013 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why compromise to Republican ideas? They didn't need a single Republican vote. No, this was a Liberal creation and a dismal Liberal failure.

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No, this was a Liberal creation and a dismal Liberal failure.

This I agree with and it feels like poetic justice or karma.
Being shoved down the throats of Americans, it back fired horribly.
I sincerely hope it will find a balance and be a positive move but my expectations are not very high.

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posted November 07, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's the Affordable Care Act, Randall. Yes, only Democrats passed it, but there simply is no denying that this is Democrats compromising to Republican ideas. There's also no denying that Republicans have yet to see a referendum on their health care ideas...something Obama has received twice.

We can only wait to see what Democrats or Republicans will do to better or worsen their chances for next election.


NOW, he wants to change the name

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posted November 07, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see that you don't understand why anyone would compromise if they didn't HAVE to..that shows your worldview, but not everyone's. Obama has been calling for bipartisan government since his first campaign and that is what he was trying to achieve but those who can't understand that can't see it. It's all take whatever you can get I guess...

However there are lawsuits going on against insurers who basically railroaded their customers into changing their plans and caused them to lose their "grandfather" status. This "salesmanship" by insurers and the Republican sabotage that basically caused the website to be useless and people to lose their insurance, is being fixed.

There are hundreds of thousands of people already in place to take advantage of the ACA - named Obamacare by the Republicans and accepted as such by Obama JOKINGLY - and all the sabotage is basically going to be for naught.

As Obama said, he's okay with it being named after him, but when it's on the ground and working, watch how fast people stop calling it Obamacare.

If you see everyone as "on the take" all the time, that is what you will conclude from the facts, but that isn't necessarily what everyone else is doing.

However having compromised up front in the earlier years and been stonewalled anyway, Obama is not so ready to throw all the bones to Repubs anymore. This plan is definitely the way REpublicans suggested healthcare reform should look but they won't say so until he is out of office...or its success makes them green with envy. Then, as he predicted, they will stop calling it Obamacare.

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What do you mean, "Why compromise to Republican ideas?" Obviously, they were attempting to make it more palatable to Conservatives. When Newt Gingrich talked health care reform in the 90's the individual mandate was the thing. Later Mitt Romney actually put it in place. How is it in the tiniest way difficult for you to see the clear progression here? They knew health care reform was popular in the polls even across parties. They knew Conservatives hate it when Democrats try to tackle health care reform. The people voted Democrat, so they did it, but in an effort to at least try not to be offensive they went with a plan that included long-standing Conservative ideas.

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This I agree with and it feels like poetic justice or karma.

It may be in the end. I still think that this is an ok start to the conversation. If the country wants to try other things, I'm cool with that, too. I would prefer that people be constructive about it in dealing with it.

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NOW, he wants to change the name

No. I don't particularly care about the name, but if someone's trying to say that it belongs to Democrats because of the name, that's inaccurate.

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posted November 07, 2013 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it belongs to the Democrats because they passed it! Duh!

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posted November 07, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you should have started with that rather than, "It's OBAMAcare, pal."

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posted November 07, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Romneycare (also passed by Democrats) mandate "eliminates freeloaders" (Romney's words). The Obamacare mandate is "socialism".

Both come from Conservative thinktanks and were first pushed by Conservative politicians.

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posted November 07, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Perhaps you should have started with that rather than, "It's OBAMAcare, pal."


Are we a wee bit touchy?


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posted November 07, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because it's Obama's legacy achievement, and he will never sign off on a repeal of it. The term Obamacare signifies this.

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posted November 07, 2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Obamacare rather succinctly signifies that it's a Democrat piece of legislation. It shouldn't require any qualifiers.

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It was the Repubs and pundits who named it Obamacare and he is right that when it becomes acceptable, as use and experience will achieve...and hopefully improvements will be made!...they won't call it Obamacare any more, in fact they will probably start CROWING about it's Republican origins.

Not one Dem including Obama has ever said it doesn't need doctoring lol, but it is a step in the right direction. And those "hands off my Medicare" folk who objected to it so much are the same or counterparts of the people who called Medicare "socialized medicine" and now are so protective of it

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