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Ami Anne
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posted November 22, 2013 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is some self serving bs there. I thought you were a Linda Goodman fan. Paying people a pittance so they need foodstamps paid for by the taxpayer is Scrooge territory. Turning around and asking them to donate to the hardest up among them instead if giving Holiday bonuses is an insult.

Half of everything left after you've made yourself comfortable will bring even more your way - remember? Not paying the least you can get away with for services rendered...

Many companies the conservatives feel sorry for here and "protect" from higher wages not only pau a good deal more abroad for the same jobs, but enjoy higher profit margins there too.

Since when is the US here to protect corporations frpm the workers? They are not suffering but showing RECORD PROFITS though people are more and more finding they don't need Walmarts anymore. The cheap price tags are too costly in other ways.



If people hate this country so much, why don't they go to a Communist country?


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posted November 22, 2013 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy Randall, with posts like that I had to go make a smoothie and take my vitamins to get my head in a better place.

First off, I was summing up the sentiment of the thread, which is a reasonable sentiment given Walmart's employee-treatment track record. No doubt there are Walmart employees that are happy to have a job with them, and I can sympathize with the notion that any job is better than no job.

It's not wrong to help people have a good holiday season, but based on your winky-guy I suspect you understand the irony of your statement. You fully deserved my summation for that reason.

This isn't a time of "Obamanomics". This is a post-financial-crisis time where the typical spending notions of Presidents recovering from recession have been suppressed by the minority party. If you want to blame Obama, ask Republicans to go back and greenlight everything Obama's proposed.

When you say something smart, then it would be appropriate to say, "Wake up, Socialists." When you tack it on to the end of a nonsense statement it lacks any credibility.

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When you run a billion dollar publically traded company, then you can give away all of the corporate profits to the poor and go out of business.

Surely, even Republicans in whatever capacity they have to think...can think of billion dollar companies that don't have the employment-based issues that Walmart has. In ALL cases, this is due to those companies treating their employees better. Who's Walmart's biggest competitor? Target? Does Target make the news for putting people on government welfare? No. They don't. There is no way to spin Walmart out of this predicament.

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That is some self serving bs there.

That's exactly right!

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posted November 22, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe the Socialist drivel that comes out of your mouth at times, AG. If they don't want to work at Walmart, they can quit.

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posted November 22, 2013 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or they can strike and then you can pay for ALL their subsistence level expenses. It isn't socialist to pay a decent wage. Many very successful companies do it.

And in Europe you can bet it is worth Walmart's while to do likewise.

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posted November 22, 2013 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I can't believe the Socialist drivel that comes out of your mouth at times, AG. If they don't want to work at Walmart, they can quit.

Thank you, Lord, for some sense or I am going to make a smoothie and go to bed

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posted November 22, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is no Socialist drivel, Randall.

People, entities, and things (including Walmart) can do lots of stuff.

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posted November 22, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
There is no Socialist drivel, Randall.

People, entities, and things (including Walmart) can do lots of stuff.



That DEFINES Socialist drivel, my Friend.

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posted November 22, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened to working hard and getting a regular paycheck in this country? Democrats have created an entitlement mentality. Those workers who refused to go in to work at Mickey D's and other restaurants should have all been fired and replaced with people who are grateful to have a job.

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posted November 22, 2013 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
What happened to working hard and getting a regular paycheck in this country? Democrats have created an entitlement mentality. Those workers who refused to go in to work at Mickey D's and other restaurants should have all been fired and replaced with people who are grateful to have a job.

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posted November 22, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah!!! Let them go thru your garbage, do you Randall? Or do you prefer to see them underfoot begging? And sorry, but as Ami described herself as never having neededto work, she has no right to judge those who do.

Let them eat cake, eh?

People who have been spared the sight of severe poverty really shouldn't be complaining about "entitlement mentality" . Visit India, why don't you, and tell me how great it is to ignore those less capable or fortunate than yourself.

Let's let the Phillipinos work their way back to prosperity. Kick those "entitlement mentality" Vets and disabled (all of whom paid into disability funds) to the kerb, mon!

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posted November 22, 2013 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Yeah!!! Let them go thru your garbage, do you Randall? Or do you prefer to see them underfoot begging? And sorry, but as Ami described herself as never having neededto work, she has no right to judge those who do.

Let them eat cake, eh?

People who have been spared the sight of severe poverty really shouldn't be complaining about "entitlement mentality" . Visit India, why don't you, and tell me how great it is to ignore those less capable or fortunate than yourself.

Let's let the Phillipinos work their way back to prosperity. Kick those "entitlement mentality" Vets and disabled (all of whom paid into disability funds) to the kerb, mon!


That has nothing to do with the issue. You obfuscate the obvious because all your arguments are poopie.

PS Stealth Quoter-----

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posted November 22, 2013 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami it is an honour to have you disagree with me. You do realize Israel has most of the programs that scare you when Obama suggests them...but more so?

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posted November 22, 2013 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're fundamentally misinterpreting data, Randall.

Democrats haven't created an entitlement mentality. Doing so would be a monumental, multi-generational task. Conservatives, for whatever reason, seem to be taking the financial crisis and it's attendant unemployment as justification for levying charges of an entitlement state. That's inaccurate, though. Most of those unemployed people would go right back to work given the chance. The example of how to get ahead in life is still alive and well in our country. No illusions of "entitlement mentality" equate with the reality of the situation.

If they fired those McDonald employees and replaced them, they'd still have a large contingent of workers that are there solely because they can't find other work. Those employees would soon have the same issues as the displaced workers. Happiness and gratefulness aren't typified by simply having employment. Anyone can have employment. You can test this by getting a job at Walmart if you like.

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posted November 22, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are meant to be transitional jobs.

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posted November 22, 2013 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami it is an honour to have you disagree with me. You do realize Israel has most of the programs that scare you when Obama suggests them...but more so?


Whenever you get desperate, you try to bait me on Israel (you and the other *cough*).

However, I did hear an interesting fact

John Kerry hates Israel and he has Jewish Grandparents.

I thought of you, right away.

At any rate, take care and be well and all that good jazz. Want to hear some more about my garden.

I planted a whole new crop-- collards, lettuce and I am gonna plant kale. It is all good

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posted November 22, 2013 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not baiting, just pointing out hypocrisy. You talk about people hating America but you are the one with an escape hatch ... to a more repressive country than what you are afraid of. Nevermind.

You talk about programming but your kneejerk reaction to anyone criticizing their country - one of the basic rights in the constitution - is to try to shame them by calling them haters

And congratulations on recognizing that some people with Jewish background think Israel is the wrong answer to Jewish relations with the world. Perhaps one day you will even understand that people often criticize out of cobstructive motives, not hateful ones.

I have tried talking straight with you but I an not interested in playing your bait&switch game again. Enjoy your garden.

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posted November 23, 2013 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You talk about people hating America but you are the one with an escape hatch ... to a more repressive country than what you are afraid of.

Good try, Cat. You just make yourself look stupid

PS To the Stealth Quoter--another one for your dossier

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posted November 23, 2013 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cata

I got my own business and I had to develop maturity when dealing with jerks. That is why I am so mature, now

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posted November 23, 2013 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations but what does your business have to do with your comments here? Do you bring your pent up frustration here after being nice to your visitors even when they are nasty? Do you think you're the only person here with a business? What is your point?

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posted November 23, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, who decided those are "meant to be transitionsl"? There must always be low-paid jobs, why should that excuse poor treatment?

The fact is the SAME COMPANIES do as well or better where they have to pay higher wages.

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posted November 23, 2013 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What poor treatment?

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posted November 23, 2013 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Slave wages are poor treatment. Have you ever worked minimum wage? For some it is a step, for others it's because they can't get anything else for whatever reason. As I said Walmart and McD's both pay more in Europe, and their profits are higher there, so what exactly is the problem?

Why shouldn't workers get holiday bonuses like higher ups? It's been proven by Costco, for example, that well fed workers benefit the company in so many ways, especially growing the business. But then the CEO doesn't take tens of millions in bonuses either.

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posted November 24, 2013 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those transitional jobs are often supplemental income jobs.

Ever looked at the average age of the McD's worker Randall? It is a lot older than you know.

The average age is 29.5. I wouldn't call fast food a transitional job at all. The days of the pimply faced high school kid handing you the Big Mac are long gone.

Many people in my area hold two and three jobs. Many people I work with are part time workers, holding down another job full time.

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posted November 24, 2013 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said it is "intended" to be a transitional job. No one makes them work there. They can work at Costco or some other alternative.

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posted November 24, 2013 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who decides the category of "intention" for these jobs?

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