posted November 26, 2013 08:59 AM            

But what other kind of health care could you expect from the Marxist Socialist Progressive O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades in Congress?

So just stop lying about it Socialists. Be proud that you've lied your Socialist health care debacle into law....and, buckle up for the deluge in 2014 and 2016 by which time up to 100,000,000 more Americans will have lost the insurance policies they liked and the doctors they liked.

The pheasants are getting ready to rain on your parade.

White House Memo
Don’t Dare Call the Health Law ‘Redistribution’
JOHN HARWOOD
November 23, 2013

WASHINGTON — Rebecca M. Blank was a top candidate in 2011 to lead President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, but then the White House turned up something politically dangerous.

“A commitment to economic justice necessarily implies a commitment to the redistribution of economic resources, so that the poor and the dispossessed are more fully included in the economic system,” Ms. Blank, a noted poverty researcher, wrote in 1992. With advisers wary of airing those views in a nomination fight, Mr. Obama passed over Ms. Blank, then a top Commerce Department official and now the chancellor of the University of Wisconsin. Instead he chose Alan Krueger, a Princeton economist.

“Redistribution is a loaded word that conjures up all sorts of unfairness in people’s minds,” said William M. Daley, who was Mr. Obama’s chief of staff at the time. Republicans wield it “as a hammer” against Democrats, he said, adding, “It’s a word that, in the political world, you just don’t use.”

posted November 26, 2013 09:09 AM            

This is what we have been trying to tell the usual suspects, Jwhop!

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posted November 26, 2013 10:54 PM            

I have no problem with the definition of Socialism. I have major disagreements with leftist definitions of Socialism.

O'BomberCare was hatched...not by Republicans but by far left loons who couldn't find their own as$es with both hands and passed by moron leftists who never read the bill.

WE HAVE TO PASS O'BOMBERCARE TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN IT.
Nancy Pee-Lousy

posted November 27, 2013 08:43 AM            

LOVE that name. You do a Gemini proud, Jwhop

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posted November 27, 2013 10:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Well, despite your denial, this plan is basically National Romneycare, hatched by the Heritage grouo, who are funded by the Waltons and Kochs, not well-known for their Socialist tendencies last I looked.

Romney hailed the mandate as the "elimination of free-riders" who dragged everyone else down. The people of Massachussetts don't consider it "socialized medicine", BEcause It's Not.

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posted November 27, 2013 10:29 AM            

Who cares what the loony-tunes in the state of Taxxachussetts think about anything?

Not me.

The basic tenet of Socialism is to take wealth from those who have some and redistribute that wealth to those who have less.

This is exactly what O'BomberCare does on a grand scale. Young and healthy Americans are being charged an arm and leg...overcharged to pay for older less healthy Americans who are likely to cost insurance companies more money as insured.

posted November 27, 2013 01:56 PM            

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I have major disagreements with leftist definitions of Socialism.

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There is no "leftist" definition of Socialism. Even if there were, you would want to go with that one as you accuse them of being Socialists anyway. If the people are [supposedly] something, they should know what the definition of that something is.

"Obamacare" was conceived by Republicans.

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Who cares what the loony-tunes in the state of Taxxachussetts think about anything?

Not me.

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Who cares what the looney-tunes of the state of Florida thing about anything? Not us.

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The basic tenet of Socialism is to take wealth from those who have some and redistribute that wealth to those who have less.

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Oddly, that "basic tenet" hasn't found its way into ANY definition of Socialism. You could achieve one definition of Socialism if your premise were to be all-inclusive; if all the money were taken and redistributed "according to need." That's not the primary tenet, though.

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Young and healthy Americans are being charged an arm and leg...overcharged to pay for older less healthy Americans who are likely to cost insurance companies more money as insured.

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posted November 27, 2013 11:02 PM            

Socialism is ALL about wealth redistribution.

Excuse me moronic Socialists who don't even know the premises of Socialist doctrine. And, you think you're educated? Don't make me laugh.

"FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY. TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED.

posted November 28, 2013 08:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Ami's snore says it all. If it means going thru life with blindfold, earplugs and staying indoors alone, some people refuse to hear anything but their Gods Of Paranoia.

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posted November 29, 2013 02:21 PM            

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zero responsibility.

Throughout your time here it has become ~as per~ usual, to never recognize your own style.

• Everyone else is the hater [not you]
  
• Everyone else are blind sheeple [not you]
  
• Everyone else are bullies [not you]
  

One of these days you will see the mirror. One of these days that mirror will reflect, and you will truly see your on-line persona.

I find it unfortunate that the far right strangle hold on GU has reduced interaction to but a few Knowflakes.
The dearth of posting, is a direct result of people feeling they will not be heard, [and that] they will not be respected as humans either.

posted November 29, 2013 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:
^^_^^

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[b] zero responsibility.

Throughout your time here it has become ~as per~ usual, to never recognize your own style.

• Everyone else is the hater [not you]
  
• Everyone else are blind sheeple [not you]
  
• Everyone else are bullies [not you]
  

One of these days you will see the mirror. One of these days that mirror will reflect, and you will truly see your on-line persona.

I find it unfortunate that the far right strangle hold on GU has reduced interaction to but a few Knowflakes.
The dearth of posting, is a direct result of people feeling they will not be heard, [and that] they will not be respected as humans either.

Tis a shame.
I find it a shame also, that those posting with the voice of the far right want what is least practical for the U.S.[/B]

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posted November 29, 2013 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
There's no one on this forum on the [b]far right.

It's just that you usual suspects are so far left you can't see the middle from the far distance left you are.[/B]

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Ha ha

Well said, Sir

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posted November 29, 2013 10:56 PM            

However, for purposes of discussion, what do you consider to be far right policy and discussion points?

Do you consider adherence to the US Constitution to be far right?

Go you consider advocating for balanced budgets, low taxation and lower government spending to be far right policy?

Do you consider getting and keeping government out of individuals decision making to be far right policy?

Do you consider ripping government/presidents for spending taxpayer money to enrich political supporters...for example, Solyndra and other so called green energy companies, labor unions and organizations like Planned Parenthood and ACORN to be far right policy?

Do you consider ripping O'Bomber for Fast and Furious...a scheme to violate US and International law by running guns across the Mexican border to drug cartels to be far right policy.

posted December 05, 2013 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"There's lots more but let's start you with these and see how you do."

Well, perhaps you do well by exercising your right to remaim silent Catalina/katatonic.

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posted December 05, 2013 11:02 PM            

I don't actually like big gov much. But the right has grown government while letting the wolves watch the henhouse. Most of the.things you complain about, your wonderful right has done, just more sneakily.

The insurance biz has been given a yard (more customers) and decidrd to take the Whole nine by capitaluzing on people's confusion over the law to raise premiums unnecessarily, instead of making it easy for people to join they have made a mess.

posted December 05, 2013 11:09 PM            

The insurance biz has been given a yard (more customers) and decidrd to take the Whole nine by capitaluzing on people's confusion over the law to raise premiums unnecessarily, instead of making it easy for people to join they have made a mess.

As far as I'm concerned redistribution by sucking up people's pensions etc is still redistribution and you guys hsve bought a false premise hook line & stinker"

Supposed to be an answer to this:?

"O'Bomber IS a Socialist of the Marxist variety.
However, for purposes of discussion, what do you consider to be far right policy and discussion points?

Do you consider adherence to the US Constitution to be far right?

Go you consider advocating for balanced budgets, low taxation and lower government spending to be far right policy?

Do you consider getting and keeping government out of individuals decision making to be far right policy?

Do you consider ripping government/presidents for spending taxpayer money to enrich political supporters...for example, Solyndra and other so called green energy companies, labor unions and organizations like Planned Parenthood and ACORN to be far right policy?

Do you consider ripping O'Bomber for Fast and Furious...a scheme to violate US and International law by running guns across the Mexican border to drug cartels to be far right policy.

posted December 05, 2013 11:11 PM            

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posted December 05, 2013 11:24 PM            

"For those on the left who thought that ObamaCare would mean large health insurance companies might get their comeuppance, they might want to look at UnitedHealth. Wall Street analysts expect the giant to see its stock price rise 40 percent over the next two years, thanks to expanding profit margins. The company has also won big contracts to help implement the rollout. Quality Software Services, Inc., a major contractor for Healthcare.gov, is a subsidiary of UnitedHealth. One of President Obama’s most reliable fundraisers in both 2008 and 2012 was Anthony Welters, executive vice president of UnitedHealth. He raised more than $500,000 for the 2012 election, according to opensecrets.org