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Ami Anne
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posted December 04, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tell me something I don't know

http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/11/30/new-washington-examiner-poll-shows-obama-seen-biggest-failure-among-modern-presidents/

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posted December 04, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you read the chart? Or just the onepointed analysis? There were five categories...

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posted December 04, 2013 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This appears to me to be a poll in which O'Bomber was voted the biggest failure among modern American Presidents.

Hell, O'Bomber even beat out George W Bush for worst failure.

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posted December 04, 2013 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what does the piece say about sitting presidents and those now off the hotseat? Or about how many people see them as "great"?

Would you agree with the other entries too? Clinton got some real raves there...

It always amazes me a)that anyone pays attention to polls based on emotions that even the analyst admits will probably change with time and hindsight

b) how the reader blocks out all the info that doesn't fit his agenda.

Yes, right now the "failure" column is highest for Obama. But the "great" and near great columns shame GW, whose retirement has softened people's hatred somewhat but hasn't added any kudos or love, has it?

I will wait until the playing field is less rigged by immefiate circumstances to see how this chart changes. And I suggest that you stop comparing apples and oranges.

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posted December 04, 2013 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat, if a poll said Obama was a male of color, I think you would attempt to refute both those claims.

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posted December 05, 2013 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Cata argues before she knows what she is arguing about.

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posted December 05, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, O'Bomber even beat out poor Jimmy Carter for "biggest failure". Quite a feat, that.

Oh and look, O'Bomber even beat out Richard Nixon for biggest failure.

Did someone mention Kommander Korruption..aka Bill Clinton?

Oh dear, Kommander Korruption finished behind John Kennedy and FDR as great presidents.

Hahahaha But they all...every single president on the list finished behind Ronald Reagan in the "Great" column...including Barack Hussein O'Bomber and Kommander Korruption Bill Clinton.

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posted December 05, 2013 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Reagan was loved by the right and (many on the) left alike. He also once gave a speech on how the people should rebel against the income tax.

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posted December 05, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cata argues before she knows what she is arguing about

more projection from the person who doesn't even read the articles they post? Who can't even discuss the ocean without posting "Impeach Obama"?

The text clearly says, this is not really "fair" because while in Office most presidents ratings are unfavourable compared to after they have completed.

No, Randall, however I doubt there is any need for a poll like that. This one is just spacefiller though, a little more empty noise for $$$ with a totally emotional basis.

You'll note how the "don't knows" climb as the years go by...

When you guys get just a little less holy roller about Obama, I will not have to debunk your hysteria. Simple. It's not me who brings him up twenty times an hour, now, izzitt?

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posted December 05, 2013 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh good, another graph!

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The text clearly says, this is not really "fair" because while in Office most presidents ratings are unfavourable compared to after they have completed.

Obviously. Must have slipped the mind of our resident low information knowflakes. To put in perspective, Obama's lowest approval rating (the last recorded) was 37%. Bush Jr hit an all time low of 25% during his second term. I'm surprised 50% consider Obama average to great. That's more than Bush Jr at 46%. Personally, I trust they'll both rot in a dark corner of hell. Six of one, half dozen of another.

To be fair, this little chart gave me a laugh. President Taft? yeah, ok. How many Americans have even heard of Taft, much less able to comment knowledgably on the man? If the mass media isn't telling them what to think, they 'know' zilch. Storytime break: Trick or treating this Halloween w/ my son, I waited behind a small group of kids and moms at the door of a local former military man. Stereotypical gruff old army colonel. I watched as he obligingly tossed one piece of candy in a kid's bag, then informed the accompanying adult he would throw in an additional handful if they could answer a simple question. Which three US presidents served during the Vietnam war? Each adult ahead of me was stumped. I asked him if anyone had yet scored the extra candy. He shook his head sadly and told me I was the first of the night. "Are you a history major?" he innocently inquired. "No, just a citizen." So, yeah, let's ask the common man on the street to rate our current and former presidents. Cause that tells us so very much, doesn't it?

In the same way they inevitably turn on the movie or pop star of the day, the media is turning on Obama. The people follow suit. And no small wonder. For reasons which I still can not fully fathom, the people genuinely believed this man to be different. Not simply a candidate from the incumbent's opposing party, but a different and somehow intrinsically better man. He isn't. He's no different than Bush Jr, Sr, Clinton et al. He answers to the same powers, he plays the same game, he moves forward the same agenda. The bitter disappointment is palpable.

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posted December 05, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The text clearly says, this is not really "fair" because while in Office most presidents ratings are unfavourable compared to after they have completed.

Obviously. Must have slipped the mind of our resident low information knowflakes"..shura

Excuse me but Kommander Korruption, Jimmy "the teeth" Carter, Lyndon Johnson, John F Kennedy, Harry Truman, Franklin Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson ARE out of office and Ronald Reagan beat them all...hands down as a great President.

Further, I didn't hear any whining from leftists when George W Bush was in the barrel taking his lumps as president.

As a president of the United States, Barack Hussein O'Bomber wouldn't make a small pimple on the ass of George W Bush...let alone Ronald Reagan.

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posted December 05, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"The text clearly says, this is not really "fair" because while in Office most presidents ratings are unfavourable compared to after they have completed.

Obviously. Must have slipped the mind of our resident low information knowflakes"..shura

Excuse me but Kommander Korruption, Jimmy "the teeth" Carter, Lyndon Johnson, John F Kennedy, Harry Truman, Franklin Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson [b]ARE out of office and Ronald Reagan beat them all...hands down as a great President.


And? Someone has to come out on top. Naturally, the recently deceased gets the edge. Let's recall that Reagan's approval rating dipped to 35% in 1983. Ouch! I'm old enough to remember Reagan. I remember the Hollywood actor, bad memory, and oblivious old man jokes. "Just say no!" I remember the AIDS fiasco. Iran contra. S&L crisis. That psycho Watts. The HUD scandal. But never mind all that nasty business. The media has graciously shoved it down an Orwellian memory hole. Now we love Reagan - conservatives, moderates, even some liberals. Ain't nothing left but a shining city on a hill, baby! The media has done the same for JFK. Never let it be forgot that once there was a spot, for one brief shining moment, known as Camelot! (gosh that's sort of s similar meme there. hmm) Now Kennedy I don't recall, though I'm sure you do. Did we love him in 62 as much as we do now? Not quite, eh? Yet he lost to Reagan by a mere 2% margin.

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Further, I didn't hear any whining from leftists when George W Bush was in the barrel taking his lumps as president.

No, all the whinging came from the neocons. Notice a trend?


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posted December 06, 2013 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I notice this is another Rasmussen "likely voters" poll, like the ones in '12 who didn't bother with young people and others they - mistakenly - assumed wouldn't bother to come out.

Distance makes bad memories fade and fond ones grow.

I remember Kennedy, shura, and it certainly was no bed of roses. Many considered him overeducated, sissified, even pinko! Jackie came in for a lot of flack too.

In fact, much like Princess Diana, early violent death cast a fairytale glamour.over JFK that lasts to this day. That said, he did inspire people and start a lot of balls rolling.

LBJ was the real muscle as politicking went..and despite or because of his willingness to deal with the dirtiest, he got things done that JFK might have failed at. Congress was almost as tough on Kennedy as they have been on Obama

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posted December 07, 2013 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"No, all the whinging came from the neocons. Notice a trend?...shura

Well, I'm not a neo/new conservative. I've always been a conservative.

Neocons are former Liberals who were mugged by reality.

Yeah, in almost any poll someone comes out on top and you might have a point about dead presidents getting cut some slack. but..FDR is dead, Harry Truman is dead, JFK is dead, Lyndon Johnson is dead...and Ronnie is also dead but out polled them all...including those who are yet living.

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posted December 07, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"No, all the whinging came from the neocons. Notice a trend?...shura

Well, I'm not a neo/new conservative. I've always been a conservative.

Neocons are former Liberals who were mugged by reality.

Yeah, in almost any poll someone comes out on top and you might have a point about dead presidents getting cut some slack. but..FDR is dead, Harry Truman is dead, JFK is dead, Lyndon Johnson is dead...and Ronnie is also dead but out polled them all...including those who are yet living.


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posted December 07, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what? The most recently deceased, who has been resurrected and Disneyfied by the right propaganda machine...scores a little better than a man few remember from their own lives (kennedy) who served less than three years as President. Big deal.

In fact if you take the "great" and "near great" columnd together, Kennedy scores higher. But seriously, who cares what Rasmussen's "likely voters" answer to something like this?

It's all about emotion and the obvious ignorance of those polled shows with the lower "don't know" numbers.

I'd bet Washington and Jefferson would score well too, due to programming in school and general rosetinting by historical propaganda.

The question is, who pays people to come up with timewasting like this?

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posted December 07, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"No, all the whinging came from the neocons. Notice a trend?...shura

Well, I'm not a neo/new conservative. I've always been a conservative.


I know you're not a neocon, Jwhop. And no genuine conservative would back Bush Jr. No conservative would defend such evils as the Patriot Act or Wolfowitz Doctrine.

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Neocons are former Liberals who were mugged by reality.

Makes sense. Neocons and Leftists are after the same thing.

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Yeah, in almost any poll someone comes out on top and you might have a point about dead presidents getting cut some slack. but..FDR is dead, Harry Truman is dead, JFK is dead, Lyndon Johnson is dead...and Ronnie is also dead but out polled them all...including those who are yet living.

I really don't see a point here. Reagan and JFK came out on top of a popularity poll. ok. A monkey could have called that.

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posted December 07, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Makes sense. Neocons and Leftists are after the same thing."..shura

Fine, let's hang all Neocons and leftists and move America forward.

"I really don't see a point here. Reagan and JFK came out on top of a popularity poll. ok. A monkey could have called that."..shura

Well, I'm reliably informed that 10,000 monkeys typing on 10,000 typewriters would eventually produce the script for King Lear. But, what do monkeys have to do with a great/failed president's poll?

Or, are you suggesting monkeys should now have a vote?

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