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posted January 14, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/politics-and-military/politics/asylum-seekers-demonstrate-outside-knesset-3009

Among others who joined the demonstration to show support for asylum seekers is author David Grossman. "You are ordinary people who are in an unusual situation," Grossman said in his speech at the demonstration. "You are not bad people, but you are stuck in an impossible situation . I hear the voices disrespecting you, and I feel shame. This situation brought out xenophobia in us. You are entitled to a life free of discrimination."

Earlier today, the former Interior Minister Eli Yishai said that "The State of Israel must demonstrate unshakable motivation” in preventing the country from turning into one for “all infiltrators.” Yishai also stated that "I call on the Prime Minister, Minister of Interior and Minister of Public Security to take advantage of the major gathering in the Rose Garden in Jerusalem, as well as any other (such gathering), and put them all on the bus” to the facilities, said Yishai . He stressed that any other solution would only increase the problem and send a message that Israel is removing its identity as a Jewish state.

racism, tribalism ... all the same and it never ends well.

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posted January 14, 2014 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't read anything you post because it will be the usual tripe but just to entertain the title, David represents Israel against the Philistines, who have become modern day Arabs of some variety.

If one traces it, one could find exactly who because the OT provides for all this but I am not sure.

Anyhoo, the main point is not to forget what happened to the monster Goliath at the hand of little David.

David had God on his side. Nuff said

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posted January 14, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets see if Juni moves it to DD

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posted January 14, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On the subject of Davids and Goliaths, what do you think of the latest Monsanto ruling, Ami?

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posted January 14, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to debunk what you don't read. What are you saying, shura, now Arab residents are being put in the israeli equivalent of fema camps?

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posted January 14, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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On the subject of Davids and Goliaths, what do you think of the latest Monsanto ruling, Ami?

Well, I don't know it, Shura but you and I may agree on Monsanto. It is pure evil.

This is just an interesting aside. I grow big Sunflowers. They are so gorgeous. When they die, I can pick a hundred new seeds from the dead one and plant them.

Hence, I can have a whole new crop.

How amazing is God and nature? With Monsanto, crops do not produce seeds which can make new plants.

Monsanto is playing with the sacred and we all will suffer.

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posted January 14, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of them do, some don't. Farmers have been sued for harvesting monsanto plants on their property for...seeds. There are monsanto seeds in the world seedbank in Norway.

Very few things, even monsanto, are momolithically one way or another.

Meanwhile, they came for the Arabs and I said nothing because I am not Arabic ...?

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posted January 14, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are indeed evil, Ami. The supreme court decision was unpleasant but not unexpected. We have a distinctly pro corp court.

We grow sunflowers, too.

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posted January 14, 2014 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Meanwhile, they came for the Arabs and I said nothing because I am not Arabic ...?"


indeed, cat.

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posted January 14, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody is coming for the Arabs who have masses and masses and masses of land.

They are coming for tiny Israel but you won't understand, so it is dumb to even talk about it.
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posted January 14, 2014 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"tiny"? Ami, square footage is irrelevant. Israeli is a military power (thanks to US tax dollars), Palestine is not.

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posted January 14, 2014 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
"tiny"? Ami, square footage is irrelevant. Israeli is a military power (thanks to US tax dollars), Palestine is not.

Thanks to NOBama, he is arming all of Israel's enemies and they surround her.

At any rate, all this is in Bible Prophecy. Praise the Lord. Look up( if you are going up )


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posted January 14, 2014 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"The purpose of inviting the representatives of asylum seekers into the Knesset is simply to meet these people, to hear their stories and understand their problems," said MK Dov Hanin in response to Edelstein’s decision. "The Right is afraid to look at these people and hear what they have to say. The Right is afraid to discover that there are real solutions that can replace criticism and incarceration. The decision to prevent their entrance is just an injury during this critical development. The Speaker is exceeding his powers and is severely underminining our ability in the Knesset to hold dialogue” on the issue

Sound familiar?

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posted January 14, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh Juni, not at all.

Back to racism, Zionism, and the like ...

I notice Palestinian President Abbas' words have been conveniently misconstrued by the usual media outlets.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/176267#.UtX9XJAo5y1

"Will not recognize Israel"

vs

"Will not recognize Israel as a Jewish state"

Such a difference! Certainly easy to understand why Abbas, speaking for the minority Arab citizens of Israel, would be loathe to approve of a "Jewishstate." Of course, the Palestinians recognized Israel in the Oslo accord.

Try this

"Will not recognize The United States of America"

vs

"Will not recognize The United States as a Christian state"

or, with a nod to my friend Ami

"Will not recognize The United States of America as a Muslim state"

Now whether Israel is in fact a Jewish state is a topic the Israelis themselves continue to grapple with, and a question we see manifest in the current asylum seekers protest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state

Wish dooomlord were here to weigh in.


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posted January 17, 2014 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Israel prides itself in being a Liberal, Secular Democracy. This is the main reason the entire developed World supports Israel.
It is not a Jewish State, it has a majority of its citizens as practicing Jews. Arabs have been elected to the Knesset. An Arab Citizen of Israel can theoretically become an elected President of Israel.

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posted January 17, 2014 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Israel prides itself in being a Liberal, Secular Democracy. This is the main reason the entire developed World supports Israel.
It is not a Jewish State, it has a majority of its citizens as practicing Jews. Arabs have been elected to the Knesset. An Arab Citizen of Israel can theoretically become an elected President of Israel.


Thank you, IQ. You are a true gem

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posted January 17, 2014 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read a story of an Arab family that saved a Jewish family in the Holocaust.

It was very lovely and really touched me!

There are wonderful people out there and horrible people.

The heart of each person is what matters, whether it be full of evil or full of light

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posted January 17, 2014 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and we see now why the Palestinians would refuse to acknowledge a "Jewish State" despite Israel's insistance? This is akin to expecting Mandela to acknowledge South Africa as a "White State"

I generally hesitate to cite wiki, but this is doable and the links given worthwile.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state

The term "Jewish state" has been in common usage in the media since the establishment of Israel, and the term was used interchangeably with Israel. The first US official to use the term was then United States Secretary of State Colin L. Powell in a 2001 speech on the Middle East, in which he briefly called on Palestinians to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state" after an Israeli diplomat convinced an aide to slip the phrase into his speech. George W. Bush used the term in his speeches and in a controversial exchange of letters with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2004.[2] Obama has also used the phrase, for instance in a speech in September 2010 to the U.N. General Assembly.[3] The Israeli government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has made Palestinian recognition of Israel as a "Jewish state" a precondition in the peace negotiations,[4] as did the government of his successor Benjamin Netanyahu. However, Palestinians regard a "Jewish state" as a trap, a new demand that did not come up during years of negotiations in the 1990s or in peace treaties reached with Egypt and Jordan. The Palestine Liberation Organization recognized the State of Israel as part of the Oslo Accords in 1993. Palestinians regard acceptance of the demand as giving up the right of return.[5]

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posted January 17, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are NO Palestinians. They are a made up people. They were thugs in Jordan who got kicked out of Jordan for bad behavior. they are thug, kicked out Jordanians. That is a historical fact

The Arab world made a made up people to foment hate against Israel.

Anyone who won't face this historical fact has an agenda because it is a historical fact.

The only agenda I can see is hating Jews.

At least admit you hate Jews. Don't believe a lie about the Palestinians because it is a lie.

The Arab unused land is gigantic. They could take in these people and feel nothing.

Anyway, the haters gonna hate :/

You will answer to God

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posted January 17, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
There are NO Palestinians. They are a made up people. They were thugs in Jordan who got kicked out of Jordan for bad behavior.

The Arab world made a made up people to foment hate against Israel.

Anyone who won't face this historical fact has an agenda because it is a historical fact.

The only agenda I can see is hating Jews.

I say this. At least admit you hate Jews. Don't believe a lie about the Palestinians because it is a lie.

The Arab unused land is gigantic. They could take in these people and feel nothing.

Anyway, the haters gonna hate


apples and oranges. A lack of appreciation for Israels politics is getting all mixed up in ones mind and the dancing ghosts of ones own fears, hate and needs being neglected swirl like starving jinn in a prayer service... .

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posted January 17, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The whole thing is Bible prophecy, anyway. No one can stop it.


Each man will choose a side in this conflict. The world will all come to the trembling point which is Jerusalem.

All nations will turn against Israel but each person will choose a side in this conflict.

This is the final conflict and it comes down to this.

Choose the right one.

I have no patience for the haters any more. They will answer to God and get what is coming to them

I am happy for that.

I should not be but I am!


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posted January 17, 2014 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni

Israel haters are Jew haters. MLK said it as well as many other people.

If someone hates Jews, they should have the bollas to admit it.

That I could respect, in it's own way

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posted January 17, 2014 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what would take real guts? For the Jew haters to say why they hate Jews. The Palestinian thing is a lie. That has been established.

Why do you hate Jews? Do you think they are too smart. too rich, too close knit?

Talk real but don't insult me with this Palestinian lie when you can read history for yourself.

I am Jewish and will answer questions to anyone who hates Jews.

You can ask me anything.

Have some bollas for once without hiding behind how you hate Israel but not Jews.

I respect bollas. I have them

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posted January 17, 2014 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You know what would take real guts? For the Jew haters to say why they hate Jews. The Palestinian thing is a lie. That has been established.

Why do you hate Jews? Do you think they are too smart. too rich, too close knit?

Talk real but don't insult me with this Palestinian lie when you can read history for yourself.

I am Jewish and will answer questions to anyone who hates Jews.

You can ask me anything.

Have some bollas for once without hiding behind how you hate Israel but not Jews.

I respect bollas. I have them


Why readers, is it so very difficult to understand politics is not a bloodline or person?

What would make one believe politics reflects ones DNA. This question has puzzle many in GU for some time.

Before this gets too far gone into a bible lesson or tempers flaring, I`m closing it.


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