posted July 01, 2014 02:12 PM            

I don't understand WHY the GOVERNMENT is involved in what kind of PERKS a company gives it's employees.

What are we going to scrutinize next?
Christmas bonuses?
You don't hear people complaining about receiving a PERK due to the giving nature of a RELIGIOUS holiday.

If you don't like the PERKS a business gives, don't work there.

posted July 01, 2014 02:51 PM            

But if a woman appreciates the flowers her lover gives her does that mean she is morally obligated to accept him beating her as well?

posted July 01, 2014 03:45 PM            

Overall the courts seem to do okay and if they stumble at times I can overlook it, especially as I know Sag Pluto is bound for the top. I can be patient.

I especially don't like that sometimes religious beliefs exempt one from even felony assault and wrongful death, including felony child abuse to go on because they're protected by "religious exemption" laws that shield them from the eyes of investigators save under very strict exceptions (which ironically means that parents can pay to have people commit felony child abuse that they'd risk prison for if they did it themselves, and the facilities have even been known to get away with killing kids though they sometimes have to move their operations to the Caribbean). I don't mean to compare such horrific abuses to the victory Hobby Lobby won in court, but rather explain why it leaves a bad taste in my mouth and wonder how much further this might go later on (though I don't think this will turn into a slippery slope, I can't ignore the possibility).

posted July 01, 2014 03:47 PM            

Just because a company won't give you birth control does that mean you automatically have to convert to their faith?
No!
You seek employment elsewhere.

posted July 01, 2014 03:55 PM            

And, yes, if you don't like Hobby Lobby's policies, by all means, find another employer. The guy down the street doesn't give breaks on an 8 hour shift, and two blocks over he won't hire you if you're Muslim, and cross town he's got half a dozen OSHA violations. Take your pick, it's a free country, after all, and CLEARLY an employee driven market.

posted July 02, 2014 08:16 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Someone illustrating the possible slippery slope:

Again, I don't think it will be allowed to go that far (but someone somewhere will try).

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posted July 02, 2014 10:29 AM            

Yeah, I get the slippery slope argument but there is a lot of hysterical misinformation going around the internet.

posted July 02, 2014 09:41 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by shura:
For PixieJane (and all others with an intact sense of humor)
http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/supreme-court-rules-jcpen ney-allowed-to-sacrifice-employees-to-appease-cthulhu.html

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*Does gibbering dance of joy*

posted July 03, 2014 02:03 PM            

There is going to be a documentary on Monday’s Supreme Court decision that gave some corporations the right to deny birth control to women based on religious objections. The 'intelligent and respectable' Rick Santorium is behind it.

A trailer for the movie points to the Hobby Lobby case that the Supreme Court decided on Monday as proof that the government is trying to destroy religious freedom. Filmmakers compare the situation to Nazi Germany, when Christians in Germany did not “wake up.”

Da fuq did I read? Are you really comparing birth control to Nazi Germany?

Nazi Germany, definitely a place where the rights of gays, women and minorities were put above Christians!

Its like Republicans can't decide if Obama is Hitler or Stalin. At least be consistent with your delusions. Which is it: Fascism or Communism???? I'm convinced they have no idea what these really mean.

This is also why I normally stay out of this forum, because it is way too biased in here.

posted July 04, 2014 08:01 PM            

According to this interview Justice Scalia doesn't believe women are "persons" entitled to equal protection. In other words at least one of the S.C. did indeed vote from the viewpoint that women do not have such right to equal protection.

posted July 04, 2014 09:48 PM            

I actually thought a lot of the outcry was overblown and hysterical but despite the valiant defense of HobbyLobby's minor transgression, it does seem that now professing religious objections dont have to be sincere at all...just a few days in