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jwhop
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posted September 09, 2014 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, while O'Bomber and his Socialist buds in congress are crowing about the unemployment rate, rational people know it's gone down because millions and millions of Americans got so discouraged about finding a job in the O'Bomber economy they quit looking.

When they quit looking, they get dropped from the rolls of the "unemployed" and aren't counted as "unemployed". That makes the "unemployment rate" go down.

Now, the ideal for O'Bomber and his Socialist comrades in congress would be for all the unemployed to quit looking for jobs in the O'Bomber economy. Then, the official "unemployment rate" would be 0.0000 as in Zero.

The Insiders: The Obama economy is not working for the Democrats
By Ed Rogers
September 3, 2014

People vote with their pocketbooks. That has pretty much always been true, and it will be true in November 2014. With that in mind, the president has begun to try and convince voters that the Obama economy is working for them.

At Milwaukee Laborfest in Wisconsin this past weekend, President Obama spoke about how he and the Democrats believe the American economy has strengthened over the last six years. The president told the crowd that “by almost every measure, the American economy and American workers are better off than when I took office.” That just isn’t true. And a trove of new analysis proves my point.

A definition of being off-message is when a politician says things to people that differs from what they observe for themselves. Happy talk about the economy doesn’t fool anybody; it makes them angry. According to a George Washington University Battleground poll released today, 54 percent of voters disapprove of the job President Obama is doing on the economy. Even more telling, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll from August showed that 49 percent of Americans still think we are in a recession. In that same poll, 76 percent said that they do not feel confident “that life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us.”

The truth is, in many ways Americans are worse off today than they were before the recession. Sentier Research released a report showing that median household income is down 4.8 percent from December 2007, when the recession began, and down 3.1 percent from the end of the recession in June 2009. The last time I checked, having less money is not an indication that you are better off.

And, as The Post reported recently, some stunning data from the Pew Charitable Trust shows that from 2007 to 2014, not one state has reported employment gains. Bear with me. This means there is not one state where the percentage of people working today is higher than the percentage of people who were working in that state before the recession. Plus, overall, only 76.2 percent of people aged 25 to 54 are working today, compared with 79.9 percent of that age group who were working in 2007.

The labor force participation rate is still incredibly low, at only 62.9 percent. Democrats can crow about how the unemployment rate has now decreased to 6.2 percent, but the primary reason for that drop is not because people have gone into comfortable retirement; it’s because they can’t find a job. So when the president says that “more folks are working,” people are left shaking their heads, wondering if the president doesn’t know, doesn’t care or thinks it is effective to be deceitful.

There are just too many bothersome facts about the lack of growth and jobs in today’s economy. This administration is the most anti-business administration since World War II, and people who want to work notice.

I don’t ever expect the president to stand in front of a crowd and say “woe is me, I’m a failure,” but when he goes out there and pats himself on the back, crowing about the success of the Obama economy, he only makes his political situation worse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/09/03/the-insiders-the-obama-economy-is-not-working-for-the-democrats/

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posted September 10, 2014 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2014/09/05/obama-outperforms-reagan-on-jobs-growth-and-investing/

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jwhop
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posted September 10, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose that if you haven't gotten it yet, you never will.

BTW, your so called source authority...
Adam Hartung is described as a "Flaming Liberal". In other words, a leftist.

I don't know why leftists seem incapable of understanding that when people stop looking for work, they get dropped from the rolls of the "unemployed". Millions of Americans have stopped looking for work in the O'Bomber economy. That 1 action alone MAKES THE U-3 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GO DOWN..

We've covered this subject before but leftists continue to tout the O'Bomber economy as the best thing since sliced bread.

Stop the nonsense. The REAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN AMERICA IS ALMOST 14% AFTER ALMOST 6 YEARS OF O'BOMBER INFESTING THE WHITE HOUSE. Use the U-6 unemployment number. That's the real measure of American unemployment and under-employment.

I know you want to defend your little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber. But trying to use leftists who use fatally flawed employment numbers isn't going to convince anyone.

Further, that U-3 unemployment number has been revised several times since 1980 when Ronald Reagan was elected and jump started the economy out of the Carter depression. So, it's intellectually dishonest to attempt a direct comparison of the U-3 unemployment numbers under Reagan and O'Bomber.

There are fewer Americans working in America today than there were when O'Bomber began infesting the White House in January 2009. Further, American incomes have fallen about $4,500 per family since the White House infestation by the Marxist Messiah.

Marxists Socialist Progressives are very predictable. They always destroy the economy of every nation where they come to power. Which is exactly what I predicted O'Bomber would do when he was only "candidate O'Bomber....and he has met my expectations.

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posted September 10, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The piece mentions LABOR PARTICIPATION also jwhop. The source's politics are unknown to me but Forbes is not known for pushing its FLAMING LIBERAL agenda.

Anyway, whatever you think of Hartung, his credentials are good enough for Forbes and I think it's healthy to see various points of view, don't you?

Isn't that what Fox calls Fair and Balanced? you know, a liberal here and there for the conservative gang to laugh at on air?

Or are you trying to shut down all opinions but your own?

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posted September 10, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hartung IS NOT a staff writer at Forbes. He's a "contributor" and nothing more.

Don't confuse yourself that Forbes agrees with what Hartung has to say. Like Fox News, Forbes gives both sides of issues.

Yeah, the labor participation rate is in the toilet in the O'Bomber economy.

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posted September 10, 2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depending on whom you listen to.

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posted September 13, 2014 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Depending on whom you listen to."

What is true...depending on whom you listen to...as it relates to this thread?

Are you attempting to assert Hartung IS a staff writer at Forbes?

Are you attempting to assert Forbes Magazine AGREES with Hartung?

Are you attempting to assert the labor participation rate IS NOT in the toilet in the O'Bomber economy?

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posted September 13, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose that if you haven't gotten it yet, you never will.

You think?

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posted September 13, 2014 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean what I said. The state of the economy and labor participation is seen differently by different people. You pick sources that harp on its poor performance but others see differently. Just like that Pelosi video where the writeup makes it sound like she was serious when she said a Republican Senate would end "civilisation as we know it"...lmao.

You go ahead and post your slant...and I will post an alternate. Fair and balanced, right?

Boo! Just love people who don't have jobs moaning about the lack of jobs they wouldn't take if they were offered. The economy is better thsn it has been for a long time. It is changing and so is the kind of job available...you've heard of technology?

Some jobs will never come back. When trains and cars came in a lot of horse oriented people had to give up on their jobs...and evolve.

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posted September 13, 2014 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No reputable, credible economist believes the economy has improved greatly. Some loony leftist moron economists...Socialists say they do but I said..."Reputable and Credible".

Two rational, knowledgeable people cannot look at the same economic indicators and come to diametric opposite opinions.

The numbers don't lie. On the other hand, O'Bomber and his loony leftist comrades are habitual liars.

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posted September 13, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
No reputable, credible economist believes the economy has improved greatly. Some loony leftist moron economists...Socialists say they do but I said..."Reputable and Credible".

Two rational, knowledgeable people cannot look at the same economic indicators and come to diametric opposite opinions.

The numbers don't lie. On the other hand, O'Bomber and his loony leftist comrades are habitual liars.



WHY DOES THIS EVEN HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED

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posted September 13, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most people dont look at the numbers but the interp. As with most things it's enough to see what you want to see and refuse to look at any contradictory numbers.

Using statistics to slant info is as old as the Roman hills.

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posted September 13, 2014 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Because most people dont look at the numbers but the interp. As with most things it's enough to see what you want to see and refuse to look at any contradictory numbers

Are you talking to yourself

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posted September 14, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Most people don't look at the numbers but the interp"

Right, low information leftists can't reason...or deal with actual data. They need someone to tell them what it all means. Unfortunately, they choose delusional leftists to get their interpretation of actual data. Leftists like the delusional Think Progress, Move-On, Huffington, demoscat underground or other delusional groups who live in a fairy land world that doesn't really exist in the real world.

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posted September 14, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More opinion not fact. I'm just presenting an alternate are you afraid someone might question your version?

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posted September 14, 2014 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Most people don't look at the numbers but the interp"

Right, low information leftists can't reason...or deal with actual data. They need someone to tell them what it all means. Unfortunately, they choose delusional leftists to get their interpretation of actual data. Leftists like the delusional Think Progress, Move-On, Huffington, demoscat underground or other delusional groups who live in a fairy land world that doesn't really exist in the real world.



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posted September 14, 2014 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ADG-q8AHo

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posted September 14, 2014 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just my opinion?

Look, when opinion is borne out in the real world by facts, then, it's not opinion any longer. Nor is it subject to leftist spin.

Still, there are those who still think O'Bomber is a great president, when in reality, he's the worst president in US history and a failure in every metric of presidential governance.

Those numbers are tied his actions as prez and he's living in the same delusional fairy-land world as his low information...no information supporters.

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posted September 14, 2014 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Just my opinion?

Look, when opinion is borne out in the real world by facts, then, it's not opinion any longer. Nor is it subject to leftist spin.

Still, there are those who still think O'Bomber is a great president, when in reality, he's the worst president in US history and a failure in every metric of presidential governance.

Those numbers are tied his actions as prez and he's living in the same delusional fairy-land world as his low information...no information supporters.


When I used to hear about the dumbing down of America, I thought it was hype and spin.

IT IS NOT. IT IS REAL.

These people are morons and a free society cannot co-exist with them.

They are ignorant but arrogant about it

It is just horrifying


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posted September 15, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"When I used to hear about the dumbing down of America, I thought it was hype and spin."

It's been going on for a long time now. The loony-tunes notion that every idea and every viewpoint deserves equal consideration. Not only that, but the equally loony-tunes idea that every viewpoint is "valid"...unless those ideas and viewpoints contradict leftist orthodoxy.

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posted September 15, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
"When I used to hear about the dumbing down of America, I thought it was hype and spin."

It's been going on for a long time now. The loony-tunes notion that every idea and every viewpoint deserves equal consideration. Not only that, but the equally loony-tunes idea that every viewpoint is "valid"...unless those ideas and viewpoints contradict leftist orthodoxy.



It is insidious like black mold

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posted September 15, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop

Did you hear Rush's brother on his show today? It uplifted me so much.


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posted September 16, 2014 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It is insidious like black mold"

Good comparison!

No, I missed David but I missed Rush too.

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posted September 16, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"It is insidious like black mold"

Good comparison!

No, I missed David but I missed Rush too.


Thank you about the black mold, Jwhop

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posted September 16, 2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop

It is funny with David. He seemed so serious and unlike Rush in not being humorous like he was the serious older brother.

However, he was so full of life and enthusiasm in the interview.

You just have to find people's passions and they come alive

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