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posted December 12, 2014 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A group of independent scientists, economists, and meteorologists has issued a pointed response to the scientific foundation of the Obama administration's claims that humans are drastically changing the climate by burning fossil fuels.

With expertise in multiple disciplines, including climate research, weather modeling, physics, geology, statistical analysis, engineering, and economics, the 15 signers make the case that the foundation of the White House National Climate Assessment (NCA) is a "masterpiece of marketing" that crumbles like a "house of cards" under the weight of real-world evidence.

"They promote their 'Climate Models' as a reliable way to predict the future climate. But these models dramatically fail basic verification tests. Nowhere do they admit to these well-known failures. Instead, we are led to believe that their climate models are close to perfection," assert the scientists.

The 829-page NCA report was released on May 6 and was characterized by administration officials as "the most comprehensive, authoritative, transparent scientific report on U.S. climate change impacts ever generated."

The administration seized on the NCA findings as justification for its push to further regulate the fossil-fuel industry and to bolster alternative green-energy sources.

The scientists' rebuttal, however, strongly challenges the theory of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW), which it says is "based on a string of inferences that begins with the assumptions" that human burning of fossil fuels is driving up atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide and "is so grossly flawed it should play no role in U.S. Energy Policy Analyses and CO2 regulatory processes."

The scientists do not have any affiliation with any particular organization and have worked together pro bono for several years.

Among the signatories are: Dr. George Wolff, who formerly chaired the Environmental Protection Agency's Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee; Joseph S. D'Aleo, a fellow with the American Meteorological Society; Dr. Neil Laverne Frank, former director of the National Hurricane Center in Florida; and William M. "Bill" Gray, emeritus professor of atmospheric science at Colorado State University.

The authors criticize the NCA report for a lack of objectivity and its failure to include input from scientists who may question whether climate change is irrefutable and that a robust regulatory response is required.

"Science derives its objectivity from robust logic and honest evidence repeatedly tested by all knowledgeable scientists, not just those paid to support the administration's version of "Global Warming,' 'Climate Change,' 'Climate Disruption,' or whatever their marketing specialists call it today," they said.

The NCA and the White House assert that urgent action is needed because increasing average temperatures in the United States are responsible for a greater frequency of extreme weather events.

According to the NCA, average temperatures have increased between 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit and 1.9 degrees Fahrenheit since 1895 and forecasting models show a potential increase of an additional 4 degrees Fahrenheit if countermeasures are not adopted, including cap-and-trade, greater subsidization of green energy, and reduced fossil fuel production.

According to the NCA, "human influences are the primary driver of recent climate change is based on multiple lines of independent evidence."

The scientists describe that contention as "grossly flawed" and take issue with the EPA's claim — used to justify greenhouse gas regulation — that there is "90-99 percent certainty that observed warming in the latter half of the twentieth century resulted from human activity."

That claim "is totally at odds with multiple robust, consistent, independently-derived empirical datasets, all showing no statistically significant positive (or negative) trend in temperature," they wrote. "Therefore, EPA's theory … must be rejected."

The group of scientists made similar points in a Supreme Court amicus involving EPA regulation of greenhouse gas emissions from new motor vehicles.

In the brief the scientists assert EPA's entire hypothesis that CO2 emissions endanger human health and safety has been falsified by real-world evidence.

"As the most important example, EPA asserts as its central 'line of evidence' for CO2 'endangerment' that CO2 will warm the surface temperature of the earth through a mechanism by which rising CO2 concentrations in the troposphere in the tropics block heat transfer into outer space."

They said that if EPA's hypothesis were accurate there would necessarily be an observable "hot spot" in the tropical upper troposphere. But that has not been proven to exist, therefore, they write "the basis that EPA has for this rulemaking is no basis," they wrote.

According to their rebuttal report, "over the last 130 years the decade of the 1930s still has the most U.S. state high temperatures records."

Their assertion that climate disruptions are not increasing, ironically, is echoed in the most recent report issued by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which the White House often cites to support its own argument.

Globally, according to the IPCC in its 2012 special report on extreme events, "since the 1950s some regions of the world have experienced a trend to more intense and longer droughts, in particular in southern Europe and West Africa, but in some regions droughts have become less frequent, less intense, or shorter, for example, in central North America and northwestern Australia."

Furthermore, the IPCC in 2013 concluded that "current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century" and "no robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin."

The scientists also dispute the administration's claims that proposed regulation of carbon dioxide can be achieved in a cost-effective manner that will create jobs and produce economic benefit. Rather, they argue, those policies will restrict economic growth causing harm to the poor.

"Unilateral CO2 emission control by the United States promises to damage the economy of the United States without any benefits. In fact, increasing CO2 in the atmosphere facilitates achieving the goal of raising the poor out of poverty through increasing food production," the scientists wrote in their amicus brief.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/scientists-rebut-global-warming/2014/05/18/id/571987/

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posted December 15, 2014 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, the yipping and yapping of the man made global warming set warn us humans cause global warming which will both turn earth into a cinder AND drown us with rising sea levels. Death by fire and water. Yet, the only results of earth's warming...since the last Ice Age is....a sharp advance of human civilization due to longer crop growing seasons, more food production and much longer life spans for humans. The evidence of these human beneficial changes are evident, obvious and there to see for any human with 2 brain cells to rub together.

The only conclusion rational people could draw is that the global warming yippers and yappers are...against more food to feed a hungry earth...against longer life spans and against human civilization. They're anti-human and anti-civilization.

Perhaps we should quarantine them all on some rocky, inhospitable island or archipelago where they can spend 12-15 hours a day trying to keep themselves warm and fed. Tierra Del Fuego sounds ideal for these idiots.

What we should never do is pay any attention to their yipping and yapping or follow these idiots off the cliff.

December 15, 2014
Rising Seas Are Nothing New
By Viv Forbes

The most careful analysis of world sea levels suggests they are rising at between zero and 2mm per year.

Sea levels are never still, but with global temperatures flat and snow cover and polar ice steady, sea levels are probably as stable today as they ever get.

However, we still have climatists creating computer models that predict dangerously rising seas to justify their goal to ban coastal development and to revive their failing war on carbon.

Alarmists should study Earth history.

At the depth of our most recent ice age, just 16,000 years ago, a thick sheet of ice covered much of North America and Northern Europe. So much water was locked up in ice that humans could walk on dry land from London to Paris, from Siberia to Alaska, and from New Guinea to Australia.

There was no Great Barrier Reef, as Queensland’s continental shelf was part of the coastal plain, and rivers like the Burdekin met the ocean about 160 km east of its current mouth.

Then, about 13,000 years ago, with no help from man-made engines burning hydrocarbons, the Earth began warming. This was probably caused by natural cycles affecting our sun and the solar system, aided by volcanic heat along Earth’s Rings of Fire under the oceans.

The great ice sheets melted, sea levels rapidly rose some 130m, and coastal settlements and ancient port cities were drowned. Without zoning laws to guide them, our smart ancestors moved ahead of the rising waters and adapted happily to the warmer climate with less snow, more rain, more carbon dioxide plant food, and more ice-free land.

This warming phase peaked in the Medieval Warm Era about 1,000 years ago, when sea levels also peaked. They fell during the Little Ice Age, rose slightly during the Modern Warm Era, and are relatively stable now.

Rising seas are never a lethal threat to life on Earth. The danger sign is falling sea levels caused by return of the great ice sheets. This would quickly put high-latitude farming into the deep freezer, thus creating widespread starvation. Trying to grow crops on emerging salty mudflats in an icy climate will give future farmers a real climate concern.

And despite World Heritage listings, when the next ice age comes, the skeletons of the stranded Great Barrier Reef will become bleached limestone deposits on the coastal plain. The indestructible coral populations will abandon their marooned homes and build new reefs farther out under the retreating seas.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/rising_seas_are_nothing_new.html

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posted December 15, 2014 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately the Medieval warm period coincided with. . The Dark Ages. While the mini ice age included the renaissance, Elizabethan England, the discovery of the Americas. ..hmmm...the Enlightenment, the Constitution. .Galileo...

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posted January 15, 2015 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0KN25520150114?irpc=932

Oops! Scientists make mistakes too...on both sides

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posted January 15, 2015 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://dcraig.blogs.redding.com/2015/01/deniers-are-not-skeptics-skeptics-are-not-deniers-1/

Chock full of links including:

Thus, as a scientist who has published in the peer-reviewed climate science literature, I find it really upsetting and disturbing to hear the smear campaign by right-wing climate deniers that scientists are “in a big conspiracy”, that we are creating a “hoax” to make big money from government grants. Not only is this bizarrely untrue, but it angers me that people call me and my colleagues liars and frauds, yet they don’t know the first thing about how science works, or what scientists really do and what motivates them. http://www.skepticblog.org/2014/08/27/the-pot-calling-the-kettle-black/#more-26177

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posted January 16, 2015 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http:/ /www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/01/16/scientists-react-to-warmest-year-2014-underscores-undeniable-fact-of-human-caused-climate-change/

A shout out for you Eastern seaboarders in this one

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posted January 17, 2015 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2014...hottest year in history!!!!! More hot air from the lower orifices of the leftist set. Real scientists aren't buying a word of it.

Is 2014 The Hottest Year Ever? Satellites Say No
01/16/2015

Climate Change: The news is ablaze with a report that 2014 was the "hottest year." But there's no reason to be excited. The story the global warming alarmists are trying to tell isn't the only one out there.

'For the third time in a decade," shouted the AP, "the globe sizzled to the hottest year on record, federal scientists announced Friday."

The Washington Post reported that "the year 2014 was the hottest ever measured, based on records going back to the year 1880." Bloomberg News challenged readers to "deny this" and directed them to "animation below" that documents "2014: The Hottest Year."

Hysteria also reigned at the BBC in Britain, the New Era in Africa, Australia's Sydney Morning Herald and all points in between.

In one sense, the breathless stories are correct: 2014 was the hottest year on record — by no more than four-hundredths of a degree. But that's based on surface thermometer records, which are not reliable.

Better measurement is done by satellites, and they indicate 2014 was the third-warmest in the 36 years that satellites have been used to document temperatures.

John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, says the satellite data show that temperature changes since 2001 are "statistically insignificant."

As expected, though, some scientists — a few of whom are considered "distinguished" — take the hottest-ever report as confirmation that man is dangerously warming his planet due to fossil-fuel use.

But a few have kept their heads. Roger Pielke, professor of atmospheric science at Colorado State University, told the Post that "there remain significant uncertainties in the accuracy of the land portion of the surface temperature data, where we have found a significant warm bias."

Judith Curry, professor at Georgia Tech's school of earth and atmospheric sciences, said that "with 2014 essentially tied with 2005 and 2010 for hottest year," the implication is "that there has been essentially no trend in warming over the past decade."

"This 'almost' record year does not help the growing discrepancy between the climate model projections and the surface temperature observations," she added.

There's simply nothing to see here. But that's the way it's always been with the global-warming swindle.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/011615-735156-2014-not-the-hottest-year-on-record.htm

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posted January 18, 2015 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ya, because, you know, climate problems are just another Conspiracy of the Left!

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posted January 18, 2015 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always knew you believed the clap-trap of man made global warming...even though you denied it...just like you deny being a Socialist.

If you encourage people to talk enough...and I do, it's not long before their true persona is revealed.

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posted January 18, 2015 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? Because I don't believe in your Conspiracy Theory you think I must agree with the other"side"? How surprising! Not..

Newsflash, you encourage most people to look for the nearest exit, not to talk! and you exhibit no inkling of understanding my position tho I've stated it loud and clear often enough. I actually think its a little more complex than left/right or right/wrong for that matter.

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posted January 19, 2015 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you're the only one talking about a "conspiracy" regarding the religion of Man Made Global Warming.

I've always maintained these lying fraudsters are seeking to keep their place at the government feeding trough.

Hmmm, you have me confused with someone else. I encourage debate and never, ever tell anyone to shut up or complain to Randall about their comments...no matter how illogical, irrational or brain dead their comments may be.

Your crystal ball needs an overhaul.

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posted January 21, 2015 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
January 21, 2015
Epic hypocrisy: 1700 private jets fly to Davos to discuss perils of 'climate change'
Thomas Lifson

With the World Economic Forum, the premier gathering of the world’s elite, convening in Davos, Switzerland, private jets are as thick as locusts in the air over Zurich Airport. 1700 of them, according to Twitter feed of Flightradar24:

Hilariously Ironic... “@flightradar24: 1700 private jets expected to Davos in Switzerland to discuss climate change at World Economic Forum

— Jack Taylor (@LordJackTaylor) January 20, 2015
Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit has the best response: “I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who tell me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.”

This epic event surpasses even the moment 11 years ago when Sean Hannity interviewed Robert F. Kennedy live on air, and after hearing how we all must cut back on our carbon emissions, asked the crusading flyboy where he was going next, and if he were taking a private jet. The stammering response and justification of how important it was that he be exempted from the rules he would have others follow will always be with me.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/01/ epic_hypocrisy_1700_private_jets_fly_to_davos_to_discuss_perils_of_climate_change.html

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posted January 22, 2015 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/21/senate-votes-that-climate-change-is-real-parka-sales-in-hell-skyrocket/


Lol well the repubs have just voted their admission that climate change is real. . When a much cherished bill depends on it.

Whose eye is on their bacon now?

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posted January 22, 2015 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was intended as a joke. I guess you didn't get the punchline like the other one Senator. There's no way Obama will sign it, but it's on the horizon and inevitable in two years.

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posted January 22, 2015 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What was intended as a joke, please?

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posted January 22, 2015 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Republicans on Wednesday agreed that climate change is not a hoax. Sort of.

In what The Washington Post characterizes as a "nifty, if insincere, bit of politics," Republicans successfully parsed language in an amendment to the Senate’s Keystone XL pipeline bill that stated climate change "is real and not a hoax."

Democrats had been trying to force Republicans to state, on the record, their positions on human contributions to climate change.

In an act of chicanery, Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe, who authored a book on the subject entitled "The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future," argued in favor of the amendment, stating climate change is not a hoax.

He gave his reasoning in a speech on the Senate floor.

"Climate is changing, and climate has always changed, and always will, there's archaeological evidence of that, there's biblical evidence of that, there's historic evidence of that, it will always change," Inhofe said.

"The hoax is that there are some people that are so arrogant to think that they are so powerful that they can change climate. Man can't change climate."

The hoax, according to Inhofe, was the idea that man was responsible for global warming.

Just before the vote, Inhofe sent a cryptic message on Twitter alluding to something in the works.

Senators - join me in voting YES on Whitehouse's amdmnt saying climate change is a hoax, bc it is. I'll address my vote in floor speech soon
— Jim Inhofe (@jiminhofe) January 21, 2015

Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island had attached the "hoax" language to the Keystone bill.

It was expected to fail, but Republicans successfully altered the wording so that they could vote for the bill while continuing to argue that climate change was not man-made.

The only Republican who did not vote for the amendment was Mississippi Sen. Roger Wicker.

"With Inhofe's re-framing the question, the Democrats, trying to engineer a gotcha moment, ended up empty-handed on the vote, with neither the satisfaction of nailing down opposition to scientific consensus and without a point of leverage for future discussions of addressing the warming planet," according to Post writer Philip Bump.

Politico reports that a GOP Senate aide needled Democrats following the vote, questioning why Democrats were wasting their time trying to "embarrass" Republicans on climate change instead of "offering substantive proposals" on carbon tax or cap-and-trade emissions legislation.

"Democrats are stuck in messaging mode," the aide said.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jim-Inhofe-Senate-climate-change-hoax/2015/01/22/id/620031/

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posted January 22, 2015 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get the joke? The Democrats were outsmarted.

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