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jwhop
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posted January 09, 2015 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howard Dean says the murderers who slaughtered 12 French citizens aren't Islamic Muslim Terrorists!

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Howard Dean: Paris attackers not ‘Muslim terrorists’
January 08, 2015
FoxNews.com

Former Democratic Party head Howard Dean objected to calling the shooters in the Paris attack "Muslim terrorists," though the attackers were witnessed shouting "Allahu akbar" as they fired.

Dean, speaking Wednesday on MSNBC, argued that they should be treated as "mass murderers" instead.

"I stopped calling these people Muslim terrorists. They're about as Muslim as I am," he said. "I mean, they have no respect for anybody else's life, that's not what the Koran says. And, you know Europe has an enormous radical problem. ... I think ISIS is a cult. Not an Islamic cult. I think it's a cult."

The journalists targeted in Wednesday's attack worked for a satirical publication known for lampooning the Prophet Muhammad. A video shot from nearby captured one attacker shouting in French that they had "avenged" the prophet.

Dean, a former Vermont governor and presidential candidate, said they still should not be accorded any "particular religious respect ... whatever they're claiming their motivation is, is clearly a twisted, cultish mind."

Dean is hardly the first public figure to try and separate modern-day Muslim extremists from the religion of Islam. In September, Secretary of State John Kerry insisted during a congressional hearing that the Islamic State does "not represent Islam."

He called them a "militant cult masquerading as a religious movement." After using the phrase "Islamic radical groups," he immediately corrected himself. "Islamic is the wrong word -- radical religious extremists," he clarified.

While Obama and top officials in his administration referred to the Paris attack Wednesday as terrorism, they generally did not use the term Islamic terrorism.

But Steve Emerson, director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism, criticized officials for avoiding the term.

"The bottom line here, these are Islamic terrorist attacks and need to be called as such," he told Fox News on Wednesday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/08/howard-dean-paris-attackers-not-muslim -terrorists/

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posted January 11, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dean has a point. Men in masks shouting "for allah" could just as easily be anti-islam activists looking to spark resentment among the public. Terrorism is terrorism and when Christians do it it tends to be shrugged off as "lone nutjob" ; it is the act, not the rationale, that must be dealt with.

Somehow many people think there is a qualitative difference between a muslim bomb or suicide mission and a Christian or Jewish one?

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posted January 11, 2015 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/americas-10-worst- terror-attacks-by-christian-fundamentalist-and-far-right-extremists/

Those who sympathize with the cause will generally see terrorism as "rough justice"

Or are the 10 listed CAUSED by Christian beliefs?

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posted January 12, 2015 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The clip I posted in pire's thread may be a red herring but it does make the point that things are not always as simple as they might seem. Indeed masks and stock phrases do not prove anything...perhaps the vid was faked, or is the narrative that is wrong?

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posted January 12, 2015 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/189630

Again the Muslim community repudiates terrorists who claim to be avenging Islam. Muslims line the streets with their fellow countrymen to stand against this behavior. During the attacks Muslims distinguished themselves in defending lives.

You want to call this a Muslim issue, then own your Christian issues equally... you know, the parents who try to beat the devil out of their kids; the religiously "prolife" shooters and those who call waterboarding"baptizing terrorists..."

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