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Randall
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posted June 03, 2015 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We've mentioned before that the climate models the United Nations and others use to claim that the planet is becoming dangerously hot are flawed. In fact, they're just plain wrong. We base our belief in part on the work of Roy Spencer, a climate scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, who has said that 95% of the models have over-forecast the warming trend since 1979.

John Christy, one of Spencer's colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, made the same point before the House Committee on Natural Resources in the middle of May (see his chart).

Given that there's so much evidence contrary to the global warming narrative, climate scientist Patrick J. Michaels justifiably wants to know when other climate scientists will finally admit they've been wrong.

"Day after day, year after year, the hole that climate scientists have buried themselves in gets deeper and deeper," Michaels writes on the Cato Institute blog.

"The longer that they wait to admit their overheated forecasts were wrong, the more they are going to harm all of science."

Unfortunately, it seems that their agenda is more important than science to many of those who are sticking to their story.
http://news.investors.com/Blogs-Capital-Hill/060215-755455-global-warming-models-are-wrong.htm

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AcousticGod
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posted June 05, 2015 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It doesn't matter how long a denialist thinks the other side should relent. As long as the other side is in the right, they're not going to relent.

The models aren't perfect, but they're not as flawed as they're made out to be either. Using models as an EXCUSE to attempt denial of global warming is, by now, a very transparently wrong tactic. In fact, one scientist at NOAA is now saying that there was no hiatus. He could be wrong in some part of his analysis, but it doesn't look like this is going away any time soon.

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Randall
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posted June 05, 2015 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's amusing to watch the IPCC and NOAA disagree. Almost as amusing as watching them try to explain the hiatus with that lame ocean story. Warming of the planet is outside of human control. CO2 is at record levels, but still no warming. CO2 is a good thing. Warming or no warming--it doesn't matter one bit. Let the planet warm. Let it cool. Let it stay the same. Gore and company will still be making billions on you suckers and laughing all the way to the bank.

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Randall
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posted June 06, 2015 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The other side has never been in the right. The planet isn't cooking. Nothing they predicted has come to pass. At best, they are incompetent. At worst, they are charlatan psychics. I don't believe a single word out of their lying mouths. They have zero credibility, and all grant funding should be pulled for climate research. The EPA should be destroyed. I hope a Republican president will help to accomplish these things.

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jwhop
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posted June 07, 2015 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, the High Priests of the Man Made Global Warming Religion just can't seem to get it right!

Now they say the oceans are absorbing more of the Sun's energy and heating the earth's oceans....which is supposedly delaying the rise in earth's surface temperatures. AND, that's the reason for the 18 year flat and declining global temperatures!

Oh, but wait. That would mean more frequent and more powerful hurricanes as ocean surface waters release all that heat energy into the atmosphere.

The High Priests of the Man Made Global Warming Religion always have an excuse for why temperatures are flat-lining and even declining.

So, are we actually experiencing more hurricanes and more violent hurricanes.

Ummmm, well NO.


9/05/2012
Don't Believe The Global Warmists, Major Hurricanes Are Less Frequent
James Taylor

When Hurricane Isaac made landfall in southern Louisiana last week, the storm provided a rare break in one of the longest periods of hurricane inactivity in U.S. history. Seeking to deflect attention away from this comforting trend, global warming alarmists attempted a high-profile head fake, making public statements that the decline in recent hurricane activity masked an increase in strong, damaging hurricanes.

“The hurricanes that really matter, that cause damage, are increasing,” John Abraham, a mechanical engineer on the staff of little-known University of St. Thomas in St. Paul, Minnesota, told Discovery News.

Normally, of course, the subjective global climate opinions of a mechanical engineer at an obscure Minnesota university wouldn’t be national news. However, global warming alarmists put Abraham forward as the point man for their self-proclaimed Climate Science Rapid Response Team. But hey, if Abraham is the best they can do, so be it.

Abraham says major hurricanes are the only ones that really matter, and that major hurricanes are increasing. If that is indeed so, then we might have a cause for concern. Let’s go straight to the data to find out if major hurricanes are indeed increasing.

The National Hurricane Center (NHC) provides information on major U.S. hurricanes during the past 100-plus years.According to the NHC, 70 major hurricanes struck the United States in the 100 years between 1911 and 2010. That is an average of 7 major hurricane strikes per decade. What are the trends within this 100-year span? Let’s take a look.

Let’s split the 100-year hurricane record in half, starting with major hurricane strikes during the most recent 50 years.

During the most recent decade, 2001-2010, 7 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is exactly the 100-year average.

During the preceding decade, 1991-2000, 6 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is below the 100-year average.

During the decade 1981-1990, 4 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is substantially below the 100-year average, and ties the least number of major hurricanes on record.

During the decade 1971-1980, 4 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is substantially below the 100-year average, and ties 1981-1990 as the two decades with the least number of major hurricanes.

During the decade 1961-1970, 7 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is exactly the 100-year average.

Incredibly, not a single decade during the past 50 years saw an above-average number of major hurricanes – not a single decade!

Now let’s look at the preceding 50 years in the hurricane record, before the alleged human-induced global warming crisis.

During the decade 1951-1960, 9 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is above the 100-year average.

During the decade 1941-1950, 11 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is substantially above the 100-year average.

During the decade 1931-1940, 8 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is above the 100-year average.

During the decade 1921-1930, 6 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is slightly below the 100-year average.

During the decade 1911-1920, 8 major hurricanes struck the United States. That is above the 100-year average.

Global warming alarmists and mechanical engineers at obscure Minnesota universities may lie, but the objective data do not lie. During the past 5 decades, an average of 5.6 major hurricanes struck the United States. During the preceding 5 decades, and average of 8.4 major hurricanes struck the United States.

“The hurricanes that really matter, that cause damage” are not increasing. Hard, objective data show exactly the opposite. Indeed, during the past 4 decades, the time period during which global warming alarmists claim human-induced global warming accelerated rapidly and became incontrovertible, the fewest number of major hurricanes struck during any 40-year period since at least the 1800s.

Oh, and during the first two years of this current decade exactly zero major hurricanes struck the United States.

Global warming alarmists better hope we start seeing a rash of major hurricanes pretty soon if this is not going to be the quietest decade on record. Until and unless that happens, the objective data show the Climate Science Rapid Response Team is actually the Climate Science Rapid Propaganda Team.

But hey, if that’s the best they can do, so be it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2012/09/05/dont -believe-the-global-warmists-major-hurricanes-are-less-frequent/

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