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jwhop
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posted June 18, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wait, that's not right!

O'Bomber is gearing up to make war on......"French Fries"!

O'Bomber, the long nosed busybody meddler infesting the White House isn't performing his primary duty of faithfully executing America's laws and protecting the United States and American citizens.

Nope!

O'Bomber is going to make war on French Fries while at the same time avoiding the execution of the laws passed by Congress.

Drop those fries! Here comes Obama's food police
New rules ban major ingredient that gives snacks flavor
2 days ago

The Food and Drug Administration is ordering food companies to eliminate trans fats from their products within three years, a move being hailed by the medical community but excoriated by free-market advocates who believe this is the just the beginning of the government taking nutritional decision out of the hands of consumers.

Tuesday’s FDA decision targets partially hydrogenated oils, or PHOs, which are commonly called trans fats. Companies can petition the FDA for an exemption but will not be able to include trans fats without federal permission starting in 2018.

Cardiologists are hailing the decision, saying trans fats are linked to obesity, high cholesterol and heart disease. But defenders of the free market say this is a solution in search of a problem.

“Trans fats have been phased out of our diets over the past decade, and we’ve reduced consumption as a result of the market demand more than 80 percent over the last decade,” said Jeff Stier, director of the Risk Analysis Division at the National Center for Public Policy Research.

While Stier admits that market demand is due in large part of mandatory labels on foods containing trans fats, he said the doctors are getting this one wrong.

“The argument that these cardiologists are trying to make is that we have to remove every last vestige, every little bit of trans fat that’s left in the diet,” he said. “There is no evidence to support that.”

Even more maddening to Stier is that trans fats only came about because of previous demands by liberal interest groups.

“The reason we have trans fats in the diet and they were so widely in use 15 years ago is because groups like the Center for Science in the Public Interest, the food police that was behind the the ban of trans fats, a generation ago was scaring us about saturated fates,” Stier said.

“They pressured us and threatened regulation to remove saturated fat from the diet whenever possible. The industry responded and introduced and increased the use of trans fats because of this concern over saturated fat,” he said.

Stier said the shift to eradicating trans fats follows a long time of contradictory demands from the left.

“I think this ought to be a lesson in humility for the activist groups, who have been telling us, ‘Eat eggs. Don’t eat eggs. Eat butter. Don’t eat butter. Eat margarine instead. Don’t eat margarine instead,’” he said. “We ought to be a little more careful about this advice and the consequences of it.”

Don’t expect the order on trans fats to be the last dietary directive from the Obama administration. Stier said Obama has hired many of the same people former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg employed to crack down on trans fats, salt, big sodas and other targets in the Big Apple. Centers for Disease and Control Director Dr. Thomas Frieden, who gained notoriety during the Ebola scare, served as Bloomberg’s top adviser on health policy.

The Obama administration is already seeking to impose other dietary changes.

“The Obama administration scientific committee called for less consumption of meat and more plant-based diets, not only because they’re healthier but because they allege that eating meat causes global warming. Therefore, we ought to change how we eat because of its impact on global warming,” said Stier, who added that his organization is challenging the administration’s agenda every step of the way and is urging Congress to assert its rightful authority on these issues.

“It’ll be interesting to see whether the Obama administration stays with that left-wing point of view or the law is instituted as Congress called for and that nutritional advice given out by the USDA and the FDA are actually based on nutrition rather than things like global warming,” Stier said.

In the meantime, do trace amounts of trans fats damage Americans’ health? Stier is skeptical, given that many of them are found in occasionally eaten foods like dessert toppings.

“Who’s worried about sprinkles? There are very low levels of consumption. It plays a very important role in baking cakes, especially in the icing. You shouldn’t eat lots of icing on cake anyway, but these very, very small levels serve an important role,” said Stier, who noted that the alternatives to trans fats are maddeningly ironic.

“If you take them out of the food supply, they’re going to have to be replaced by other things, like butter, like palm oil, which activists don’t like because of their claim that it’s affecting rainforests in Malaysia,” he said.

Ultimately, Stier believes politics trumped science in the FDA’s decision, and there will be negative consequences, including diminished shelf life.

“We’ll have more food waste because foods won’t be as stable,” he said. “They’ll go rancid quicker with other oils. So I don’t think the FDA has done an appropriate job of weighing these benefits and making a clear case of what the benefits are (very small) versus lots of unintended consequences. That’s where they usually get into trouble, by ignoring the unintended consequences.”
http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/drop-those-fries-here-comes-obamas-food-police/?cat_orig=health

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posted June 18, 2015 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How DID we ever make fries before transfats? Heresy and treason! Impeach!

Hydrogenated oils are like so much styrofoam in your blood stream..

It is true that nutrition fads come and go but saturated fats are essential to metabolism..in moderation. Just because someone corrects their course when they see rocks ahead that weren't on the map doesn't mean the whole course was wrong..nor that the rocks are imaginary. It exposes..a willingness to admit error.

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posted June 18, 2015 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if trans fats are not so hot then why did meddling idiot leftists force America to switch to them?

With all the trouble in the world...including in America, why in the hell is our little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber declaring war on French Fries but murderous terrorists get a pass!

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posted June 19, 2015 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who forced Americans to switch to them? I have barely eaten a transfat in 25 years..and they are not an exclusively American product either.

No one is waging war on french fries. They have been around as long as cooking oil and long before hydrigenated fats crept into foods to preserve shelf life...food manufacturers were the main culprits in spreading them..even before labelling laws informed us they were there.

Like I said, jwhop, lots of people, companies, scientists and politicians make mistakes. The crime is not in correcting them but refusing to acknowledge one might have done something wrong. And digging one's heels in for the sake of personal grudges.

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posted June 19, 2015 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Even more maddening to Stier is that trans fats only came about because of previous demands by liberal interest groups.

“The reason we have trans fats in the diet and they were so widely in use 15 years ago is because groups like the Center for Science in the Public Interest, the food police that was behind the the ban of trans fats, a generation ago was scaring us about saturated fates,” Stier said.

“They pressured us and threatened regulation to remove saturated fat from the diet whenever possible. The industry responded and introduced and increased the use of trans fats because of this concern over saturated fat,” he said.

Oh, so sorry. I thought you had at least read the article you've been commenting on.

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posted June 19, 2015 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama said that climate change is more of a threat than terrorists. I guess we can add french fries to that list now. How can anyone possibly take that idiot seriously?

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posted June 20, 2015 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read the article. I happen to think its a load of hooey. The entire medical message on cholesterol/saturated fats/heart disease was not a liberal scam to force hydrogenated fats on people. Whatever some doofus agency "threatened" never happened but transfats are an invention of the mass food producers to increase shelf life and far predates the last couple of decades.A good deal of the misinfo on saturated fats was paid for by the same sorts who are now saying gmos are necessary to prevent food shortages, even though data illustrates their crops are not hardier and actively contribute to superweeds and soil destruction...

there is also the factor of poorly drawn conclusions thst eating "high chokesterol"foods equated with high chokesterol in the bloodstream, which further research has proven wrong..

nutritional info distorted for commercial purposes is ever with us.

French fries still long precede transfats in the cuisine and your war on french fries is a load of hooey about nothing. There will still be french fries and guess what? They taste just as good without transfats.

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posted June 22, 2015 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It didn't happen because the industry...after being threatened...changed their cooking oil TO TRANS-FATS to appease the leftist idiot brigades.

Now, to confirm their idiot status, leftists want industry cooking oils changed FROM TRANS-FATS.

Idiot leftists won't be satisfied until food is totally tasteless. You know, tasteless, like Michelle O'Bomber's "Mystery Mush" school students are throwing in the cafeteria trash cans.

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posted June 22, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
French fries were better before transfats, certainly not without flavor or they wouldn't have been so popular around the world. Or did you never have them as a child? Are you saying leftist pressure created better french fries? Careful now

Still A load of hooey about nothing.

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posted June 22, 2015 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's right, food tasted better before idiot leftists began agitating for different cooling oils...including lard and saturated fats.

Now, idiot leftists aren't even satisfied with the tasteless foods prepared in...trans fats.

There's no satisfying leftist morons. Since that's true, there's no longer any reason to ever try.

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posted June 23, 2015 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of posts ago you were saying transfats gave BETTER FLAVOUR now they are tasteless. Which is it?

Were Crisco and Skippy creamy peanut butter also leftist crimes? Transfats came into foods with supermarkets and mass production. They extend shelf life and thereby increase profits. Doesn't sound like a leftist invention to me.

Your trouble is you think every mistake is a lie, and admitting error is on a par with criminality. The thing about science is it isnt static. Even gravity is open to debunking if evidence comes up to refute it. Not everyone who changes their mind is a liar.

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posted June 23, 2015 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"A couple of posts ago you were saying transfats gave BETTER FLAVOUR..."

Hahaha , I never said any such thing!

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posted June 23, 2015 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes you're right. You just posted the article I have been calling hooey..which says that in it's lead in. My bad. I mistook your posting it for a statement of agreement, and your continued defense of it as more of the same. Perhaps you don't read what you post any more thoroughly than you read my posts?

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posted June 24, 2015 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm perfectly capable of saying exactly what I intend to say.

I don't need you to dishonestly distort what I actually say by attempting to put different words in my mouth.

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posted June 24, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read just above the pic of Obama, jwhop, what does it say? Sets the scene for an article that starts with falsehood and goes on to full hooey status.

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posted June 25, 2015 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Drop those fries! Here comes Obama's food police
New rules ban major ingredient that gives snacks flavor"

Ok, where's the lie?

It may be arguable whether frying foods in transfats gives better flavor but that's a matter of personal TASTE!

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