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Randall
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posted June 24, 2015 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy said Monday during a White House summit on global warming that "climate deniers" are not normal humans.

According to The Daily Caller, McCarthy addressed a group of doctors, health professionals, and others about why the EPA feels climate change is a public health issue.

"I am doing that not to push back on climate deniers," McCarthy said, reports The Daily Caller, alluding to the EPA's practice of releasing reports to inform the public about climate change. "You can have fun doing that if you want, but I've batted my head against the wall too many times and if the science already hasn't changed their mind it never will.

"But in any democracy, it's not them that carries the day. It is normal human beings that haven't put their stake into politics above science. It's normal human beings that want us to do the right thing, and we will if you help us."

According to The Hill, McCarthy made the case that climate change is "the biggest public health challenge of our time."

Ahead of McCarthy's remarks, the White House released an action plan for dealing with climate change, which includes multiple federal agencies, reports The Hill.

The 2015 Lancet Commission on Health and Climate Change, meanwhile, released a report in the medical journal The Lancet detailing its findings about climate change and how it relates to public health.

"Climate change is a medical emergency," commission co-chair Professor Hugh Montgomery said in a press release, according to Discovery. "It thus demands an emergency response, using the technologies available right now."

On Monday, it was reported that the White House has asked the Pentagon to measure the amount of ice in the Arctic.

The Obama administration argued that a decreased amount of ice in the Arctic could lead to a greater military presence there.

"Difficulty in developing accurate sea ice models, variability in the Arctic's climate, and the uncertain rate of activity in the region create challenges for DOD to balance the risk of having inadequate capabilities or insufficient capacity when required to operate in the region with the cost of making premature or unnecessary investments," a recent study from the Government Accountability Office reads.

"DOD plans to mitigate this risk by monitoring the changing Arctic conditions to determine the appropriate timing for capability investments."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/EPA-Gina-McCarthy-climate-change/2015/06/23/id/651894/

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posted July 17, 2015 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Methinks they doth protest too much.

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jwhop
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posted July 18, 2015 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every thing this Marxist clown touches turns into instant crap!

You would think the O'Bomber caused Middle East turmoil, the illegal immigration problem, the non-existent American economy, terrorist attacks within America, the failure of O'BomberCare, the dissolving European Union..and the Euro, Russia invading Ukraine and all the other O'Bomber failures and problems in the world would occupy O'Bomber...full time.

But no, Man Made Global Warming...which isn't..is the real problem in the world!

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posted July 18, 2015 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't know what to make of coming to GU and seeing the two of you post things that I agree with. I get that Twilight Zone kind of feeling, like, "Maybe I shouldn't go down into the basement the scary organ music is coming from."

Hey, jwhop, do you still think Bush was a good guy?

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posted July 19, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you considered the possibility you've skipped to an alternate universe?

Yeah, Bush is a good guy who got bad intelligence from the DCI.

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posted July 19, 2015 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eirlys     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Climate change is a medical emergency," commission co-chair

Professor Hugh Montgomery said in a press release, according to

Discovery. "It thus demands an emergency response, using the

technologies available right now."
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Such as?


Notice, there's never anything definitive-- just a vague idea

that... idk, the sky is falling and SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!

Posthaste!

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posted July 19, 2015 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I've noticed they're short on details but long on recommendations.

Well, it's possible that in this alternate universe, you're a conservative!

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posted July 19, 2015 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Just sayin'...

In all seriousness, though, Mr. Whop, since last we sparred I've become very content to leave others to their differing opinions. Just do me one favor, okay? Try not to make the weaker ones cry. It speaks ill of your character.

Best of luck in all that you do.

(Please, continue with the climate change conversation. I just needed to slip that in while I had the chance.)

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posted July 19, 2015 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard this conspiracy theory before...many times.

Want to take a shot and tell us who...names please...is/are pulling the strings on the reputed most powerful men on earth?

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posted July 20, 2015 08:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever held a political office, j? I'm talking Senator/Representative or higher.

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posted July 20, 2015 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The answer is NO.

I noticed you didn't name a single individual who you suppose is the hidden hand of power behind presidents and members of Congress.

Is that because you don't know?

Until you do know, it's just rumor, conjecture and supposition that a conspiracy exists but it's utterly useless speculation.

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posted July 20, 2015 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for answering my question, and for being honest.

I don't think anyone can disagree with this wisdom: that when I want to learn Math, I don't go to the English teacher; when I want to learn History, I don't go to the Science teacher for it. One learns a subject from those who have spent their time and energy having experiences with that subject. So when I want to know what goes on in national/international politics, I'm likewise going to take my cues from those who have experience in it and are therefore, unlike you, in a position to know.

Let's consider their words:

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

-- Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England 1874-1880


"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

-- Lawrence P. McDonald, Georgia Representative 1975-1983


"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

-- Woodrow Wilson, U.S. President 1913-1921


"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

-- Strobe Talbot, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State 1994-2001


"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."

-- John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York 1918-1925


"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."

-- Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President 1933-1945


"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."

-- Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court Justice 1939-1962


"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people."

-- William Jenner, Indiana Senator 1947-1959


"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States."

-- Barry Goldwater, Arizona Senator 1969-1987


"The Council on Foreign Relations is 'the establishment.' Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship."

-- John Rarick, Louisiana Representative 1967-1975

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If you want to deny the existence of the global conspiracy, and want to discredit those who are aware of it as "mere conspiracy theorists", then you are likewise opposing and attempting to discredit the men I just quoted -- which you cannot successfully do, because these men have had actual contact with the New World Order that your beloved Bushes have trumpeted about so loudly, while you have not. It is you who are the theorist, actually. And your theories aren't even your own, nor do they take any degree of intelligence or analytical effort to arrive at; you're just parrotting the party line.

Try harder, my friend. You're not dead yet.

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posted July 21, 2015 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, you're convinced there's a shadow government in total control of Congress, the Judicial system and the Executive Branch of government.

You've still not named a single conspirator...conspirator is the right word considering such a behind the scenes government would be totally illegal under US law and the Constitution.

Here's another question for you...who seem to be a true believer in this conspiracy.

What are you doing about it?

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posted July 21, 2015 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As usual, I've got the better question.

Since you apparently believe that the U.S. government is impervious to such corruption, what, then, were Benjamin Disraeli, Lawrence McDonald, Woodrow Wilson, Strobe Talbot, John Hylan, Franklin Roosevelt, Felix Frankfurter, William Jenner, Barry Goldwater, and John Rarick referring to? Remember, they aren't just armchair philosophers; they are the government and had the benefit of being able to speak from experience, unlike you and me. Will you cherry-pick what you personally prefer to believe, as you do from one President to the next, and denounce them ALL in your "infinite (but totally theoretical) wisdom" as paranoid delusionals? Or can you appreciate that maybe these men had an opportunity to observe something that is deliberately hidden from us at the bottom of the totem pole and open your crusty old mind to a new possibility for the first time in 50 years? All you have to lose is your ego -- and I've no idea why you've been holding on to that for so long, anyway. Heck, at half your age or less I started getting thoroughly sick of mine.

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posted July 21, 2015 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you wish to have a conversation with me, then answer my questions...with answers, instead of posing another question..or questions.

My questions go right to the heart of the matter you claim exists.

Who are these people?

AND

What are you doing about it?

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I don't answer your questions for the obvious reason that they're not sincere. It's impossible to ask someone a sincere question about something you believe is imaginary. You can only humor them, as you would a child in asking "What did Santa Claus bring you this year?"

I'm also not answering either of those questions because my present concern is not the "New World Order"; it's you.

How many of my questions can you evade before the common denominator of them becomes apparent even to yourself?

Think about this: the desire to rule the world, the ultimate extremity of the ubiquitous desire for control, has manifested in humans throughout history. Why do you speak from the assumption that this desire has vanished from the world?

You're intelligent enough to understand that in our modern world, money is power. If you were in control of the largest supply of money in the world, and it came into your head that you wanted to control everything, what could stop you?

And, knowing that the other seven billion people on the planet would not willingly give up their autonomy to you, and would likely resist, would you not have to exercise your control covertly?

Do you have an answer as to why the men I quoted "believed" as I do?

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posted July 21, 2015 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey pal, you're not answering the questions because:

1. You don't know who these people are. Since you don't know that, you don't even know if the secret behind the scenes government exists. You are locked into rumor, supposition and extrapolation from tantalizing tidbits you've read. At best, you SUSPECT.

2. If you truly believed what you say you believe, you would be doing a hell of a lot more than trying to play Paul Revere, riding in on your trusty steed screeching about a suspected conspiracy.

If, if, if you're right, then the conspirators don't give a rat's ass about your screeching, howling and shrieking about them. If, if, if you're right, they hold all the high cards and the only remedy is to kill them. If you're not willing to do that then, you're just pi$$ing into the wind.

I suspect you've been listening to way too much Alex Jones, David Icke and George Noory.

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posted July 21, 2015 09:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, pal, you're not answering my questions, either. And my questions actually serve an achievable purpose.

But... sadly...

"People only see what they are prepared to see."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

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posted July 21, 2015 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I'm willing to stipulate you're a superior being with intellectual, moral and spiritual powers far above average earthlings...a Master of the Universe.

Given your intellectual, moral and spiritual superiority, you're in the perfect position to answer my questions.

Do so!

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All the sarcasm in the world gains you nothing. Why do you want to talk about me? That would be boring; we're all already well aware of how insulting you can be. I'd rather have a serious conversation about you, sans all sarcasm. Does that prospect scare you?

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posted July 22, 2015 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What we're all aware of is that you're ducking, bobbing, weaving and evading answering reasonable, rational questions.

You're the one who opened the "hidden government" gambit. Your evasions in answering what should be easy questions looks a lot like crawfishing...unless you don't know who these people are.

In that case, you should stick to subjects you know something about. You've made a sweeping accusation the US government and Constitution have been overthrown by hidden conspirators. Where's your proof? Someone said, that someone said, that someone said, that someone said isn't going to cut the mustard.

Passive-Aggressive personality types don't cut any ice with me!

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posted July 23, 2015 12:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, you're scared all right. You don't even own a mirror, do you, j?

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posted July 23, 2015 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Passive-Aggressive personality types don't cut any ice with me!

Hi! Hi!

Just wanted to say, that I find extremely interesting when someone calls another person passive-agressive (and then lol). Because when is quite the opposite context... people start saying: "Oh this person cannot elaborate and argument without attacking" - "Blah, blah blah what an ignorant person" - "Please, some mod BAN this Toxic being, etc etc"
"Oh my goodness this person just kicked my butt with some facts (oh god, oh god, holy geeezus where's my mommy! )
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And I've experienced the same thing at least over 9000 times, that I even wonder how a person like me can have more experience when dealing with people than folks that could be easily my parents.

Anyway, sweeties.
Doesn't matter if you're a total wimp/coward or a neck hunter. People is going to say something about it, which is very funny...

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posted July 23, 2015 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemBird82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and I could say 2-3 things about what this dude, this 7thsphere... is mentioning.

But I honestly think, it would be pointless... because I assume (pardon me, if I'm assuming wrong) big part of the audience here is still a big fan of Darwinism, Freud and/or Immanuel Velikovsky; which is... Hmmm... how to say it? hahahah! laughable as Hell, because... lol that's so dumb, so 18th century, so fake that there are no appropiate words in my mental database to express such failure lol !

So there's no point is discussing something with the victims of the Prussian education system lol! ( btw, just in case... such system was designed to educate slaves and not good citizens )
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no offense
Bye!

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posted July 23, 2015 05:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GemBird, I love your little rabbits! (Had to mention that.)

I've never come across the phrase "Prussian education system" before, ever... I'll look it up. But control of the masses through control of the information they're exposed to is a time-tested political concept I am familiar with.

And, yeah. When you find the boundaries of the mental box a person's in, beyond which he fears to venture, out come the pop-psychology terms, like "passive-aggressive". If I had a nickel, right? Yada, yada, yada.

Thanks for chiming in. But please don't stay, I hate to see good people choking on cigar fumes. (Me? Alas, I'm a smoker, too; I can handle it.)

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