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Randall
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posted September 08, 2015 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Obama hiked to Exit Glacier in Alaska last week, with photographers in tow, to send the world a message: The glacier is melting.

Obama blames it on the increasing use of fossil fuels such as coal, oil and natural gas, which he wants to restrict not only in the United States but worldwide. The photo op was designed to build support for an international climate agreement he’s pushing hard to sell, so far with little success.

Trouble is, the president needs to get his facts straight. Exit Glacier has been shrinking for 200 years — since 1815 — long before widespread industrialization and automobiles. As the president ended his trip, he sounded the alarm again: “This state’s climate is changing before our eyes.”

News flash, Mr. President: Alaska has been buffeted by cyclical swings in climate for thousands of years. That’s true for the rest of the world, too. There was a 300-year-long Medieval heat wave, followed by a Little Ice Age that began around 1300, and then the 300-year warming period we’re in now.

The Anchorage Daily Times ran a front-page story in 1922 recording the “unheard-of temperatures” in the Arctic and glaciers disappearing. “The Arctic Ocean is warming up and icebergs are growing scarcer.”

Oblivious to the history of constant climate change, Obama pointed to Exit Glacier and said: “We want to make sure our grandkids can see this.”

He may get his wish, but it won’t be because of anything he’s doing. The current warming trend appears to be over, speculates Roger Cohen, a fellow of the American Physical Society. The Alaska Climate Research Center reports almost no evidence of warming trends in Alaska since 1977.

Many scientists are predicting the onset of two or three centuries of cooler weather — which would mean bigger glaciers. That’s despite the world’s growing use of fossil fuels. No matter what humans do, temperature trends go up, and then down; glaciers expand and then recede; sea levels rise and then fall, explains Will Happer, professor emeritus of physics at Princeton.

That doesn’t mean pollution controls are futile. We all want to breathe clean air. But don’t blame climate change on humans. There are bigger forces at work here.

Scientists disagree about what these forces are, and are researching better ways of accurately measuring temperature trends via satellite. Amid all this controversy and uncertainty about global climate change, Obama blindly insists that his theory of global warming “is beyond dispute” and attacks his critics as “deniers.”

Sounding more like an Old Testament doomsayer than a president, Obama warned in his Alaska speech that unless carbon fuels are restricted, “we will condemn our children to a planet beyond their capacity to repair: Submerged countries. Abandoned cities. Fields no longer growing.” Sounds scary, but he’s on thin ice backing up those predictions.

Despite Obama’s professed concern for the people of Alaska affected by climate change, his visit was more about theatrics than helping locals. Alaska’s Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski lambasted Obama’s job-killing new restrictions on oil and gas drilling in the Arctic. Obama says the region’s “very fragile,” but Murkowski is more worried that the economy is fragile. “It’s clear this administration does not care about us and sees us as nothing but a territory,” she said.

It’s a demonstration of Obama’s appalling lack of priorities. The president told his Alaska audience that “few things will disrupt our lives as profoundly as climate change.” Really, Mr. President? How about the epidemic of cop shootings in the United States, or the drowned toddlers washing up on Mediterranean shores as families flee the Middle East, or ISIS beheading thousands of Christians?

Obama says that with climate change, more than any other issue, “there is such a thing as being too late.” Tell that to a cop’s widow or the father who watched his family drown.
http://nypost.com/2015/09/07/wake-up-obama-climate-change-has-been-happening-forever/

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juniperb
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posted September 08, 2015 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww, let him snooze. His show is about over

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posted September 09, 2015 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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AcousticGod
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posted September 28, 2015 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone that thinks the Earth is magically self-correcting hasn't observed the life-cycle of virtually any physical object. To believe it's incorruptible is naïve.

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posted September 29, 2015 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gaia Theory, invented by James Lovelock, discusses Earths innate balancing - "self correcting" mechanisms..not magical but very understandable from a physical sciences perspective.

The same Lovelock has long been warning that our destruction of the earth and environment have thrown off her "homeostat" and that the consequence will be her inability to self correct.

The fixers and the destroyers are both waving half-cocked guns in a smoking saloon...

But despite Obama granting drilling permits in Alaska, making all the OP fuss more like fizzle..Shell is backing off of exercising those drilling rights.

It was big oil that originally started the carbon scare, did you know thst Randall?

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Randall
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posted September 29, 2015 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone who thinks we humans can affect the climate is naive.

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posted September 29, 2015 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know what desertification is? And how it happens?

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posted September 29, 2015 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you add a sweet food to the end of a meal?

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posted September 30, 2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Anyone who thinks we humans can affect the climate is naive.

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Catalina
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posted October 01, 2015 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect a pun, Randall. Anyway I hope that was meant to be silly.

Lawyers need to be letter perfect..one misspelled word can destroy a case

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posted October 04, 2015 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution HALF the world's forests have been destroyed. If you think the scrub sprouting in its place its going to replace them you are the naive one.

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Randall
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posted October 04, 2015 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure that is a factual statement.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 05, 2015 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm certain that this isn't a factual statement:

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Anyone who thinks we humans can affect the climate is naive.

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Randall
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posted October 05, 2015 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where is your proof? Without climatologists fudging the numbers, you have none.

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posted October 06, 2015 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have climatologists fudging numbers. Nor have I ever.

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