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Randall
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posted March 31, 2016 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fraud: While the global warming alarmists have done a good job of spreading fright, they haven’t been so good at hiding their real motivation. Yet another one has slipped up and revealed the catalyst driving the climate scare.

We have been told now for almost three decades that man has to change his ways or his fossil-fuel emissions will scorch Earth with catastrophic warming. Scientists, politicians and activists have maintained the narrative that their concern is only about caring for our planet and its inhabitants. But this is simply not true. The narrative is a ruse. They are after something entirely different.

If they were honest, the climate alarmists would admit that they are not working feverishly to hold down global temperatures — they would acknowledge that they are instead consumed with the goal of holding down capitalism and establishing a global welfare state.

Have doubts? Then listen to the words of former United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer:

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.

So what is the goal of environmental policy?

“We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” said Edenhofer.

For those who want to believe that maybe Edenhofer just misspoke and doesn’t really mean that, consider that a little more than five years ago he also said that “the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated.”

Mad as they are, Edenhofer’s comments are nevertheless consistent with other alarmists who have spilled the movement’s dirty secret. Last year, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, made a similar statement.

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said in anticipation of last year’s Paris climate summit.

“This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

The plan is to allow Third World countries to emit as much carbon dioxide as they wish — because, as Edenhofer said, “in order to get rich one has to burn coal, oil or gas” — while at the same time restricting emissions in advanced nations. This will, of course, choke economic growth in developed nations, but they deserve that fate as they “have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community,” he said. The fanaticism runs so deep that one professor has even suggested that we need to plunge ourselves into a depression to fight global warming.

Perhaps Naomi Klein summed up best what the warming the fuss is all about in her book “This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate.”

“What if global warming isn’t only a crisis?” Klein asks in a preview of a documentary inspired by her book. “What if it’s the best chance we’re ever going to get to build a better world?”

In her mind, the world has to “change, or be changed” because an “economic system” — meaning free-market capitalism — has caused environmental “wreckage.”

This is how the global warming alarmist community thinks. It wants to frighten, intimidate and then assume command. It needs a “crisis” to take advantage of, a hobgoblin to menace the people, so that they will beg for protection from the imaginary threat. The alarmists’ “better world” is one in which they rule a global welfare state. They’ve admitted this themselves.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

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posted March 31, 2016 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's Catalina! I have neither the will nor the time to respond to climate change deniers.

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Randall
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posted March 31, 2016 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The climate has always been changing. Before humans existed. But never because of them. CO2 levels are higher than ever in recorded history. Where is the accompanying rise in warming?

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posted April 06, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive said a hundred times my concern is not with temperatures but poisons, Those who believe the fossil fuel companies' conspiracy theories don't seem to see they are also engaged in an attempt to control and exploit but they are dinosaurs. The politics of scarcity are not exclusive to governments!

Even the Rockefeller Family have divested of all fossil fuel interests. Smart money is on solar, and I wouldn't be surprised if the oil/coal/nuke people are selling the public the "impossibility" of solar partly to get their own interests established before there's a run on the market

It has always been a matter of time before technology cracked the delivery side of solar. This link should lead to a transcript of a video which is, basically, selling an investment opportunity...the vid is LONG and i know juni can't see it.

Randall will probably ignore the info because it comes from me.. and therefore must be "leftist" whatever that is
http://pro.moneymappress.com/EADSLR3979/PEADS307/Full?src=fb&h=true

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posted April 07, 2016 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And this article about the mistakes of nutritional scientists throws light on what is called "scientific consensus" and why attributing sinister political motives to the climate change Status Quo may be a mistake. Currently the scientific status quo on vaccinations is going thru similar challenge, and their defenses are just as high as with the now debunked credo that fats cause great disease
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig -john-yudkin

Troible is the "fringe" often adopt the same blindness to their own dogmatism

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posted April 09, 2016 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The majority of university lecturers here lean to the left, i.e., towards anti-imperialism, Marxism, equity and social justice, anti-colonialist, ecologist. It is a complete joy to be in their midst.

To be on the left in academia (in Europe) is the norm. Right winged views are rare but do have their niches in some colleges.

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posted August 06, 2016 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not about saving the planet, and it never was. It's about redistribution of wealth. But to get the masses to accept it as "real" science, fear mongering is used. The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor. CO2 is admittedly higher than ever in modern history; however, it is still just a tiny percent of the total percentage of greenhouse gasses, and man's contribution just a fraction of that. The creators of this hoax knew we have no control over water vapor, so they chose the one thing they could control and eventually tax with carbon credits.

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posted August 06, 2016 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Randall
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posted August 06, 2016 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least he admits it. The left still thinks it's about saving the earth.

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