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Randall
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posted July 05, 2016 01:34 PM
  
So, Bill Clinton meets with the head of the Justice Dept., Lynch, and they announce that they won't be any charges against Hillary. I guess the Clintons are above the law. Corruption as usual.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted July 05, 2016 04:29 PM
Business as usual. Seriously, do you think Bill had any influence on the decision???
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Randall
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posted July 05, 2016 08:14 PM
Of course he did. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted July 05, 2016 09:24 PM
Republican FBI , seriously. You are also saying business as usual?------------------
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Randall
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posted July 05, 2016 11:44 PM
The director of the FBI said Clinton sent 110 classified emails, 8 conversations that were of the highest top secret and that they might have been hacked by hostile actors. Clinton violated the statute--if not by intent, then by gross negligence, since she was extremely careless. The legal definition of gross negligence is extreme carelessness. It should have gone to a grand jury. Instead, he imputed intent in a statute that didn't require it; it only required gross negligence.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted July 06, 2016 08:19 AM
The public can nitpick all they want. The Director of FBI, a Republican, said no "crime" was committed. Carelessness is not a crime.Stupid is not a crime . Sleezyness is not a crime or else washington would be bare of politicans. It is again, business as usual ....except she is a female in the good old boys` club.  ------------------
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Randall
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posted July 06, 2016 01:02 PM
Carelessness IS a crime according to the statute. Extreme carelessness is gross negligence, and gross negligence is a felony violation of the statute. Intent isn't an element of the statute, so intent isn't needed.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted July 06, 2016 04:29 PM
Not in the FBI`s directors professional opinion.------------------
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Randall
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posted July 06, 2016 04:32 PM
It should have been up to a grand jury. If it were any of us, we would have been indicted. The Clintons are above the law. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 06, 2016 04:33 PM
People are fed up with Washington corruption.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 07, 2016 02:09 PM
Well, he actually said she was guilty of violating the statute, but he wasn't recommending charges being filed due to lack of intent.IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted July 07, 2016 10:53 PM
My friends and I play media trends analyst, which means we never watch the news and simply "take their word for it". Instead we take a step back and look at the big picture... Often we see unrest, a shooting, or some crazy politicking that captures all the attention of the U.S., just after the kind of news Americans should be paying attention to comes out of the Middle East or South Asia. Yesterday happened to be a day when I can watch quite a bit of news media. We don't think the assassinations of the two black men, especially the one in Louisiana, are incidents separate or isolated from the FBI director's decision on Hillary. We are a disillusioned lot. These things have a smell and taste for us now. We could give Obama's speeches for him. Plz don't quote IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 08, 2016 12:42 AM
A sniper or snipers shot 11 police officers at a Dallas rally.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 08, 2016 12:36 PM
Correction: 12 shot with 5 dead.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted July 08, 2016 05:07 PM
The media was seeding "isis" when it was a homegrown terrorist with no affiliations.------------------
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pire
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posted July 10, 2016 03:46 AM
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@randallParanoia is something to be wary of when one is trying to be wiser. Discernment isn't something you get by reading the back of your cereal box ! On a side note : philando castile prove that the second amendment isn't what keep US citizens safe IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell
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posted July 10, 2016 07:31 AM
I'm not sure Randall is expressing any kind of paranoia.My my views come from 20 years of activism in the war torn east. (edit) IP: Logged |
pire
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posted July 10, 2016 08:22 AM
Fair enough, you do doubt the official propaganda, I do too, on many topics,However, As you said you don't think that the assassination of the man in Louisiana is separate or isolated from the recomendation of the FBI to not press charges against Clinton. That means that someone is being killed to divert the attention from Clinton? I That is paranoia to me. at least lack of discernment If, on the other hand you are suggesting here that media coverage has the power to bring focus on some issues and in this way to control and orient the agenda of societies' s debates, then I concur. however, I think using the assassination of a black man by a white policeman in USA of 21st century to raise consciousness, or attract attention on the problem of media's power is not a wise analysis of the way to solve issues of racism.
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StubbornVirgo
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posted July 20, 2016 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
It is again, business as usual ....except she is a female in the good old boys` club.
Yep. I trust her. IP: Logged |
Harpyr
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posted August 04, 2016 12:56 AM
Director Comey said he wasn't recommending indictment because "no reasonable prosecutor would take the case". I interpret that to mean the corruption is so deep that no one is willing to take on the Clintons. We are being ruled by a mafia of corporatists. I'm so disgusted. I keep visualizing wikileaks dropping a truth bomb so big she can't stay on the ticket and they have to turn to Bernie. I know it's probably delusional at this point to have such hope. White collar criminals of all sorts, including political elites get away with murder now and we're just going to have to accept we have lost any opportunity to stop them by voting. They just cheat at everything. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 04, 2016 01:10 AM
Yes, I believe that was code for what the Clintons could have done to anyone who did try to prosecute her. In the very least lose his career. But there have been many suspicious deaths and suicides that have followed the Clintons since the Arkansas days. One can only wonder what they did to get poor Sanders to say he supports her.IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted August 04, 2016 02:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Harpyr:
Director Comey said he wasn't recommending indictment because "no reasonable prosecutor would take the case". I interpret that to mean the corruption is so deep that no one is willing to take on the Clintons.
That is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard. Director Comey was very clear that "no charges are appropriate in this case." "In looking back into our investigations into the mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts," Comey said. "All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of information exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here." IP: Logged |
Delilah423
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posted August 04, 2016 02:13 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
One can only wonder what they did to get poor Sanders to say he supports her.
I've followed Bernie Sanders for years. And I take him at his word. It's a no-brainer for him just as it is for me: in a choice between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the only rational choice is Clinton.
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Randall
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posted August 04, 2016 02:26 AM
All prior cases did involve intentional or willful acts; however, this is a gross negligence statute. Intent isn't required. And he knew that. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted August 04, 2016 02:46 AM
I disagree. Sanders should have stuck to his principles and said nothing and went home a hero. Instead, he got booed by his supporters. He sold out. Or he should have retracted and reneged on his support once he saw how the DNC was rigged against him from the emails and the disgusting things they said about him in them. IP: Logged |
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