posted September 11, 2016 06:29 PM            

I had pneumonia recently .. my energy was drained for a couple of weeks before i actually went to the docs and got an antibiotic...and needed 5 days of pretty serious rest to bounce back.

posted September 12, 2016 12:13 PM            

Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign just made a massive error. We'll know within the next few weeks if the error will prove to be catastrophic.

On Sunday, Clinton abruptly left a Manhattan ceremony marking the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. A video shows her shakily stumbling while trying to get into a van to leave. The candidate's physician later offered this explanation: Clinton has had an allergy-related cough for some time, and during an examination on Friday, the Democratic nominee was diagnosed with pneumonia, put on antibiotics, and told to take time out to rest. She became overheated and dehydrated during Sunday morning's event, which led her to collapse. She's now home in Chappaqua and on the road to recovery.

Compare this timeline to details from Hillary Clinton's public schedule and behavior over these same two days.

After Clinton was diagnosed with pneumonia and put on antibiotics, she did not, as her physician recommended, take time out to rest. Instead, she attended a fundraiser featuring Barbra Streisand. Then on Sunday morning, she attended the 9/11 commemoration, became "overheated," and woozily wobbled rather dramatically. Ninety minutes later she exited her daughter Chelsea's apartment building to tell the press she was "feeling great." The Secret Service permitted a young girl to come over to give the candidate a hug.

It was only a few hours later when her campaign finally announced that she has pneumonia and is recovering.

The most charitable reading of this timeline is that her campaign — presumably with the blessing and perhaps insistence of the candidate — fully intended to keep her illness a secret from the public. Let's be clear about what this means: Her campaign intended to lie. Even though doing so would require her to keep up a public schedule that might well make her condition worse and require ever-more elaborate forms of concealment. Because, of course, to curtail her schedule would raise questions that might reveal the truth.

So even after she collapsed, the campaign decided the ruse would continue. It arranged for the candidate to make her curbside declaration of wellness, even bringing on the girl to give her a "spontaneous" hug. (Clinton's protection detail would never have permitted a genuinely spontaneous embrace on the street, even by a child.)

It's easy to understand why the Clinton campaign would want to keep this kind of news a secret. The candidate doesn't trust the media. The right has been hitting her over supposed health issues for months (and even years), and the assault has picked up in intensity over the past week or so — since Clinton found herself in the midst of an extended coughing fit at a campaign event in Cleveland. Then there's the gender dynamic. Donald Trump presents himself as a hyper-masculine tough guy, while Clinton is the first female presidential nominee. The Clinton camp is probably twice as terrified of their candidate looking frail as a less path-breaking campaign would be.

So the campaign chose to lie. The potential reward was considerable: namely, an absence of politically damaging news stories about Clinton's medical condition. But the risk was enormous — and it's blown up in their faces. Because now the story isn't just that Clinton is ill. It's that, once again, she's untrustworthy — and this time about her own health.

That's why the announcement that she has pneumonia will only fuel more speculation about Clinton's physical condition, with potentially no end in sight. The world saw her collapse, and 90 minutes later, the candidate looked America in the eye and proclaimed that she was feeling great. Except now we know that she wasn't.

Not long after this charade, someone on the campaign staff made the call to come clean. But it may well have been too late.

The best the campaign can hope for now is that Clinton recovers quickly and soon looks healthy in her public appearances. Then maybe the topic will recede into the background of the campaign. The candidate got sick, but then she got better. End of story.

But if she doesn't recover quickly? If she appears weak and frail for more than a few days? Then, yes, she'll face perfectly reasonable questions about whether she's physically up to serving as president. But worse, she'll confront lingering doubts about what, precisely, is ailing her. "It's pneumonia," the campaign will proclaim over and over again. To which a skeptical America will justifiably reply, "Yes, we can tell that you'd like us to think so. But we have no reason to trust that's true."

Political trust is a fragile thing. Once it's gone, it's exceedingly difficult to get back — and without it, there's no basis on which to dismiss conspiracy theories that even normally level-headed observers will begin, for perfectly understandable reasons, to entertain.

posted September 12, 2016 08:33 PM            

You know, closer to the date there will be an announcement that Hillary is too sick to continue, there will be a public "debate" organised to call for Obama to save the day, movie stars and pop music slaves will join in.. then Obama will rise up to the occasion and suspend the election in the name of democracy and out of his love for American people, and - what the heck- from his love for America and what it stands for, and for hungry children, and for the sick, and for the soldiers blah blah blah, and because in his heart he knows he has to serve his country, he will agree to stay on for "as long as its needed" to organise a new presidential race, which in his language means - indefinitely.

Meanwhile citizen rights are being taken away one by one and no one is noticing because of this farce of a race.

posted September 12, 2016 09:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I don't care for HRC.. but it takes a vendetta to post a "news" story about her collapsing when she is barely visible. Ever misstepped walking off a city kerb? Maybe she does have an issue, maybe her antiallergy antihistamines got the best of her, maybe the guy who went down first pulled her with him... it takes spite and motive to call this a COLLAPSE especially since she was obviously fine shortly afterwards

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posted September 13, 2016 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
I don't care for HRC.. but it takes a vendetta to post a "news" story about her collapsing when she is barely visible. Ever misstepped walking off a city kerb? Maybe she does have an issue, maybe her antiallergy antihistamines got the best of her, maybe the guy who went down first pulled her with him... it takes spite and motive to call this a COLLAPSE especially since she was obviously fine shortly afterwards

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posted September 13, 2016 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Anyone notice that the "Hillary" who went to visit Chelsea was a "body double"?

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I knew this was gonna get good!

posted September 13, 2016 07:55 AM            

1.Preparation — Having clear goals and knowing the ideal position you want people to hold.
2.Credibility — Make sure all of your information is consistent, often using prejudices or expectations to increase credibility.
3.Multichannel support — Have multiple arguments and fabricated facts to reinforce your information.
4.Centralized control — Employing entities such as propaganda ministries or bureaus.
5.Security — The nature of the deception campaign is known by few.
6.Flexibility — The deception campaign adapts and changes over time as needs change.
7.Coordination — The organization or propaganda ministry is organized in a hierarchical pattern in order to maintain consistent and synchronized distribution of information.
8.Concealment — Contradicting information is destroyed.
9.Untruthful statements — Fabricate the truth.

Both parties have followed this path to disgust.

posted September 13, 2016 10:30 AM            

Like a lame wildebeest on the Serengeti, Hillary Clinton’s illness is attracting the attention of those who see opportunity. Make no mistake, the Clintons, for all the superficial unity the Democrats bludgeon each other into, have sparked a lot of resentment and made a lot of enemies over the years.

On top of that, there is a legitimate case to be made that the specter of losing to Trump is scary enough that For The Good Of The Party the DNC should meet in private and dump her.

Yesterday, it was the Morning Of The Long Knives.

Cokie Roberts spread the word to NPR listeners (a Venn diagram of Democrat contributors and NPR contributors would show a lot of overlap, I’d wager).

It’s taking her off of the campaign trail,” said Roberts Monday morning, indicating that the pneumonia has forced Clinton to cancel her upcoming trip to California. But as for members of the Democratic party, “It has them very nervously beginning to whisper about her stepping aside and finding another candidate.”

Keep in mind Roberts is Democrat aristocracy in a party that worships dynasties, the daughter of two powerful House of Representatives Members Her father, Majority Leader of the House when he died in a plane crash, was first elected to the House half a century before Bill Clinton ran for national office. Her mother took over the seat.

To a certain kind of influential Democrat, Cokie speaks for much more than herself.

The other knife unsheathed came from David Axelrod, the red diaper baby whose major role in the rise of Barack Obama from obscurity to the presidency is poorly appreciated.

"David Axelrod
✔ ý@davidaxelrod
Antibiotics can take care of pneumonia. What's the cure for an unhealthy penchant for privacy that repeatedly creates unnecessary problems?"
8:20 AM - 12 Sep 2016

An “unhealthy penchant for privacy” is an incurable disease, Axelrod is implying. Hillary’s illness is, in the words of fellow Chicago pol Rahm Emanual, a crisis that should not go to waste.

Nobody is going to say it out loud, but the real message is that Hillary is blowing it, and it is time to convene the DNC and pull out all the knives.

The best response the Brooklyn Brain Trust could come up with was lame:

"Jennifer Palmieri ý@jmpalmieri
We could have done better yesterday, but it is a fact that public knows more about HRC than any nominee in history. https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/775308081794199552 …
9:53 AM - 12 Sep 2016

Then another party elder chimed in, just in case:

“Now is the time for all good political leaders to come to the aid of their party,” said Don Fowler, who helmed the DNC from 1995 to 1997, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, and has backed Hillary Clinton since her 2008 presidential bid. “I think the plan should be developed by 6 o’clock this afternoon.”

It’s nothing personal, Hillary. Just business.

Fowler said he expects Clinton to fully recover from her bout with pneumonia, which forced her to leave a Sept. 11 memorial event early and cancel an early-week fundraising swing. But he said the Democratic Party would be mistaken to proceed without a contingency plan. The party's existing rules empower the DNC to name a replacement candidate but include few guidelines or parameters.

“It’s something you would be a fool not to prepare for,” he said in an interview on Monday. He added a note of caution, should Clinton attempt an expeditious return to the campaign trail.

“She better get well before she gets back out there because if she gets back out there too soon, it might happen again,” he said.

posted September 13, 2016 01:17 PM            

Or Obama could suspend the election for time to work it out.

Either way, I suspect this snafu jeopardizes her run.

posted September 13, 2016 08:03 PM            

one circumstance would have to be a state of emergency...which he himself can declare by power of another executive order, cant recall No
But really, financial crises could be as good reason as any, natural disaster is another, etc etc
I'll say better watch markets closely.
It's not hard to engineer a market crises...takes one rouge broker ...

posted September 14, 2016 09:09 AM            

Want a real revolution in America? Just try that.