posted September 17, 2016 10:45 AM            

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Obama confronted her about being called a Muslim. She apologized,

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I have no reference rather true or false but do note your words "she apologised"

Did Trump apologise for all the ugly words on the birther issue?

I`m just flummoxed as to why these facts are being twisted.

Just own it and move on Trump and supporters.

posted September 17, 2016 11:04 AM            

Hillary has serious problems and yet you prefer to defend and try to support silly stories/deeds/lies trump dreams up.

posted September 17, 2016 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
What really puzzles me is you have real meat in Hillarys history to support your points, you back off it and go off to defend Trump in some wild distorted fashion.

Hillary has serious problems and yet you prefer to defend and try to support silly stories/deeds/lies trump dreams up.

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posted September 18, 2016 11:57 AM            

September 16, 2016
Reputations don’t recover from patterns of deceit.

Hillary Clinton affirmed a serious illness this week. It wasn’t bacterial pneumonia.

Bill Safire diagnosed the disease twenty years ago when he evaluated Hillary Clinton as a “congenital liar.”

After dismissing reports of her ill health as conspiracy theories for much of the summer, the Clinton campaign described the candidate as “overheated” after leaving a 9/11 memorial event on Sunday. MSNBC spun the abrupt departure as an act of politeness. Bizarrely calling high 70s/low 80s “horrific, very hot, extremely humid,” anchor Alex Witt maintained that Clinton “did not want to bring attention to herself… given the solemnity of the event.”

But video showed a slumping 68-year-old, struggling to stand, strongarmed into a van by people who earned the title “handlers.” Trevor Berbick walked on steadier legs after Mike Tyson clocked him.

Candidates recover from falls, literal and metaphorical. Reputations don’t recover from patterns of deceit.

She Brian Williamsed about landing in Bosnia under sniper fire. She Tommy Flanaganned saying she never fired the White House travel office to staff it with Arkansas cronies. She Baron Munchausenned about her parents naming her after Sir Edmund Hillary (he summited Everest years after her birth). She Joe Isuzued about the FBI exonerating her in regard to the accusation that she emailed classified information on a private server. One could go on with myriad Joe Bidens and Bernie Madoffs.

Such acts of deception help explain the Republican’s 15-point advantage in the “honest and trustworthy” category in a recent CNN poll. Donald Trump suffering from the opposite malady, loose-tongue syndrome — giving out a rival’s cell-phone number here, charging full-speed ahead against a family that lost a son to war there — explains the disparity as well. The very attribute that attracts some voters to Donald Trump repels other voters. This week, as an opportunity to kick his downed opponent arose, Trump rose to the occasion by biting his tongue. One can learn self-control at 70. Honesty at 68 comes as a hard habit to make.

Machiavelli noted, [b]“One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived.” The Machiavellian pol perpetually discovers the truth of the Clintonian philosopher’s take on lies. Partisans believe. But any candidate needs more than stalwarts to gain election. Clinton, who enjoyed double-digit leads in several polls last month, now sees herself in a dogfight. The truth catching up to her allowed Donald Trump to catch up to her.

Nobody not currently opposed to Hillary Clinton awards a vote to Donald Trump because the Democrat coughs too much. They withhold their vote because she lies too much. And this comes despite the fact that the electorate grasps that politicians constitute an especially mendacious bunch. They expect office seekers to kiss babies and lie and not much else. In hugging a child after lying about her illness, Hillary Clinton alienated voters she looked to satiate. Even the photo-ops say something about her character.

Health remains a private matter for most. But for one seeking the presidency, privacy often becomes secrecy. Hillary Clinton didn’t need to cover this up. Everyone has been sick. Why couldn’t she just come clean at some point and say, “I’m under the weather”?

posted September 18, 2016 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
jwop, are you going to admit that you were wrong about Flint? I can't help but notice that you ignored the evidence that proved you wrong, not once but twice.

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posted September 19, 2016 03:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The people who in the face of incontrovertible proof can't admit they were wrong about Trump mocking a reporter's disability want someone to admit he was wrong about something? How rich! It's not about truth with Democrats. It's always been about smearing Trump--the truth be damned--so their corrupt-to-the-bone unfit nominee can steal this election. This walking trainwreck has had 40 years to make change. And Obama has hurt the country and military in ways heretofore unseen by any president before him. Sorry, folks. Your 8 years are almost up. Step aside with some grace, while you still have some dignity left. Bye-bye Obamacare!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8JqT2atxD8

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Yeah because jwop cares about the truth? He obviously had no idea what he was talking about when it came to who was calling the shots in Flint. He immediately blamed Democrats. You and jwop are the ones that are so partisan that you are convinced every problem in the US is the fault of Democrats. jwop is conveniently ignoring factual information that was provided in the report.

And about the reporter...I responded in the other thread, but I'll add my response here too since it was mentioned.

I did watch this video. There is a difference in the way Trump flails his arm, and most importantly how he has his arm high up on his chest. He doesn't do that in the other videos.

Trump falsely claims that he had no idea that the guy was disabled, but that is not true.

Here are excerpts from a Washington Post article...

"Trump claims he did not know Kovaleski, but the reporter closely covered Trump’s troubled business dealings while he was a reporter for the N.Y. Daily News between 1987 and 1993."

“Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Kovaleski told the Times in November. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.” In particular, Kovaleski covered the launch of the Trump Shuttle, spending the day with Trump in 1989 when the airline launched with typical Trump brashness. (Within a year, Trump had to unload the debt-burdened airline because of a cash crunch in his business interests.)"

Trump has a history of lying rather than accepting responsibility for anything, so I don't believe his claims of not knowing the reporter was disabled. He even says "Now the poor guy. You gotta see this guy," right before he starts flailing his right hand over his chest, which just so happens to resemble the reporter's hand. I don't believe that is just a coincidence.

posted September 19, 2016 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Yeah because jwop cares about the truth? He obviously had no idea what he was talking about when it came to who was calling the shots in Flint. He immediately blamed Democrats. You and jwop are the ones that are so partisan that you are convinced every problem in the US is the fault of Democrats. jwop is conveniently ignoring factual information that was provided in the report.

And about the reporter...I responded in the other thread, but I'll add my response here too since it was mentioned.

I did watch this video. There is a difference in the way Trump flails his arm, and most importantly how he has his arm high up on his chest. He doesn't do that in the other videos.

Trump falsely claims that he had no idea that the guy was disabled, but that is not true.

Here are excerpts from a Washington Post article...

"Trump claims he did not know Kovaleski, but the reporter closely covered Trump’s troubled business dealings while he was a reporter for the N.Y. Daily News between 1987 and 1993."

“Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Kovaleski told the Times in November. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.” In particular, Kovaleski covered the launch of the Trump Shuttle, spending the day with Trump in 1989 when the airline launched with typical Trump brashness. (Within a year, Trump had to unload the debt-burdened airline because of a cash crunch in his business interests.)"

Trump has a history of lying rather than accepting responsibility for anything, so I don't believe his claims of not knowing the reporter was disabled. He even says "Now the poor guy. You gotta see this guy," right before he starts flailing his right hand over his chest, which just so happens to resemble the reporter's hand. I don't believe that is just a coincidence.

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posted September 19, 2016 09:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The lying leftist media loves taking things of context to try to substantiate their untruths. Like the Second Amendment comment and the Secret Service gun comment. They will stretch words so far they no longer remotely resemble their original context.

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His exact statements are quoted below. How exactly do you interpret them since you are convinced they were taken out of context and stretched?

"I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons. They should disarm, right, right? I think they should disarm immediately. What do you think, yes? Take their guns away, she doesn't want guns. Take their, let's see what happens. Take their guns away. Okay. It would be very dangerous."

"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know."

posted September 20, 2016 09:25 AM            

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder had anything to do with making the decision to switch Flint's source of water.

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder had any duty or responsibility for chipping in state money so Flint could keep their original water supply.

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder had any duty, responsibility for or authority to shut off Flint's polluted water supply and leave Flint residents and businesses without ANY water.

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder had any duty to station State EPA officials at Flint's water distribution center to check pollution levels Flint chemists and water engineers were supposed to be checking.

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder knew or should have known about Flint's water distribution system and it's lead pipes which would react with the chemical composition of the new water supply.

Probably...just as soon as you prove Snyder had a higher duty and responsibility for the health and welfare of Flint's citizens than the elected democrat Mayor, the democrat head of the federal EPA and the democrat in the executive branch of government they all report to.

I will admit that Snyder is a weak kneed wuss who should never have permitted democrats to dump all the responsibility for Flint's water pollution problems on him. He's a total disgrace and I have no problems throwing Snyder under the bus. But, let's apportion responsibility where it belongs and there's plenty of blame to go around.

Btw, stop making an Italian racial slur out of my user name. I'm not even Italian.

posted September 20, 2016 12:04 PM            

Second of all you obviously didn't read the report. The city of Flint has been run by state appointed managers since 2011, which were all hired by Gov Snyder and answered directly to him. They are the ones that made the decisions to switch to Flint River water, and not to switch back even after realizing how contaminated the water was. While General Motors was able to switch back to Lake Huron water within months because it was so corroded it was damaging their euipment.

The EPA was being given falsified tests by the Michingan Department of Environmental Quality, which was pre-flushing the lines prior to testing the water. The governor knew this, but did nothing. Once again, Flint's mayor and city council had absolutely no control over what was going on. All decisions and subsequent cover ups were done at a state level.

posted September 22, 2016 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Had you not been so adamant about Flint's poisoned water being the fault of Democrats, I wouldn't have bothered with posting all of this factual informaion. It just proves to me that you don't really care about facts, you only want to justify your partisan ideals.

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