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Randall
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This week America was subjected to a tape of Barack Obama flashing his erection to women on a plane. With a proud smile, he spread his legs, so the ladies could see the solid outline of his penis beneath his khakis.

It brought back a memory for me. A terrible one. When I was 16, I was working in a drug store behind a counter where we sold makeup, jewelry, and watches. A man came into the store. He was scraggly, thin, wearing a faded tan T-shirt and loose gray sweatpants. He was wearing a grin, too.

The man walked to the counter and beckoned me over. He asked to see one of the watches in the cabinet. I bent over and pulled out the watch. I handed it to him, and he looked at it for a moment.

He asked me for another, and I bent down again and retrieved it. He took it from my hands, his fingers leathery and his nails dirty. Clearing his throat with a phlegmy cough, he handed it back. He did this several more times, and I was getting frustrated by his repeated requests. Finally, I asked him if he wanted to purchase a watch.

Proud and roguish, he grinned, his watery eyes twinkling as if he knew something I didn’t. And he did.

“I don’t really want one,” he said in a scratchy voice from smoking too many cigarettes. I could smell them on him, like an old ashtray. “I just like watching you bend over so I can see down your shirt.”

He then stepped back and showed me his erection through his sweatpants. “They sure got a rise out of me. Bet you’ve never seen somethin’ like this?”

The heat of shame spread up my neck and across my cheeks. My heart pounded and my ears buzzed. I panicked. No one was in that part of the store because it was late and near closing time. I didn’t know what the man would do, and I was afraid.
Moments That Stay With You Forever

I backed away, shaking all over, and hurried along the counter to the back of the store. I glanced over my shoulder. He wasn’t following. He just stood there with his hand in his pocket.

I found the store manager and told him what had happened. He told me to stay in the pharmacy area while he made sure the man had left. After a few minutes, he came back and said the man was gone. I was still trembling when he walked me to my car to make sure I was safe. As I started the car, the manager told me I should be careful how I dressed from then on. That only added to my shame.

That moment has lived with me all my life. So has another. It involved a car salesman when I was in my twenties. He was one of my accounts when I was an advertising salesperson for the Augusta Chronicle. He welcomed me in his office and shut the door, asked me to sit down, then walked up behind me, put his hands on my shoulders, and reached down and grabbed my breasts.

I bolted from the room, slamming the door behind me. I didn’t report it. I didn’t tell my boss. I shared what happened with a male co-worker, and he told me not to say anything because it might affect my job; he said he’d take over my account so I wouldn’t have to see the man again.

I don’t know if I’m merely unlucky or what, but I wish I could say these were the only incidents like this in my life. They weren’t. There was another, and all I’ll say about that is a woman never really knows how strong a man is, how helpless she can be, until she is beneath him, unable to break free.
How Do We Know Who Is Telling the Truth

Why am I telling you this? I’m sure you can guess. There’s a lot of talk about sexism and sexual assault recently because of tapes released about Donald Trump and several women who have never spoken before—some in more than 30 years—telling their stories of how he sexually assaulted them.

I don’t know whether their stories are true. If he’s guilty and found to be so in a court of law, then I hope he’s punished. I do wonder, however, why his accusers never mentioned these things when NBC hired Trump to be on national television. I wonder why they never mentioned it when he stepped into politics years ago. I wonder why they never mentioned it during the primaries. I wonder why they never mentioned it until October, just before the election.

Was it just because they felt some freedom to do so because of the “Access Hollywood” tape? Maybe, but the timing still seems odd to me. It all seems so—how shall I put it—choreographed.

But who am I to accuse possible assault victims of lying or playing political games? I don’t know their motives or the truth of their stories. I will say that having been a victim of unwanted sexual advances and assault, I do have a sense of when women are telling the truth about such matters.

I also have a keen sensitivity to the hypocrisy of those who say they care deeply about women who have suffered in this way—hypocrites like Michelle Obama. Honestly, I don’t know who’s worse. A man who sexually abuses a woman, or a woman who uses another woman who has been sexually abused, creating another layer of abuse. Part of me says it’s the latter.
Why the Selective Emotion?

Last week, Michelle gave a speech in which she said she feels the pain of sexual assault victims “so personally.” Like the fine actress she is, her voice trembled. “I can’t stop thinking about this,” she said. “It has shaken me to my core in a way that I couldn’t have predicted.”

So while I’d love nothing more than to pretend like this isn’t happening, and to come out here and do my normal campaign speech, it would be dishonest and disingenuous to me to just move on to the next thing like this was all just a bad dream.

But Michelle Obama is being dishonest and disingenuous. She supports a woman who has viciously attacked women who say they were the victims of her husband’s sexual deviancy. They are no different than the women coming forward now, except their stories have stood the test of time, and have been corroborated. Yet they get no sympathy from Michelle and Hillary, only scorn and ridicule.

Worse, Michelle proves her disingenuousness by having supported a man who was not only sexually immoral but played a part in a woman’s death. In 1969, U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy left a party late one evening with 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne. Kennedy drove the car instead of his chauffeur so he could be alone with the young woman. As he was driving down the dark road, he made a wrong turn and drove the car off a bridge into the tide-swept water below.

Kennedy made it out and swam to shore. Kopechne didn’t. He never called the police that night, and instead slinked back to his hotel room. The young woman died of suffocation when the air-pocket she was in ran out of oxygen. If he had done what was right, she might be alive today.

Despite this history, Michelle and her husband embraced the senator, benefitting from his political support. She never felt any personal grief over Mary Jo Kopechne. She never shuddered when Kennedy put his arm around her as they celebrated political victories together.

The same is true for the alleged victims of Bill Clinton. Michelle apparently never felt shaken by what happened to Juanita Broaddrick, who testified that Clinton attacked her, biting her lip to keep her quiet, then pushing her onto a bed and raping her. Michelle has expressed no empathy for her, even though there were witnesses to Broaddrick’s injuries.

Michelle never claims to have trembled for Paula Jones, who said Clinton pulled her “over like he has done this a million times and grabs me and pulls me over to him to the windowsill and tries to kiss me.” He then dropped his pants.

Then he started — he pulled me over to him while he was leaning up against the wingback chair and he took his hands and was running them up my culottes. And they were long. They were down to my knees. They were long, dressy culottes. And he had his hand up, going up to my middle pelvic area, and he was kissing me on the neck, you know, and trying to kiss me on the lips and I wouldn’t let him. And then I backed back. I said, ‘Stop it. You know, I’m not this kind of girl.’

Where is Michelle’s outrage for Jones? Why does she support the Clintons, who have maligned this woman for years? Does she tremble at the thought of it? Has it shaken her to her core?

Where is Michelle’s disgust for her husband’s indecent exposure—a criminal act? Unlike Trump, he’s caught on tape actually committing the crime! Despite the giggles of the women on the plane, is this not a sexual violation? At the very least it’s a sexual perversion.

My president should be nothing like the man who stood before me all those years ago in saggy sweatpants, with an erection and a wicked grin, filling me with panic and shame. Seeing the video of Obama on that plane brought back that moment and those feelings for me, making me relive it all over again. Does Michelle tremble for me?
Pretending to Care about Victims Is Merely Manipulation

So what about Trump? Can a woman like me, who knows firsthand what it’s like to be sexually abused by a man, vote for him? I’m one of the women Michelle says she feels for. She says she understands my pain.

The truth is, she knows nothing of my feelings, my pain, or my shame. Her words are full of manipulation, using women who have suffered for her own purposes. In a way, she’s no different from the predatorial men who use women like objects to feed their own lusts. For Michelle—and Hillary—it’s lust for power, and they’ll use anyone to get it—even women like me.
Her words are full of manipulation, using women who have suffered for her own purposes.

While many are praising Michelle for her speech and shaming of Trump, her words left me empty and cold. She spoke no comfort to me. They only reminded me of how evil people can be when they use others’ vulnerability for their own gain.

So what do I do? Can I vote for a man like Trump? He’s obviously sexually immoral, although I have no actual proof he has committed a crime—and, no, bragging about something is not proof of actually doing it. Having experienced actual sexual assault, I take it seriously. I know what it looks like and what it doesn’t.

That doesn’t mean Trump is innocent. I don’t know what he has done. None of us do. He might have sexually assaulted those women, but maybe not. Maybe if all these allegations had surfaced sooner, we could distinguish truth from lies with real, unbiased investigation. But these tapes and testimonies have only now come to light. That alone makes me suspicious.

So all I can do is vote according to what I actually know and from the choices before me—and there are really only two. I know Hillary Clinton’s policies aren’t what’s best for this country, and I know she doesn’t care one bit about women. She and Michelle are just alike. They’re users, capitalizing on the pain of others for their own selfish ends.
Hillary Clinton Is No Friend of Women

Hillary’s policies are bad for women, as they rob us of independence and dignity. Big government is no friend to women, and abortion is a violent assault on women’s bodies and hearts. It’s not a right, it’s a lie.

Another Clinton administration will most certainly usher in darker days for American women.

Open immigration, and Hillary’s tolerance of Islamic patriarchy and her blindness to the evils of jihad, is a threat to women in this country. Just look at Europe—the increase in rapes from “refugees”—and the Middle East, where women and little girls are raped, mutilated, and killed. Hillary’s policies would bring that to America, putting women here at risk.

Hillary’s plan to use executive orders for gun control is a direct attack on women. We are the weaker sex, physically speaking. We need to be able to defend ourselves. Our country’s Founders gave us the right to that defense. The Second Amendment protects everyone, but mostly the weak and the vulnerable—that includes women. Taking away my right to a gun leaves me exposed to the violence and cruelty of those who want to rob me of my life, property, and dignity.

Trump stands opposed to these threats. Will he hold to his promises, to the policies he says he supports? I don’t know. But I do know that another Clinton administration will most certainly usher in darker days for American women.

Trump, therefore, is my only option at this point to stop the Clintons and the Democratic Party, to put an end to their corruption, sexism, and political agenda that will make women less safe, less prosperous, and less free. Do I deserve to be called indecent or a coward because I support Trump? Is it right for others to double my shame by using me and my pain for their own political purposes?

As a woman who has been at the mercy of those who are stronger and more powerful, I refuse to elect a candidate whose oppressive ideology puts women at risk, reduces them to dependants on the state, and uses them as pawns in her personal quest for power.

Is Trump the same? I don’t know. I don’t have proof of that. I do know the party he represents is not hostile to women, but supports policies that protect them and honor their dignity and rights. That’s not true of the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton. Given her history—a history replete with sexism and policies that assault women—I refuse to let her lies and the false sympathies of Michelle Obama become the standard by which I choose the next president.

Denise C. McAllister is a journalist based in Charlotte, North Carolina, and a senior contributor to The Federalist. Follow her on Twitter @McAllisterDen.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/17/im-sexual-assault-victim-still-supports-trump/?ref=yfp

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posted October 17, 2016 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This week America was subjected to a tape of Barack Obama flashing his erection to women on a plane. With a proud smile, he spread his legs, so the ladies could see the solid outline of his penis beneath his khakis.

WTH is that?? Have you seen this tape ?

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posted October 17, 2016 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
N/M, this is what I thought.

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Claim: President Obama was captured flaunting his erection to female reporters in a 2008 video.

unproven

Origin:Staunch supporters of Donald Trump spent the first half of October 2016 attempting to deflect criticism of the Republican presidential nominee after a 2005 video surfaced capturing him making lewd and offensive comments about women. One of the strategies they emmployed was to downplay Trump's comments by asserting that most men engaged in such "locker room talk" and accusing Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama of having said worse things.

For example, a misleading WikiLeaks e-mail was circulated with the claim that it documented Hillary Clinton's using the term "sand niggers" to refer to Mulisms, and an out-of-context video of President Obama using the word "***** " was passed around on social media.

On 12 October 2016, the web site Grabien News took this defense to another level, claiming that a 2008 video showed President Obama behaving "just as salaciously" as Trump had done in the 2005 video:


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It should also be noted that this video has been circulating since at least 2008, when it was used to smear then-Senator Obama during his first presidential campaign.

rest here http://www.snopes.com/presidential-erection/


How about some real news.

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posted October 17, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about you actually read the article and not my headline? The meat of the article has nothing to do Obama's.

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posted October 17, 2016 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because I don`t read many bait and switch articles. Especially when I know going into it, the bias behind it.

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posted October 17, 2016 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Snopes counters most of the "news" being posted in GU lately. I just don't see a point in sharing it, because the only people who seem to believe it are those who want to believe it. What's ironic is people who believe the garbage of late talk about how gullible others are in believing what they read and see in the media.

ETA: I think it's time I go back to ignoring this forum again.

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posted October 17, 2016 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ

I don't care.

Why is this even relevant to anything?

I don't get it.

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posted October 17, 2016 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Trump has been accused of is so much worse than this. Men get inconvenient erections all the time and it's more of an embarrassment and problem than automatic indiscretion. Here I think Obama was just laughing at himself instead of hiding it. Inappropriate, but raunchy humor might be part of that circle and understood within their private context.

Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of sexual assault, which is never alright.

To even compare the two shows that people have no idea how horrible it is being sexually assaulted. It's not a light matter, or a lewd joke, like Obama's flash was.

Oh and by the way I am not a Hillary supporter. Or an Obama supporter. I'm just saying what I think.

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posted October 17, 2016 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Where is Michelle’s disgust for her husband’s indecent exposure—a criminal act? Unlike Trump, he’s caught on tape actually committing the crime! Despite the giggles of the women on the plane, is this not a sexual violation? At the very least it’s a sexual perversion.

So if it's cold and a woman's nipples stick out (sorry to be graphic) is it a crime if she doesn't cover them?

What if she knows the guys, doesn't have a sweater handy, decides to uncross her arms, and they all just laugh about it?

Was a crime committed there?

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posted October 18, 2016 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The article isn't about Obama's erection. It was just mentioned in passing.

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posted October 18, 2016 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why did you title the thread that way, if it wasn't about that?

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posted October 18, 2016 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, because no one wants to see it. But I thought people would at least read it before commenting blindly.

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posted October 18, 2016 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I did read it.

What point did you want us to take away from it?

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posted October 18, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The takeaway is that a Hillary presidency will herald in a dark time for women, according to the author.

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posted October 18, 2016 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The takeaway is that a Hillary presidency will herald in a dark time for women, according to the author.

Oh

Women will usher in darkness for women?

Not the guys themselves who did the assaulting and flashing?

Odd twist there....

Well it would be interesting if the numbers of women murdered by crazy men went down if more guns were banned. Since most women choose NOT to carry guns and even if they do, usually don't have them on hand at the time of a crime. (How often do we hear of women defending themselves from attackers, with guns? Honest question.)

It would also be interesting to see how the female refugees we took in felt about their adoption into this country.

I don't know the future. I don't trust Hillary OR Trump though....both corrupt.

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posted October 20, 2016 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The takeaway is that a Hillary presidency will herald in a dark time for women, according to the author.

Well, that's funny because I definitely thought that about Trump. Cuz, you know, he's sexist (and not even concerned about showing it).

I mean I think the whole of democracy is screwed anyway. But at least if Hillary wins, it will be a step forward for women.. That's all I can say. Haha

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posted October 20, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, the woman who accepted millions from countries that subjugate women cares about them.

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posted October 20, 2016 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pretty obvious that neither of the two care about anyone but themselves.. But yes, I would have to say that having a woman in power is a step forward for women.

**While actively subscribing to this system is a step backwards for everybody**

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Snopes counters most of the "news" being posted in GU lately. I just don't see a point in sharing it, because the only people who seem to believe it are those who want to believe it. What's ironic is people who believe the garbage of late talk about how gullible others are in believing what they read and see in the media.

ETA: I think it's time I go back to ignoring this forum again.


Lol, yes. The irony is too good. Randall and jhwop, why are you parroting so many lies from clickbait articles and fear mongering media drivel?

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Originally posted by Selenite:
It's pretty obvious that neither of the two care about anyone but themselves.. But yes, I would have to say that having a woman in power is a step forward for women.

**While actively subscribing to this system is a step backwards for everybody**


Exactly

Eventually a woman is going to have to be President. It's long overdue.

I just didn't want HER to be the first.

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posted October 26, 2016 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this were Trump flaunting his erect penis, I'm sure none of you would be defending it.

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posted October 26, 2016 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sigh, it was debunked.

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posted October 26, 2016 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
If this were Trump flaunting his erect penis, I'm sure none of you would be defending it.

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posted October 26, 2016 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If this were Trump flaunting his erect penis, I'm sure none of you would be defending it.

Trump's completely sleazy and it would mean something different coming from him.

No one thinks of Obama as sleazy.

#Context

@Juni

Where was it debunked?

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posted October 26, 2016 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not for Hillary OR Trump, I am non-partisan.

Funny, Randall, that you who are so partisan that you see all Dem sexual misbehavior as something to attack, and all Republican sexual behavior as something to defend and dismiss, would accuse anyone else of bias.

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