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jwhop
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posted October 30, 2016 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, we heard way back in July that the FBI wasn't recommending an indictment for Hillary The Corrupt. After laying a solid case for indictment and prosecution, Comey cited "intent"..lack of intent, on Hillary's part to break the law as the reason for no recommendation for indictment. Everyone knew the fix was in.

Now, suddenly Comey has found "new evidence" and announced that fact on Friday, Oct 28th in a letter to congressional committees.

This is what I think is happening.

The Establishment and there's only one Establishment in America, tried at every turn to derail Trump. They threw everything in their arsenal at Trump starting in the Republican Primary race and continuing to TODAY with phony polls, both state and national polls to make it appear Hillary is winning. The "Bandwagon Effect". Democrat and Republican Establishment elites, along with their propaganda arm, the Main Stream Media are scared spitless of Trump. He threatens their power, their wealth, their positions, their agenda and down the road, their reelections.

These elitists, the Establishment, have come to the conclusion Trump is going to win. A win big enough to be called a mandate to fix the problems Trump has talked about and campaigned on for the last 18 months.

But, what if these Establishment elitists could claim Trump only won because Hillary's campaign collapsed..because of leaked campaign emails and a cloud of Federal Investigations? No mandate for change!

Then, they think they could attempt to thwart Trump's agenda by obstruction in the Congress with the press piling on...and get away with it.

We're going to find out what this is all about in 9 days! We've been told this is a close race with the electoral edge going to Hillary Clinton. For months, they've told everyone Trump is going to lose. That Hillary has an 88% probability of winning.

I could be wrong, about the timing of Comey's change of heart. I could be wrong about the general trend of the election. I could be wrong about the Establishment writing Hillary off as a lost cause and manufacturing a plausible excuse for her loss. I could be wrong about Trump winning a large percent of the presidential vote.

But I don't think so.

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iQ
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posted October 31, 2016 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Latest polls are showing just one percent difference. The FBI move has worked in Trumps's favor. Your hypothesis could be correct.

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juniperb
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posted October 31, 2016 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He would need about all the 111 electoral toss ups.

Clinton/Kaine
263
Toss Ups
111
Trump/Pence
164

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Randall
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posted October 31, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, that's based on faulty data not accounting for the silent Trump votersr, which are going to turn the electoral map on its head!

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pire
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posted October 31, 2016 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no doubt that hillary will be elected. This ain't wishful thinking, just the conviction that the campaign has showed enough evidence of the misogyn, dangerously unpredictable demagogue that the billionaire trying to look like the voice of the people , aka donald trump, really is.

What this election shows to the rest of the world, with the popularity of trump, is the banality of the US.

Sad for US influence

Make america great again ! Too bad donald you tarnished US image abroad among open, modern people, but make it likeable for retrograde, nationalist folks all around the world.

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teasel
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posted October 31, 2016 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The OP is really putting the cart before the horse. She hasn't lost - we don't vote until next Tuesday.

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jwhop
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posted October 31, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He would need about all the 111 electoral toss ups.
Clinton/Kaine
263
Toss Ups
111
Trump/Pence
164"

The electoral counts you cite are a product of POLLS showing Hillary ahead in certain states where she's not ahead at all. Oversampling democrats while undersampling republicans skew poll results which skews the electoral map.

You also wouldn't want to forget about Hillary's campaign interfering with polling companies by telling them to oversample women, minorities and young voters and to run polls in areas of heavy democrat registrations.."so as to maximize poll results for Hillary".

WikiLeaks produced the Hillary campaign email directing polling organizations what to do..."to maximize poll results for Hillary". What do you think they're talking about when they say..."OVERSAMPLE"?


http://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551

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juniperb
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posted October 31, 2016 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ that email was dated 2008.

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jwhop
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posted October 31, 2016 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's also the current Clinton campaign game plan. Using corrupt national news media polls to overstate Clinton's polling numbers to discourage the opposition...and their voters. But, it's not working this time around.

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jwhop
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posted October 31, 2016 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm!

October 30, 2016
What if Hillary and the Establishment can't steal the election?
Scott Mayer

There are a multitude of theories going around as to why the FBI reopened the Hillary email case just eleven days before the election. I have my own.

I would have thought all of the new information revealed by WikiLeaks would have been enough to see Hillary's case reopened, but that just didn't seem to do it. It took a set of emails supposedly obtained during the Anthony Weiner investigation to move that mountain. What are contained in these new emails that aren't in the Podesta emails released by WikiLeaks? Is there some new bombshell? Or could it be that because the public doesn't know what they contain, these emails are useful for purely political purposes? But to what end?

What if it's because they think Donald Trump is about to win the election, and not just win, but win big? We know (confirmed by WikiLeaks and Project Veritas) that the DNC, media, and pollsters are doing their best to rig the election for Hillary. But their tireless efforts don't appear to be working. Just look at the enthusiasm and size of the Trump rallies versus Hillary's. Combine what is easily seen with the large numbers of people we're told are silently supporting Trump and others who are registering to vote for the first time (to vote for Trump), and it is possible that there could be a big surprise come election day.

So what (for the establishment) could possibly be worse than a Trump presidency? I think it would be a Trump presidency with a clear mandate. Democrats are already crying foul about the timing of this investigation. Without any bombshell details, though, it will unlikely change many minds at this point. But that certainly wouldn't be the narrative if Trump were to win and win big. The existence of this last-minute "partisan" investigation would be used to delegitimize Trump's presidency by claiming that the election was stolen or that he lacks a true mandate of the people.

Perhaps the reason for this surprise "investigation" (one that could end as the last one did following the election) is simply that Hillary and the establishment have conceded that they will be unable to steal this election and have moved on to the next best thing: attempting to steal Trump's mandate.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/10/what_if_hillary_and_the_establishment_cant_steal_the_election.html

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Novabronte
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posted November 01, 2016 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
I have no doubt that hillary will be elected. This ain't wishful thinking, just the conviction that the campaign has showed enough evidence of the misogyn, dangerously unpredictable demagogue that the billionaire trying to look like the voice of the people , aka donald trump, really is.

What this election shows to the rest of the world, with the popularity of trump, is the banality of the US.

Sad for US influence

Make america great again ! Too bad donald you tarnished US image abroad among open, modern people, but make it likeable for retrograde, nationalist folks all around the world.


Retrograde, nationalist folks ?
You must have had a brain lobotomy or you're a socialist Hollande affectionado. No wonder you like Clinton.

Perhaps you need a dictionary lesson:

a nationalist (noun) - a person who advocates political and economic independence for a country.

Do you know what the word independence means ?
Independence - freedom from being governed or ruled by another country

Do you mean this does not go well with your open, modern views ? Which are exactly what ? No borders and one global government aka NWO ?

Stop spreading your french socialist 'modern' crap like the disease it is and start solving your own growing problems with immigrant rapists, before this cancer spreads on the rest of the EU and we will be forced to erect more wire fences and chinese walls.

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etherealsaturn
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posted November 01, 2016 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Exactly what Novabronte said.

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