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pire
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posted November 13, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall
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posted November 13, 2016 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right. That's why all but a handful of our members are liberal. Free expression means everyone gets their say. Everyone also includes the very tiny minority here. Do you feel censored?

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pire
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posted November 14, 2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Right. That's why all but a handful of our members are liberal.

1- how do you know ? can you back it up ?

2- besides, if I judge only the involvements in GU 2.0 almost all threads are started by you or jwhop. there is a imbalance of threads against liberals, which shows that they don't feel safe, or just useful to post here anymore. but whatever the reason, the atmosphere in GU is definitely against liberal views.

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Free expression means everyone gets their say.

1-I am not complaining about the lack of freedom of expression here, but the real difficulty one has to come up with a point of view that disagrees with your and especially jwhop's views without being belittled, insulted, ridiculed, etc... this I swear would not happen if this old man was saying this in front of me. I don't want to have my views accepted but respected. he can't do that and "liberals", in fact everyone who doesn't follow his ideas, should suffer from it here. that has nothing to do with freedom of expression. freedom of expression isn't the issue in GU. what is the issue is fairness in the treatment of other point oviews. like the lack of fairness in the treatment of trump in mainstream medias that you denounce.

therefore GU is biased as the mainstream media are biased too.

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Everyone also includes the very tiny minority here.

tiny minority here ? not if I judge by the number of threads. seriously nobody fair would say that GU is the den of liberals.


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Do you feel censored?

1- no I don't feel censored. I have said many times the respect I have for you for having created a place such as this one, and making it THE global crossroad that it is, for people interested in esoteric knowledge from all four corners of the world to meet and enrich themselves and sometimes find a new breath of life. I never feeled censored in LL's other forum, because everyone there seems to be animated by inner wisdom and a higher level of "conciousness". but GU is different and if LL was a body, the GU would definitely be the end of the digestive system.

(on a side note, jwhop often complains that outsider from the US get involved in the US politics her in GU but, he can do the same with regard to other countries politics, if he has enough knowledge of it,
and he must understand that LL is what it is bexuase people come from every corners of the world, and it would be different if it was only people from within the US that were members. LL is global, making it what it is. and it's a good news.

2-free expression isn't free right to belitlle, disrespect, mock, insult ...etc... that makes this place really difficult if we disagree. so no, everyone here in GU doesn't have FULLY the freedom of expressing his views, but censorship here no, it isn't censorship the problem here, but selfcensorship to avoid being hurt for expressing our ideas.

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Astro keen
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posted November 14, 2016 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There appear to be no boundaries to the abuse that Jwhop can spit on these pages - which is well outside the bounds of decency. By not taking action it seems to say you approve, Randall.

Some choice terms Jwhop used in a thread today:

"....more brain dead drivel from a European Pygmy intellect.....Says the brain dead moron ...
I'm sure glad you're not in America. We have enough lame brained moron leftists we're trying hard to get rid of....

Why don't you concentrate on your own problems before you reach out to extend the scope of your stupidity?

... I'll happily rub your little leftist nose in the hot steaming piles leftist morons have created for citizens of Europe....."

This can hardly be regarded as free expression, if free expression is meant to foster an exchange of views. My immediate reaction was to boycott LL not just GU.

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PixieJane
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posted November 14, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently was involved in some rational conversations about politics, and this included a guy who voted for Trump, by the way (and I found his viewpoint clear and interesting, though we've known each other almost our entire lives and thus don't define each other by who we vote for), and that spurred me on to participate here again. But that's not something that will be found in Global Unity.

Randall, you should rename this forum the USA Partisan Mosh Pit as it fits more than Global Unity does, and has for years. (This sums it up.)

I hope I remember not to come back here again this time.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 14, 2016 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
My immediate reaction was to boycott LL not just GU.

I'm nearly there, myself.

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teasel
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posted November 14, 2016 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
I'm nearly there, myself.

I'm pretty much there, too.

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Randall
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posted November 14, 2016 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That video is hilarious! I laughed out loud! Sadly, there is much truth to it, Pixie.

If you guys want to be deleted to make it easier for you to stay away, I totally understand. This has been a very polarizing election.

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posted November 15, 2016 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Insults have been slung on both sides. It's not that I approve. I allow for a wider latitude, since politics can get heated, but there are limits--like in the thread Juni closed. Physical violence crosses the line, and it wasn't just one person guilty of that.

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posted November 15, 2016 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"this I swear would not happen if this old man was saying this in front of me"

Hey pire, there was another person here who made the very same mistake you just made.

I had Randall send him my address...my real address. People who are all mouth and no action, like he was and like you undoubtedly are, suddenly find they have very important business somewhere else.

So pire, knock off the bullshiite. I would very happily tell you what I think of you, face to face...and of the leftist loon thug rioters you support with your nonsense.

Got it pire?

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posted November 15, 2016 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the number of threads started by Jwhop or myself (which is not "almost all" of them) well, anyone could start new threads if they wanted to.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 15, 2016 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
If you guys want to be deleted to make it easier for you to stay away, I totally understand.

I guess you're back to threatening to ban people when they disagree with you.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 15, 2016 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"this I swear would not happen if this old man was saying this in front of me"

Hey pire, there was another person here who made the very same mistake you just made.

I had Randall send him my address...my real address. People who are all mouth and no action, like he was and like you undoubtedly are, suddenly find they have very important business somewhere else.

So pire, knock off the bullshiite. I would very happily tell you what I think of you, face to face...and of the leftist loon thug rioters you support with your nonsense.

Got it pire?


I suppose this doesn't count as a threat or intimidation, either.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 15, 2016 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Insults have been slung on both sides. It's not that I approve. I allow for a wider latitude, since politics can get heated, but there are limits--like in the thread Juni closed. Physical violence crosses the line, and it wasn't just one person guilty of that.

Yet jwhop just made another threat, and this thread is still open.

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Astro keen
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posted November 15, 2016 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, if you are saying that JWhop can continue his insults unchecked and anyone is welcome to leave, it shows that your political affiliations come before fair play. That much is clear.

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Ra
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posted November 15, 2016 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... silently tiptoes back into the shadows ...

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pire
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posted November 15, 2016 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not in the good book of randall unlile jwhop so i will not reply to the threats of jwhop. But i want to affirm that i am not scared one bit.


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LeeLoo2014
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posted November 15, 2016 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:

I had Randall send him my address...my real address. People who are all mouth and no action, like he was and like you undoubtedly are, suddenly find they have very important business somewhere else.


What could it be, Florida State Penitentiary?

Just kidding.

Now what? You are a brain dead American moron with a pygmy...brain?

***** grabber!

Take that!


How's this?

My point is, are we going to play the roles in PixieJane's video now? And do what politicians want, fight with each other?

Astro Keen is a beloved member of Lindaland, a wealth of kindness, generosity, spirituality, wit, knowledge and beauty. I am sorry for this incident, Astro Keen, sending much love to you! And so is Pire, and Teasel (whom you insulted the other day) and so are all of us here, Jwhop, that's why we are here together. What holds us together is beyond politics, that's the whole point, and I am sure we can discuss politics without ad hominem.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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Enneline
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posted November 15, 2016 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Randall,
is it really worth losing generous and popular members incl. mods?


@jwhop: you can grap my p*ssy. as you can see, she is bored, fat, fluffy and even partially shaved

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Randall
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posted November 15, 2016 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pire threatened him as well, but you don't see that? I've never seen so much distorted thinking here. I pride myself on seeing both sides of an issue. There was posturing by more than just Jwhop. Such myopic viewpoints. My mom is a liberal and a Libra. Where is the level-headedness here from the left? All I see is madness. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Give love a chance.

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posted November 15, 2016 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Insults have been slung on both sides. It's not that I approve. I allow for a wider latitude, since politics can get heated, but there are limits--like in the thread Juni closed. Physical violence crosses the line, and it wasn't just one person guilty of that.

What physical violence?? What are you talking about?

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posted November 15, 2016 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall: you too you donít get a basic point. Some people, like me, donít get upset that you are Republicans, not even that you voted for Trump but deeply annoyed about RACISM and muslim banning and so on. This doesnít make me a leftist. I already told you: I am not a leftist and nor I would support Hillary BUT I am a strong opponent of RACISM and DISCRIMINATION of any kind

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Randall
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posted November 15, 2016 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Yet jwhop just made another threat, and this thread is still open.


So did Pire. It went both ways. Closed, as per your wish.

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