posted November 28, 2016 05:09 AM            

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/toni-mo rrison-fear-of-losing-white-privilege-led-to-trumps-election_us_58330ee2e4b058ce7aac0964

It pays to read the comments as well. The whole article is in the New Yorker, link included.

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posted November 28, 2016 06:38 AM            

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posted November 28, 2016 07:25 AM            

My colleagues joke about how he's a cartoon character, even less real than Donald duck.

I'm so worry about how many people adhere to his misogigny, racist, sexist, twisted vision of 'greatness'

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, chère Flower Yes, Donald Trump as looks/personality/lifestyle embodies white privilege to the point of caricature, emblematic.

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posted November 28, 2016 10:13 AM            

I want the rest of America to get a full dose of Socialist whining, screeching and shrieking about "White Privilege", "Micro Aggressions", "Social Justice", "Economic Justice" and every other Socialist buzz word used in Socialist rants against America.

Be sure to keep puppy petting stations open at your institution of non-learning along with your crying rooms and mandate a "safety pin" for every teacher/professor.

As for Trump, the harder he worked...from age 11 to his usual 16 hour current workday, the more "privileged" he became.

I'd suggest you try it yourself but I have grave doubts you could even begin to keep up with the 70 year old Trump.

posted November 28, 2016 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
...and that's a shining example of what hard work gets you in this country.

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ok, so one of the basics of Socialists is being opponent to hard work?
If so, where do you get that from?

posted November 28, 2016 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
While Hillary was catering to her million dollar doners with $100K dinner plates, Trump was taking his message directly to the people (sometimes in as many as four states per day), and that's a shining example of what hard work gets you in this country.

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posted November 28, 2016 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I didn't say anything about Socialists. I'm saying it's not privilege that won Trump the election. It was hard work.

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you stated the statement right after jwhop wrote ""Work" is a cuss word in the dictionary of free loading Socialists."

posted November 28, 2016 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
apart from that. didn't you often call either Obama or Hillary Socialists?

also, didn't you call Obama a Marxist Messiah? thats why i was asking about your definition of Marxists and Socialists.

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posted November 28, 2016 12:48 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, chère Flower Yes, Donald Trump as looks/personality/lifestyle embodies white privilege to the point of caricature, emblematic.

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posted November 28, 2016 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Nobel and Pulitzer prize winner Toni Morrison explains Trump's win as the swansong of white privilege - a last attempt to maintain a "monochromatic" past in our diverse present/future and fear to lose fading white privilege.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/toni-mo rrison-fear-of-losing-white-privilege-led-to-trumps-election_us_58330ee2e4b058ce7aac0964

It pays to read the comments as well. The whole article is in the New Yorker, link included.

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posted November 28, 2016 03:38 PM            

The definition of white privilege, as with many terms, varies from source to source, but is generally distinguished from active bias or prejudice against non-white people.[14] The following is a partial list of definitions:

"White privilege is the ability for Whites to maintain an elevated status in society that masks racial inequality."
Andersen, M.; Taylor, H.; Logio, K. (2014). Sociology: The Essentials (8th ed.). Cengage Learning. p. 424. ISBN 978-1-285-96566-6.
"White privilege has been defined by David Wellman as a system of advantage based on race. It has been compared by Peggy McIntosh to an invisible, weightless knapsack of assets and resources that she was given because she was born White in her time and place in U.S. society. Paula Rothenberg defines White privilege as the other side of discrimination, meaning the opposite of discrimination."
Banks, J. (2012). Encyclopedia of Diversity in Education. Thousand Oaks, California: SAGE Publications. p. 2300. ISBN 978-1-4129-8152-1.
"White privilege, specifically, is an institutional set of unearned benefits granted to White people (Kendall, 2001, 2006; McIntosh, 1989; Sue, 2003). Sue (2003) defines White privilege as "unearned advantages and benefits" given to White persons based on a system that was "normed on the experiences, values, and perceptions" of White persons (p. 7). McIntosh (1989) characterizes White privilege as "an invisible package of unearned assets which I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was 'meant' to remain oblivious" (p. 10). She likens it to "an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools, and blank checks" (p. 10). Kendall (2006) describes White privilege as "an institutional, rather than personal, set of benefits granted to" (p. 63) people whose race resembles that of the people who are in power."
Dressel, J. L.; Kerr, S.; Steven, H. B. (2010). "Developing Competency with White Identity and Privilege". In Cornish; et al. Handbook of multicultural counseling competencies. Hoboken, N.J: John Wiley. ISBN 978-0-470-43746-9.
"McIntosh is adept at describing the daily advantage white people have based on the color of their skin. Wildman (2000) discusses the characteristics of the privileged by saying they "define the societal norm, often benefiting those in the privileged group. Second, privileged group members can rely on their privilege and avoid objecting to oppression" (p. 53). The result of this societal norm is that everyone is required to live by the attributes held by the privileged. In society white people define and determine the terms of success and failure; they are the norm. Thus, "achievements by members of the privileged group are viewed as meritorious and the result of individual effort, rather than as privileged" (p. 53)."
Lund, C. L. (2010). "The nature of white privilege in the teaching and training of adults". New Directions for Adult and Continuing Education. 2010 (125): 18. doi:10.1002/ace.359.
"Experts define White privilege as a combination of exclusive standards and opinions that are supported by Whites in a way that continually reinforces social distance between groups on the basis of power, access, advantage, majority status, control, choice, autonomy, authority, possessions, wealth, opportunity, materialistic acquisition, connection, access, preferential treatment, entitlement, and social standing (Hays & Chang, 2003; Manning & Baruth, 2009)."
Vang, C. T. (2010). An educational psychology of methods in multicultural education. New York: Peter Lang. pp. 36 and 37. ISBN 978-1-4331-0790-0.
"White privilege" refers to the myriad of social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race."
Delgado, Richard; Stefancic, Jean (2001). Critical Race Theory: An Introduction. New York and London: New York University Press. p. 78. ISBN 0-8147-1931-7.
"White privilege is a form of racism that both underlies and is distinct from institutional and overt racism. It underlies them in that both are predicated on preserving the privileges of white people (regardless of whether agents recognize this or not). But it is also distinct in terms of intentionality. It refers to the hegemonic structures, practices, and ideologies that reproduce whites' privileged status. In this scenario, whites do not necessarily intend to hurt people of color, but because they are unaware of their white-skin privilege, and because they accrue social and economic benefits by maintaining the status quo, they inevitably do."
Pulido, L. (2000). "Rethinking Environmental Racism: White Privilege and Urban Development in Southern California". Annals of the Association of American Geographers. 90: 15. doi:10.1111/0004-5608.00182.
Cheryl Harris describes whiteness as a form of property, which confers privileges on its holders. In "Whiteness as Property," Harris writes, "The wages of whiteness are available to all whites, regardless of class position — even to those whites who are without power, money, or influence. Whiteness, the characteristic that distinguishes them from blacks, serves as compensation even to those who lack material wealth. It is the relative political advantages extended to whites, rather than actual economic gains, that are crucial to white workers."
Cheryl, Harris (1995). "Whiteness as Property". In Crenshaw, Kimberlé. Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings that Formed the Movement. New York: The New Press. p. 286. ISBN 1-56584-271-5.

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posted November 28, 2016 04:18 PM            

I don't understand this though, how a woman can vote for a sexist man.

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
White male privilege, I should say.

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posted November 28, 2016 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
It's funny that this was their trademark insults for Obama throughout this entire election but they can't actually tell you the definition of socialism, Marxism or communism.

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yes, this is the most ridiculous political subforum i ever saw in my entire life. ok, i am not old and i haven't seen many yet but i can't imagine of any more weird and awkward forum:

1. Obama & Hillary and their supporters are Marxists, Marxist Messiahs, lefts, liberals and socialists and socialists fascists at the same time

2. the difference between the definitions is NOT known but used
-> talking about things you haven't a clue

3. Hitler was supposedly a socialist. Strange to claim that if you don't know the difference.
Also, every baby knows that communism consists of nationalization of the industry. This never happened in Nazi Germany...
also, very awkward that a false myth of Hitler is being accepted

4. Things are claimed without any foundation, even not if you ask for it-> no sources

5. Real European right wing and Neo Nazi propaganda is widely accepted, like claiming that only 5% of all refugees are Syrians but you would just need to check the Federal office of migration...last month more than 20% of all refugees were Syrians in Germany...

6. some stuff about the Nazis like alternative medicine and euthanasia (!!!!) are mentioned positively and of course accepted
-> just google Nazi Euthanasia and Josef Mengele

...etc. etc. etc.

posted November 29, 2016 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
yes, this is the most ridiculous political subforum i ever saw in my entire life. ok, i am not old and i haven't seen many yet but i can't imagine of any more weird and awkward forum:

1. Obama & Hillary and their supporters are Marxists, Marxist Messiahs, lefts, liberals and socialists and socialists fascists at the same time

2. the difference between the definitions is NOT known but used
-> talking about things you haven't a clue

3. Hitler was supposedly a socialist. Strange to claim that if you don't know the difference.
Also, every baby knows that communism consists of nationalization of the industry. This never happened in Nazi Germany...
also, very awkward that a false myth of Hitler is being accepted

4. Things are claimed without any foundation, even not if you ask for it-> no sources

5. Real European right wing and Neo Nazi propaganda is widely accepted, like claiming that only 5% of all refugees are Syrians but you would just need to check the Federal office of migration...last month more than 20% of all refugees were Syrians in Germany...

6. some stuff about the Nazis like alternative medicine and euthanasia (!!!!) are mentioned positively and of course accepted
-> just google Nazi Euthanasia and Josef Mengele

...etc. etc. etc.

Seems like a lot of very uneducated people enjoy writing on here...!!!!

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posted November 29, 2016 11:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Thank you Enneline, I'd like to see Jwhop try the alternative medicine that he sings praises about.

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It's hard to put yourself under ice water for 20 minutes if you are not going to committ suicide....it's also hard to sew your back to the back of another person...
I could post a lot of pics...but they are too heartbreakening....

this is again a false myth about the Nazis. The Nazis did NOT promote alternative medicine, not in the sense we would. They did want to destroy the Jewish influence in the circle of doctors since they were of the opinion that too many jews were doctors in Germany at that time and since they knew that the Jewish doctors would either emigrate or not allowed to work or being killed, they were FORCED to offer alternative medicine; also they did want to promote the National identity in promoting old Germanic (herbal) medicine. Some concentration camps even had a little garden full of herbs.
+ and that was the MAIN GOAL: they wanted to develop medicine to destroy "valueless" life, life of minor value: Jews, gipsies, disabled and handicapped people AND promote the Aryan genetic research (see the most notorious example Josef Mengele)

Actually they were no results of the "promotion" of Germanic medicine. They were some working groups but they didn't achieve anything + they had given up a few years before war broke out

posted December 01, 2016 12:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I can think of more than one white woman here who voted for Trump.

I don't understand this though, how a woman can vote for a sexist man.

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Sexist is only one of the problems here, Child has other meanings, so it seems, sorry for the disturbing image (and don't mind the parrots, they are having an intimate moment).

(with daughter Ivanka)

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posted December 01, 2016 01:31 PM            

That's Trump's daughter and there's nothing wrong with that pose.

All your problems stem from your smut stained shriveled intellects. But thanks for raising your hands and identifying yourselves.

One more time.

The most corrupt woman in America, Hillary The Corrupt...Lost.

Trump trounced you little corrupt icon, 306-232.

posted December 01, 2016 01:53 PM            

since you used Plural i guess you were also referring to me

you still didn't explain me the difference between Marxism, Marxist Messiah, left, Socialist, Socialist Fascists, liberals and Communism to me- in your own words. I am waiting

Also, where did you get that term "socialist fascist" from? One of your self-created terms? Or did you - as ususal- mix up things?!
What is the difference between a fascist and a socialist? Do you know that?

I know that Benito Mussolini allegedly transformed from a Socialist to a Fascist but a Socialist Fascist? I just know left wing Fascism.