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Catalina
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posted February 17, 2017 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
But i said nothing.. cause they're rapists, murderers and terrorists
(And I'm not an immigrant..tho my grandparents or parents were)


Who says terrorists are foreigners? Or brown skinned?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-donald-trump-remains-silent-white-men-terrorize-america-article-1.2975405

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jwhop
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posted February 17, 2017 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
Hahaha

Give the nonsense a rest.

This guy was arrested only YESTERDAY...as in Thursday. This is Friday.

You expect Trump to react instantaneously!

Let's see, Obama...and his sycophants are still calling the Muslim Terrorist Attack by Hassan at Fort Hood which killed 13 and injured 32..."Workplace Violence" and that happened in 2009.

You have no sense of perspective.

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iQ
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posted February 18, 2017 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ        Reply w/Quote
What is your perspective JW Hop? That you are ok with Timothy McVeigh for killing 100s of Americans just because he is White?
That it is ok for dozens of white gunmen to take out dozens in mall shootings, as if that is their privilege, and you will only focus on a couple of terror attacks by Immigrants to destabilize the Human Rights of tens of millions of American Citizens because they are not white or not Christian?

Do you condone the Ku Klux Klan? Are you not ashamed of the atrocities committed on African Americans? Muslims did not do that.

You were not like this for so many years, you were purely supporting Republican Conservatism in International Policy and their supply side Reagonomics against Democrat's economics which you considered to be socialist.

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jwhop
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posted February 18, 2017 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
"What is your perspective JW Hop? That you are ok with Timothy McVeigh for killing 100s of Americans just because he is White?"

Give the bullshiiite a rest IQ.

No one I know was "OK" with the McVeigh attack on the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City that killed almost 170 Americans.

We're also not "OK" with The Liar In Chief, Kommander Korruption's attack on the Waco compound of David Koresh which killed 85 Americans, many of them children.

You have some really out in left field ideas IQ...or perhaps you enjoy lying for some supposed rhetorical advantage.

Keep it up IQ and we'll have a nice long chat about the government and elitist class in India sanctioning the murders of citizens of India...and other problems within India.

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Catalina
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posted February 18, 2017 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
A white terrorist is an isolated incident. A brown one is justification for deportatuons and immigration bans. And yet the outcry when someone suggests checking for mental problems before selling guns.. perhaps this man should be deported to his land of origin, somewhere in Europe? cause you know he's not a true American if he can plan this!

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jwhop
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posted February 18, 2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
"perhaps this man should be deported to his land of origin, somewhere in Europe? cause you know he's not a true American if he can plan this!"

So, what do you actually know about "this man" other than his name and his photo?

Do you know he's a member of a white supremacist group?

Is he a far left lunatic or a far right fundamentalist radical?

Is he active in democrat or republican circles?

Is he a supposed Christian or a Muslim convert? Are you supposing that because he's white, he's not a Muslim? Not Serbian or Chechen.

The fact is, you don't really know a damned thing about this individual and assumptions won't cut the mustard.

You can save your tear-jerking antics for the tourists.

Deportation of illegal aliens...IS the state of the Law in the United States...right now and has been for many years.

Building a wall on the Southern Border IS the state of the Law in the United States...right now and has been for many years.

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Catalina
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posted February 20, 2017 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
I know he had plans to blow up mosques. I know people with green cards are not illegal. I know you don't see white terrorists as reason to berate white people..but when one woman gets shot in San Francisco you blame "sanctuary cities" and the lack of a wall.. which will keep out few of the"bad hombres" but cost the taxpayer billions.

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iQ
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posted February 21, 2017 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ        Reply w/Quote
<< Keep it up IQ and we'll have a nice long chat about the government and elitist class in India sanctioning the murders of citizens of India...and other problems within India. >>

We should have this discussion, because almost all of the murders are sanctioned by Right Wing Elite in India who are regularly funded by Hindu Republicans. I am very happy that you are aware of the genocides of minorities in India.

I am also satisfied with your acknowledgement that even White Christians like Timothy Mcveigh ad Jim Jones can be terrorists too, and that US Government Agents can also be terrorists [Waco for example].

Let there be rigorously thorough vetting, not a single Immigrant who has any link to any terror cell should ever enter the United States. But let there also be Stringent Laws to penalize those who cast aspersions on Muslim Americans or Muslim Immigrants without a shred of evidence that links them to a terror outfit. Muslim Americans who live the American Dream are the best bet to defeat radicals in the Middle East, for this shows that the American Way has given better chances for success. If Americans start behaving like Saudi Tyrants, then the Whole World loses.

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Catalina
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posted February 26, 2017 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Among those detained in our new improved immigration putsch

Mohammed Ali Jr
Former PM of Norway
Australian schoolteacher
An American Nasa engineer with Pakistani great grandparents

Who else? I can't keep up

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Catalina
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posted February 26, 2017 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Among those detained in our new improved immigration putsch

Mohammed Ali Jr
Former PM of Norway
Australian schoolteacher
An American Nasa engineer with Pakistani great grandparents

Who else? I can't keep up

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jwhop
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posted February 26, 2017 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
Give the nonsense a rest IQ. There is no
Republican party in India.

There are elitists who run the government and most institutions. Elitist who believe it's perfectly OK to murder, rape and deny rights to those who they consider unclean...and inferior.

Gee, sounds just like the far left loons of the democrat party. Certainly not the Republican party in the USA.

Here's the real question for you IQ.

Are you part of that elitist clique in India who believe you're somehow superior to the "untouchables". Are you part of the problem in India? Or, are you any part of the solution to the caste system in India?

Sounds to me like you have plenty to do at home...in India...unless you're part of the problem.

Another thing IQ.

The "untouchables" are in no way the only problem in India. Rational people would wonder why you insist on sticking your long, bony busybody nose in America's business while avoiding the many problems your own nation has created.

What's the answer IQ?

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iQ
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posted February 27, 2017 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ        Reply w/Quote
I will stick my long, bony, busybody Nose in each and every city in each and every country of the planet, USA included. This is not 19th Century where "Nationalism" was the Norm. This is now a Global Village. If I can warn an American about danger, I will. And similarly will accept support in India from every conscientious American.

My people in India are Victims of Right Wing, Elitist Politics of India. Hence, I am part of the solution. "Hindu Republicans" in America who funded Trump with tens of millions of dollars also fund the right wing political organizations in India, and these organizations overtly and covertly support Crony Capitalists who have been responsible for the death of millions of farmers, tribals, minorities etc.

If Trump can prevent terror funding from USA to India or Pakistan or Syria, that would be greta, I would support that move. But if he were to bestow favours on American Hindu Groups who intend to destroy Forests, Human Rights of Tribals etc in India, then I have to oppose him from wherever I am whether India or USA. Most of Clan are American Citizens by the way. I probably have more American Blood Relatives than you do [100+ at last count ], so yes, I am keenly interested in US Politics, problems, and solutions as much as in Middle East, India, Africa and Latin America.

It is not my fault if I use more than 10% of my Brain and can keep track of so much global data. I see what you see not.

You are a very Old Man, you have lived your life. But 60% of the World is Young, below 40. We cannot afford unchecked Greedy Capitalism, Devastating Wars, Arms Industries, Unregulated Chemicals, Monsanto type Corps etc to make the Planet a Zombie Planet a few decades from now.

If your leaders rein in the bad guys in USA, stop supporting dictators in middle East, stop supporting companies like Monsanto in Asia, then its all good, more democratic power to your leadership. Parties do not matter, the Karma of Individuals in the ruling class is more important.

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Catalina
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posted February 27, 2017 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
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Catalina
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posted February 27, 2017 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
The number of non ME/muslim people, many world class names for their achievements, who are being harrassed at Immigration grows daily. People with voices who are spreading the word that this is not a place to visit anymore.

Anyone want to hazard a guess how much the tourism/international business sectors mean to the economy?

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Catalina
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posted February 28, 2017 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Making America White Again

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/28/magazine/jeff-sessions-stephen-bannon-justice-department.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=https://m.facebook.com/

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jwhop
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posted February 28, 2017 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
Perhaps IQ, you should devote your energies to eliminating slavery in India. Oh, and also the runaway corruption in Indian society. Oh, and let's not forget the plight of the "untouchables" in India.

You know IQ...first cast the beam out of thine own eye...then you can see more clearly to direct Americans into the path of righteousness.

Until then IQ, get lost.

One more thing IQ. As for your use of more than 10% of your brain; what's 11% of nothing?

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Catalina
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posted March 02, 2017 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Way to "defend the right to say it" even tho you don't like what is said, jwhop. Or was that part of your stand up routine?

IQ had as much right as anyone to contribute to the conversations here. If you don't like.. your problem.

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Catalina
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posted March 02, 2017 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
So Crimes by immigrants are now officially more dastardly than crimes by Americans, and their victims govern special treatment . Meanwhile Native Americans are being investigated by the FBI, but cops will not be investigated for use of brutality.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/how-genocides-begin-internet-stunned-by-trump-plan-to-set-up-voice-program-targeting-immigrants/


Despite your pretense that no such thing is going on.

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Catalina
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posted March 02, 2017 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Is it just me or has the EDIT BUTTON died?

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Randall
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posted March 02, 2017 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
I'm tinkering with it.

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pire
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posted March 02, 2017 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire        Reply w/Quote
If the USA were denmark or belgium (size wise) the world would not get so interested in its politics, but considering the impact the USA have, have had, and will have, openly and covertly in change regimes across the world and in military and economic pressure on the institutions that organise the relations between nations, people of the world are logically interseted by the USA ´ s politics. Don't pretend to discover that

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pire
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posted March 02, 2017 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire        Reply w/Quote
Denmark or belgium go with the flow of the world, let's have the USA do that too , right , so nobody foreign will look into your politics

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pire
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posted March 02, 2017 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire        Reply w/Quote
Besides I can't wait that you go and discuss politics with IQ in tamul (right ?) and french politics with me in french jwhop. So much of your ideas would get lost in translation I think

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pire
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posted March 02, 2017 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire        Reply w/Quote
http://youtu.be/dH1SvGMY4Qs

An exemple on what diversity offers to those who welcome it :

An expanded undestanding

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